Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-06-07

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01:06 tardisx spelling nazi says in lib/Mojolicious/Guides/Cookbook.pod "Thats really everything" should be "That's really everything"
01:13 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious the bridge / under at $ self-> res-> headers that are ignored if the tampering?" (ja) --xerespm http://twitter.com/xerespm​/status/77905979408252930
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01:44 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious:: Plugin:: PoweredBy imitated Mojolicious:: Plugin:: Headers I could After creating a that the work of about plus post header kinda seems so in demand, bridge / under I'm likely made." (ja) --xerespm http://twitter.com/xerespm​/status/77913699775545344
01:53 perlrocks Twitter: "Oh, we could. bridge-> to come back to you in a bad $ r is not assigned. - Mojolicious to describe the bridge should be done before all the processing / Mojolicious http://j.mp/l4Bypy Reference" (ja) --xerespm http://twitter.com/xerespm​/status/77916093343203328
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05:33 GitHub83 mojo: master Sebastian Riedel * 637cfcb (8 files in 3 dirs): fixed many typos - http://bit.ly/k9HPD3
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05:33 sri tardisx: damn, i make that typo a lot :S
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06:00 tardisx sri: thats OK :-P
06:00 sri :)
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06:10 crab Mojolicious of Gugurugurupu
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08:26 crab :controller/:action placeholders in routes in non-trivial applications are very often a really bad idea
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08:49 sri very true
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09:05 sri oh, tons of retweets
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10:32 MisterHatt 08:06:24 <@crab> Mojolicious of Gugurugurupu
10:32 MisterHatt without actually checking the tweet, I believe he emant guguru
10:32 MisterHatt as in "google"
10:32 MisterHatt the japanese have a really weird phrase that translates literally as "google it with yahoo"
10:33 MisterHatt unrelated, sri, eta on raptor perl mugs?
10:33 MisterHatt need some merch to combat the ruby mugs at the office
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10:42 sri MisterHatt: only in the eu store
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10:42 sri they don't have mugs in the us store atm
10:43 sri http://kraih.spreadshirt.de/perl-5-ra​ptor-mug-A15375119/customize/color/1
10:43 MisterHatt ah
10:43 MisterHatt I'm in australia but :importing:
10:44 sri spreadshirt doesn't have that many products, but their print quality is amazing
10:44 MisterHatt I see
10:44 MisterHatt who does the money go to for it?
10:44 MisterHatt spreadshirt, or do you get some?
10:45 sri i get like 1 euro, only rounding up prices
10:45 MisterHatt ah
10:45 * MisterHatt buys anyway
10:45 purl rumour has it buys is good
10:45 MisterHatt wanted to support the devs a bit more :x
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10:47 sri appreciated but not necessary, i'd rather have more of my stuff out there :)
10:48 stephan48 sri: whats the prize for an shirt?
10:48 MisterHatt fair enough
10:48 sri stephan48: http://kraih.spreadshirt.de
10:49 MisterHatt in my first day of work i already ripped out their current batch scripts and replaced with a nice perl one using mojo::json, the response went soemthing like "it's a lot faster" to "holy shit you can do that in perl?" to "PERL HAS WEB FRaMEWORKS?!?!"
10:49 MisterHatt seems a bit of exposure was... unexpected
10:50 sri heh
10:50 sri i want a neon one... but they are always out of stock :(
10:51 MisterHatt can't order your own shirt? :O
10:51 sri ye :O
10:52 MisterHatt crazy
10:53 sri reminds me that i wanted to get a timbuk2 bag with the raptor
10:55 MisterHatt the raptor is pretty badass
10:55 MisterHatt I coughed on my coffee when I saw the raptor failure shirt
10:56 sri :D
10:56 sri had to use the lower quality print for that one (too many colors), but i just had to have one
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11:03 sri http://kraih.spreadshirt.de/perl-5-raptor-​bag-timbuk2-A16257893/customize/color/454 # think i'll get one of these :)
11:04 sri hmm, they also offer silver metal prints for bags, wonder how those look
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11:16 perlrocks Twitter: "use Mojolicious::Lite;<br>" --slyzhnyak http://twitter.com/slyzhnya​k/status/78057805696864256
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11:36 yko sri: looks like error callback https://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob​/master/lib/Mojo/UserAgent.pm#L463 being called each tick when you get/post something
11:36 yko is that intentional?
11:36 sri what?
11:38 yko i changed that line to '  $loop->on_read($id => sub { warn "\n\nError\n\n"; $self->_read(@_) });'
11:38 yko and when i call perl -Mojo -e 'g("http://mojolicio.us")' i see at least 3 errors
11:38 yko not a beautiful way to debug though
11:39 sri ok, now you make even less sense
11:39 sri you do realize the error callback finishes the transaction and calls the suer callback?
11:39 sri so if it was like you said nothing could work
11:40 stephan48 yko: you make the on read callback output "error" and then complain about errors?
11:40 sri yea, i don't get it
11:41 yko -_-
11:41 yko sorry
11:41 stephan48 yko: sry?
11:42 yko i think i need to go out walk some. my brain melts
11:44 yko stephan48,  for some reasons i thought IOLoop calls error callback together with read. just ignore me
11:46 MisterHatt dumb question but can someone remind me where you close a sub with ; and when you don't?
11:47 moritz MisterHatt: named subs without ;
11:48 MisterHatt ah, that makes sense
11:48 MisterHatt thanks
11:48 moritz and everything that takes a sub { ... } has an argument is just a statement
11:48 moritz so it needs a terminating ;
11:48 moritz in Perl 6 it's a bit easier: semicolon after }\n is always optional
11:52 stephan48 yko: glad that i could help :)
11:55 MisterHatt anyone know when the new oreilly book is coming out?
11:57 moritz which one?
11:57 MisterHatt perl ofc
11:58 * moritz didn't know that there was a single Perl book from O'Reilly
11:59 MisterHatt never heard of the camel book?
11:59 marty MisterHatt:  I think the next Perl book is due out in October of this year
11:59 moritz MisterHatt: I've read it, but there are other Perl books by O'Reilly
11:59 moritz MisterHatt: never heard of PBP, Learning Perl and all the others?
12:00 marty http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596004927/
12:01 MisterHatt dunno
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12:01 MisterHatt was curious as I wanted to learn a bit more about more generic module writing and whatnot
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12:02 MisterHatt and I really need to read some proper docs on syntax that are explained a bit more constructively than perldoc so I stop forgetting things
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12:05 moritz MisterHatt: http://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/perl/advprog/ has something on modules
12:05 MisterHatt ah cool, thanks
12:05 moritz also a bit dated, I'm afraid. But the examples will still work
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12:18 crab moo!
12:20 moritz .se
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12:57 perlrocks Twitter: "DOM manipulation in perl, HTML:: DOM, but difficult to use with Nao Akira. Mojo:: DOM is that I want to like jQuery. I immediately put out." (ja) --earlgreyx http://twitter.com/earlgrey​x/status/78083076634329088
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13:34 elb0w thank god for Mojo
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13:47 crab "I immediately put out" must be the best reaction to Mojo::DOM so far
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13:49 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious:: Lite immediately on Hello World! You tried. Http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Lite # yuruperl code here" (ja) --PerlCafe http://twitter.com/PerlCaf​e/status/78096273164599297
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15:50 perlrocks Twitter: "@powderpuffeve loving my sexy #mojolicious  #Guatemalan" --FollowLesly http://twitter.com/FollowLes​ly/status/78126658447609856
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16:50 sri ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!
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16:55 marty geeez sri, what are you talk.. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!
16:56 sri i don't know what... ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!
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21:17 xaka hello folks. is there any "stuff" which will be called when i do "use base ..."? like a "import" if i do "use <package".
21:29 sri xaka: see perldoc base
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21:32 xaka if you use "use base", it doesn't call "import"
21:32 sri asking the same question in multiple channels is not cool btw
21:33 xaka sri: perl community bigger ;)
21:33 sri no, you are wasting peoples time, it's rude
21:33 purl okay, sri.
21:37 sri http://drupal.org/irc/courtesy # was looking for some irc guidelines to link to and noticed drupal has really good ones
21:38 sri worth reading
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22:51 perlrocks Twitter: "Tweetylicious in "Azure Perl ♪ I tried to let the resident made a server script" Tweettylicious http://maniax.jp/installmaniax/5/content/1348 the "Mojolicious" written in the Web application" (ja) --PerlCafe http://twitter.com/PerlCaf​e/status/78232559762419712
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