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mateu |
what happened to perl ninja anyway? |
| 00:04 |
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* mateu |
laments the loss of a person who didn't automatically go defensive on "trolls" as can often be the case. |
| 00:05 |
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sri |
he doesn't like irc, but he has a blog you can troll |
| 00:06 |
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sri |
usually i don't mind playing with trolls, but atm i'm quite busy |
| 00:07 |
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* sri |
misses being bored |
| 00:10 |
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* anaio |
nice mojocast |
| 00:12 |
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mateu |
sri: usually I don't mind playing with trippers, but you're a special one ;) |
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marty |
I have a need to maintain the order of URI params. Does mojo have a built in function or do I just need to split the string? |
| 00:21 |
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marty |
I'm using $self->req->params->to_hash but, of course the has key order is unpredictable. |
| 00:21 |
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sri |
order is automatically maintained internally |
| 00:21 |
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marty |
s/has/hash/ |
| 00:21 |
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marty |
really? |
| 00:21 |
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* marty |
looking closer |
| 00:22 |
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sri |
just don't use to_hash |
| 00:23 |
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marty |
Ahhh, ok, I get it. Thank you, sri. I appreciate the help. |
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xantus[] |
"there are too many releases", "those damn kids won't stay off my lawn!", "who pooped my pants?" |
| 02:16 |
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tempire |
ok |
| 02:17 |
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tempire |
next mojocast: Wildcard, default, and restrictive placeholders. header conditions and http methods. |
| 02:17 |
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tempire |
that's the plan |
| 02:18 |
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tempire |
I was really encouraged by someone saying they were new to perl and #1 was good fo rthem. |
| 02:18 |
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tempire |
new perls! |
| 02:21 |
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xantus[] |
tempire++ |
| 02:21 |
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tempire |
:) |
| 02:24 |
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mateu |
how might one set this type of header with mojo sugar? |
| 02:24 |
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mateu |
http://paste.scsys.co.uk/119569 |
| 02:32 |
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| 02:34 |
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mateu |
me wants to serve up .epub docs generated on the fly |
| 02:35 |
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mateu |
correct that, I want to server up epub docs with Mojo like I'm doing with Web::Simple |
| 02:36 |
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tempire |
$self->res->headers gives you access to Mojo::Header of the response |
| 02:36 |
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mateu |
tempire: thanks. I'm guessing if I call that with the write incantation before render I can get what I seek. |
| 02:36 |
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mateu |
right* |
| 02:37 |
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tempire |
yes |
| 02:37 |
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mateu |
is a data render then? |
| 02:37 |
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tempire |
not sure what you mean |
| 02:37 |
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mateu |
render( data => ... ) veruse render(text => ...) |
| 02:41 |
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tempire |
still not sure what you mean |
| 02:41 |
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tempire |
oooh, sketch addons |
| 02:41 |
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tempire |
neat |
| 02:42 |
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tempire |
well, maybe not so neat. but good execution of making them available and easy to install |
| 02:42 |
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* mateu |
finds that ->response doesnt' exist |
| 02:42 |
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mateu |
yes ->res does. |
| 02:43 |
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crab |
sketch addons to what? |
| 02:46 |
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| 02:46 |
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tempire |
sketch, the vector graphics program |
| 02:47 |
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crab |
oh. |
| 02:47 |
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mateu |
tempire: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/119571 |
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mateu |
that works with data => $output (last line), but not text => $output |
| 02:48 |
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crab |
mateu: $self->res->headers->content_type(...); ...->content_disposition(...) |
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mateu |
crab: thanks for the shorter alternative. Can one just pass a hashref of headers? |
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mateu |
or arrayef for that matter (with even number of entries) |
| 02:50 |
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crab |
not that i know of. |
| 02:51 |
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mateu |
ok, thanks |
| 02:53 |
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* mateu |
pimps his Mojo app: https://github.com/mateu/Mojit[…]aster/app/mojo.pl |
| 02:58 |
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crab |
what does it do? |
| 03:00 |
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mateu |
things to your ... uh I mean it is a sort of "web notes" system. |
| 03:02 |
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mateu |
features: wiki, POD and raw HTML editing support; edit source and (near) real-time view. assign documents to an ordered collection; navigate, merge, publicize and epub collections |
| 03:03 |
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mateu |
for example: http://missoula.org/note/publi[…]5d668d75c41000000 |
| 03:07 |
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crab |
nice. |
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| 03:22 |
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mateu |
crab: thanks. If one slaps a /epub in the collection URL above they can get an epub version. You and tempire just helped me implement that route for the Mojolicious::Lite version of Mojito, thanks you guys. |
| 03:23 |
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* mateu |
finds calibre pretty nice for epub docs |
| 03:55 |
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tempire |
it's a great program |
| 03:55 |
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tempire |
except for how horribly ugly it is |
| 04:03 |
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mateu |
tempire: I guess I'm glad I haven't looked at the innards yet :P |
| 04:12 |
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* mateu |
notices the big tar file is mostly due to translations |
| 04:13 |
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mateu |
hmm.. translation list is impressive |
| 04:40 |
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garu |
sri++ # case sensitivity section |
| 04:40 |
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garu |
sri: I like it, but I think it'd be clearer if the examples showed what would work and what would fail |
| 04:40 |
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garu |
let me spawn a quick example |
| 04:52 |
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garu |
https://gist.github.com/1066587 |
| 04:52 |
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garu |
sri: ^^ something like that (but not necessarily that :) |
| 04:54 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@ Zumipon @ server where it can also be used in so if you just upload okmton80 Mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88470864592502785 |
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xantus[] |
.o/ |
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| 06:25 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "It is a nice whiff of ruby framework mojolicious." (ja) --sowawa http://twitter.com/sowawa/stat[…]88493642771202048 |
| 06:25 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "I just do not burn and my eyes and monja What I always look Makutsu mojolicious." (ja) --sowawa http://twitter.com/sowawa/stat[…]88493732839694336 |
| 06:26 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "... This is sick! RT @ sowawa: that I not only me but my eyes and monja much as I look Makutsu What mojolicious." (ja) --ukayare http://twitter.com/ukayare/sta[…]88494010800414720 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "/ Mojolicious reference to describe the submit button - http://t.co/tZFSqcs Introduction to Perl with sample code # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88500774707011584 |
| 06:54 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Write submit button / Mojolicious Reference http://t.co/tZFSqcs # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88500944077205504 |
| 06:55 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious:: Guides:: Cookbook - GitHub http://htn.to/5vage8" (ja) --memememomo http://twitter.com/memememomo/[…]88501262458437632 |
| 07:00 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "mojolicious:: lite - super convenient framework. Now under development website - a real pleasure! ))" (ru) --F_ili_n http://twitter.com/F_ili_n/sta[…]88502561983823872 |
| 07:00 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "/ Mojolicious reference that describes a text field - http://t.co/RqVIdYW Introduction to Perl with sample code # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88502616581083136 |
| 07:01 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Wrtie text field / Mojolicious Referece http://t.co/RqVIdYW # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88502790841835521 |
| 07:06 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "/ Mojolicious reference to describe the text area - http://t.co/K5XNhsw Introduction to Perl with sample code # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88504144939319296 |
| 07:07 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Write text area / Mojolicious Reference http://t.co/K5XNhsw # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88504311516106752 |
| 07:10 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Perl's recent Mojolicious: I'm watching with the Lite, feels like and easy to use Flask of Python. In their going to be a definitive edition of WAF on Perl." (ja) --nyarla http://twitter.com/nyarla/stat[…]88505136254697472 |
| 07:10 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Http://t.co/Ckj12Ud finished writing the part of the Tag Helper Mojolicious Reference # perl # mojolicious" (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]88505191770488832 |
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* crab |
boggles at perlcodesample |
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marcus |
I am so going to miss all the boggling the google translate goes away. |
| 07:53 |
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crab |
it's not the translation, in this case. |
| 07:55 |
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crab |
perlcodesample is systematically documenting what looks like every mojo tag helper with examples. |
| 07:56 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "perlcodesample: / Mojolicious reference to describe the submit button http://bit.ly/r8uJQ2" (ja) --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironman[…]88516660935405569 |
| 07:56 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "perlcodesample: / Mojolicious reference to describe the text field http://bit.ly/p6IwB4" (ja) --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironman[…]88516663095468032 |
| 07:56 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "perlcodesample: / Mojolicious http://bit.ly/q5TvxI reference to describe the text area" (ja) --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironman[…]88516664177598464 |
| 08:03 |
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xantus[] |
ugh, pointless? |
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crab |
xantus; well, i think it's a bit excessive in separate blog posts |
| 08:12 |
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crab |
but it's not a bad idea. there are many questions about how to use tag helpers. |
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mikegrb |
is there any documentation on using hypnotoad with ssl and specifying the certs? |
| 11:05 |
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crab |
i don't know |
| 11:06 |
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crab |
but i would recommend against it, because of hard-to-track flakiness in IO::Socket::SSL. i run hypnotoad behind nginx and let the latter handle ssl for me. |
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crab |
if that's an option for you (substitute apache+mod_ssl or anything equivalent for nginx), it would be much nicer. |
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sri |
tempire: sounds good |
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mikegrb |
crab: okay, but at that point, why hypnotoad, wouldn't fastcgi or some such be cleaner? |
| 11:16 |
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sri |
garu: i'm really not a fan of documenting what would fail :S |
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GitHub77 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/qRzG2R |
| 11:23 |
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GitHub77 |
[mojo/master] added --listen example for https with custom cert and key - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
mikegrb: that should help in the future |
| 11:23 |
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mikegrb |
<3 |
| 11:24 |
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crab |
mikegrb: fastcgi is horrible, and most of the adapters suck |
| 11:24 |
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mikegrb |
ahh |
| 11:24 |
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crab |
using http is vastly nicer. |
| 11:25 |
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crab |
in theory you might save some ms by using fastcgi, but since the fastcgi adapters usually don't implement the full fastcgi spec including async/pipelined requests, it doesn't make any difference. |
| 11:26 |
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crab |
and whatever extra time it takes to transfer http requests is just noise compared to database accesses anyway. |
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mikegrb |
make sense |
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GitHub197 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/pyglCZ |
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GitHub197 |
[mojo/master] better listen examples - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
that place is better though |
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sri |
and i agree with crab on fastcgi |
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sri |
tempire: maybe discussing helpers before conditions might be a good idea |
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sri |
but i guess you want to wrap up basic routing with this one |
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sri |
makes sense too |
| 13:33 |
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sri |
better ignore me and do your thing :) |
| 13:33 |
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elb0w |
sri you see this xoria theme? |
| 13:33 |
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elb0w |
pretty nice |
| 13:33 |
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sri |
nope, link? |
| 13:34 |
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elb0w |
http://www.vim.org/scripts/scr[…]hp?script_id=2140 |
| 13:37 |
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elb0w |
argh i cant find a theme i like right now |
| 13:37 |
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elb0w |
so obnoxious |
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sri |
not bad |
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* sri |
sticks with twilight though |
| 13:45 |
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elb0w |
yeah i dunno why Im so hellbent on changing it right now |
| 13:46 |
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sri |
i sometimes switch to monokai when i need a little change |
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elb0w |
http://www.vim.org/scripts/scr[…]hp?script_id=2776 |
| 13:46 |
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elb0w |
lol |
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sri |
http://www.monokai.nl/blog/200[…]mate-color-theme/ |
| 13:47 |
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elb0w |
yeah I use that sometimes |
| 13:47 |
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elb0w |
too many colors on perl though |
| 13:48 |
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sri |
but much more importantly... do we get lion today? |
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elb0w |
https://gist.github.com/1067260 |
| 13:49 |
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elb0w |
not sure |
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elb0w |
scared to update due to all my pirated shit |
| 13:50 |
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elb0w |
haha |
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sri |
https://gist.github.com/1047738 # my twilight port |
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elb0w |
yeah I have it in my repo |
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elb0w |
haha |
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elb0w |
https://github.com/gtsafas/Vim[…]rs/kraihlight.vim |
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sri |
wonder where the more pastel one went |
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sri |
the one tempire used in the screencast |
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sri |
in case that is mine... i've not seen it for so long i barely remember :S |
| 13:53 |
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elb0w |
you gave me that like last month |
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elb0w |
lol |
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sri |
that's the new one |
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sri |
https://gist.github.com/918201 # this could be it |
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elb0w |
linkin this mustang theme |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious Mojocasts: http://mojocasts.com/ <- Want more :)" --freekey http://twitter.com/freekey/sta[…]88618355665285122 |
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* sri |
wonders if xantus made progress with the ev backend |
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elb0w |
did you submit mojocasts to HN? |
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sri |
yes, but the timing was awful |
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elb0w |
do it again |
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elb0w |
ill get my friends to upvote |
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elb0w |
what is morbo? |
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purl |
i guess morbo is the new, reloading development server for mojolicious |
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elb0w |
got rid of hypno? |
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sri |
nono |
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sri |
morbo = dev, hypnotoad = production |
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elb0w |
ah ok |
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elb0w |
what does daemon run it as? |
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sri |
added it because --reload sucked |
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elb0w |
oh cool |
| 14:46 |
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elb0w |
I see whaat you did there |
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sri |
morbo is a real restarter, after every change you get a fresh process |
| 14:46 |
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elb0w |
yeah thats awesome |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "+1 RT @freekey: Mojolicious Mojocasts: http://j.mp/r8wJgi <- Want more :)" --miquelruiz http://twitter.com/miquelruiz/[…]88620157882212352 |
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elb0w |
wish there were more perl products like mojo |
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elb0w |
I dont get how HN works |
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elb0w |
how do some of these get to the top with like no votes |
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sri |
quite sure they are curated |
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sri |
and most get on the radar based on voting spikes |
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elb0w |
must be |
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sri |
usually on the first half of the new page |
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sri |
that's my observation at least |
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elb0w |
I like this theme, http://elbowrage.com/sc/mustang.png |
| 15:14 |
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elb0w |
very clean |
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sri |
too green |
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elb0w |
GREEN WITH ENVY |
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elb0w |
purl: amirite? |
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purl |
elb0w: i haven't a clue |
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elb0w |
:( |
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tempire |
sri: I thought about doing helpers, but helpers are an uber powerful thing. I'm going to wrap up basics and then do one on helpers, which will lead into plugins and authentication. |
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sri |
tempire: makes sense |
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purl |
makes sense is http://xrl.us/bjq3kq |
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tempire |
maybe the one on helpers will be a good one to submit to hackernews again. Then we can coordinate an upvote spike. |
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* tempire |
iz hackin ur mediaz |
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sri |
all should be submitted, to improve the odds :) |
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tempire |
you don't think it would be too much? |
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sri |
you also need a bit of luck |
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sri |
not sure actually, i've not done a screencast series yet ;p |
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xaka |
sri: is there any change to add "watch" to ioloop like a for iowatcher? |
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xaka |
very useful stuff especially in a tests |
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sri |
xaka: why? |
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xaka |
for the same reason why it's in a iowatcher |
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tempire |
I imagine that if railscasts submitted *every* episode to hackernews, people would stop caring and no longer click. |
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sri |
xaka: $ioloop->iowatcher->watch |
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tempire |
though maybe that's because railscasts are really popular, and it's just an accepted thing now. |
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sri |
it's one and the same |
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sri |
ioloop *is* iowatcher now |
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xaka |
oh, k |
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sri |
tempire: i have no idea how railscasts started |
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tempire |
I'm just speaking theoretically - to be sure, they started in a different era |
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tempire |
5 years ago! |
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sri |
generally i tend towards Perl needs to be more visible though, and all publicity is good publicity |
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sri |
well, i will for sure submit every single one to reddit if you don't do it ;p |
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tempire |
I'm not a reddit user, so that's on you. |
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elb0w |
yeah I agree, I think every module on cpan needs a video |
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elb0w |
sad how perl is phasing out in startups |
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* tempire |
christens sri as the official mojocast reddit product marketer |
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elb0w |
all python/ruby/php ERLANG |
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* tempire |
sprinkles glitter |
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elb0w |
tired of erlang |
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sri |
tempire: not such a smart decision actually, i'm rather unpopular on reddit |
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tempire |
lulz |
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tempire |
you're not popular anywhere. I still love you :) |
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sri |
\o/ |
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* sri |
hugs tempire |
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* sri |
cries a little |
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sri |
reddit is special though |
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tempire |
reddit makes my soul hurt |
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tempire |
the bulk of the comments make me wonder at the usefulness of humanity |
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sri |
haha |
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sri |
that's reddit |
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sri |
best to play an underdog on reddit |
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tempire |
hmm |
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tempire |
I do know a reddit user that rarely posts anything |
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tempire |
I could get him to do it |
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sri |
or you just create an alter ego and post yourself *cough* |
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tempire |
ugh |
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diegok |
tempire++ your voice sounds really nice/pro on the video. |
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sri |
can you believe he recorded it with the built in macbook mic? |
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* tempire |
hugs diegok |
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tempire |
Apple: making amateurs seem competent since 1998 |
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* sri |
just noticed he doesn't even know where the mic actually is on his macbook |
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tempire |
I can't find it on the new one. The docs say it's 'under the left speaker grill' |
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diegok |
tempire: just read the reddit comments and I can't disagree more with the one that criticizes the initial mixing. I loved it... way too newbie oriented for me, but I've recomended to a lot of rails friends! |
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tempire |
maybe it's actually *underneath* the aluminum |
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sri |
the 13" has some tiny holes near the display, maybe it's there |
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diegok |
tempire: it's on the left side just over the esc key |
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diegok |
^ those |
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tempire |
there's no holes on the 2011 15" |
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diegok |
hm.. mine is 2011 13'' |
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diegok |
sri: any plans on giving mojo::ua + mojo::dom form objects some method to fill & submit? |
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sri |
no plans |
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purl |
rumour has it no plans is ok with us |
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sri |
sounds more like a meta project combining the two |
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sri |
then again we now have the Mojo::Transactor abstraction |
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sri |
maybe if it fits in there... |
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diegok |
sri: yup, slowly I'm liking that idea. Now using this o several research scripts: http://pastebin.com/BQNVepjX |
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diegok |
I was thinking on something like: my $tx = $dom->at('form#id')->submit({ name => 'value', }) or $form->set( name => 'value' )->set( locale => 'es' )->submit |
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elb0w |
sri: do a websocket cast imo |
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diegok |
I'll check M:Transactor to pick ideas. |
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sri |
diegok: sounds more like a Mojo::Mechanize :) |
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diegok |
sri: yes! |
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diegok |
sri: I'm probably very used to mech :) |
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diegok |
sri: but a Mojo::Mechanize would be like a mech agent with tabs (in async mode) :-) |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious Mojocasts http://htn.to/s6tsu8" (ja) --jamadam http://twitter.com/jamadam/sta[…]88638132504891392 |
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diegok |
I just love too much Mojo::Dom :) |
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sri |
oooh |
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sri |
a good comment on reddit |
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sri |
we should be recommending 5.12 now |
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sri |
since 5.10 is not supported since 5.14 either |
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tempire |
yeah, my wording was unclear |
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GitHub48 |
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GitHub48 |
[mojo/master] recommend Perl 5.12+ - Sebastian Riedel |
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elb0w |
link to reddit? |
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sri |
http://www.reddit.com/r/perl/c[…]_fun_with_clouds/ |
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elb0w |
funny |
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elb0w |
python has updates from hours ago |
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elb0w |
perl is like 2 days |
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elb0w |
3 days |
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elb0w |
haha |
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sri |
python is huge on reddit |
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sri |
after all reddit is built with python |
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elb0w |
yeah, so tempting to go full python |
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elb0w |
working in finance I can pretty much stay in perl |
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elb0w |
still pretty strong here |
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elb0w |
a lot of legacy |
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sri |
python is also quite boring |
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purl |
okay, sri. |
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elb0w |
hows MojoX::Redis ? |
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* sri |
pats purl |
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* purl |
stabs |
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sri |
i like my main language to enable my creativity, not to suppress it |
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tempire |
screw python |
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tempire |
go lisp |
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tempire |
perl is too mainstream |
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elb0w |
f that |
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elb0w |
haskell |
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tempire |
haskell is a poser |
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sri |
too many academics |
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tempire |
lisp is the one true language |
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tempire |
ALL HAIL MCCARTHY |
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elb0w |
I started doing it |
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elb0w |
then was like oh, I hate math |
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elb0w |
why am I learning this |
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elb0w |
haha |
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sri |
Scala has this Perl6 feel |
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tempire |
math!? |
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purl |
-1 |
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tempire |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious Mojocasts http://bit.ly/oXhtwc" (ja) --wPerlnews http://twitter.com/wPerlnews/s[…]88652442140549122 |
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sri |
fake! |
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elb0w |
lol |
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sri |
i can tell by the pixels |
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elb0w |
haha miss vermonts the best |
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elb0w |
just so angry |
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elb0w |
what is it mobo? |
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tempire |
morbo? |
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purl |
morbo is the new, reloading development server for mojolicious |
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tempire |
purl++ |
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elb0w |
oh hmm, thought I was up to date |
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elb0w |
bout to set a cron to just update mojo rate u guys go |
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sri |
should slow down a bit now |
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sri |
since i'll be spending more time on the mongodb driver |
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elb0w |
if I want to share something accross all the code what do I use again the stash? |
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elb0w |
nvm |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Author Mojo slowly moved from the "short and perl 5.8.8" to "recommend Perl 5.12 +". Looks hankering for 5.14ogo features ..." (ru) --gosha_bugov http://twitter.com/gosha_bugov[…]88657641278148608 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "We are recommending #perl 5.12+ for #mojolicious now, since 5.10 is no longer getting updated by the community. http://t.co/Za0rLNO" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/88659574961348608 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Recommended changes to the above mojolicious Perl 5.12: kraih / mojo - GitHub http://bit.ly/o7Joeg" (ja) --deathgoraku http://twitter.com/deathgoraku[…]88660266568515585 |
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tempire |
+1, fb like, tweet button |
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tempire |
is there anything else people expect these days? |
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elb0w |
deal sites? |
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mikegrb |
is the source for failraptor.png available? I'd love to make a derivative for our internal mojo app |
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sri |
mikegrb: https://github.com/kraih/perl-raptor |
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elb0w |
How do I execute a HSET with MojoX::Redis ? |
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elb0w |
mail <systemChrome>none</systemChrome> |
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elb0w |
whoops |
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elb0w |
ugh |
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tempire |
hot deployment with hypnotoad is really awesome |
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tempire |
it just works |
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tempire |
sri: what's stopping you from making a hypnotoad appname reload command? |
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sri |
nothing i guess |
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sri |
after loading the configuration we would know the pid file |
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sri |
in fact it would be more secure since it makes sure that the application doesn't crash |
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sri |
no restart attempt if it doesn't load |
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sri |
what would the command be? |
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elb0w |
if I am storing a JSON strong in redis and pull it out with the intentions of printing it on Mojo, is there any reason to decode it then render it as json or can I just render it as text? |
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sri |
hypnotoad --hot myapp.pl |
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elb0w |
json string* |
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sri |
never render bytes as text |
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sri |
see documentation for render_text |
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tempire |
"hypnotoad appname reload" |
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sri |
needs to e a flag |
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sri |
*+b |
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tempire |
hypnotoad appname -r ? |
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sri |
it's like starting the app but allowing it to hot restart if possible |
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tempire |
ah |
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sri |
"start this and if possible with zero downtime" |
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tempire |
would it hurt to make that the default behavior? |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
interesting thought |
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tempire |
and you could make a "hypnotoad appname -s" for just reporting the status |
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sri |
we can kill 0 to check if the old process is still alive |
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metaperl |
in /join #moose |
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* sri |
glues antlers to his head |
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tempire |
haz sri => (isa => 'Robot'); |
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sri |
tempire++ |
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sri |
really good idea |
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sri |
it's about 5 lines of code for automatic hot deployment if possible |
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sri |
$ hypnotoad hello.pl |
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sri |
Initiating hot deployment for Hypnotoad server 31841. |
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sri |
if its not running a normal startup will go through |
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sri |
pid in message yes or no? |
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tempire |
yes |
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tempire |
I also suggest an ascii rendering of the hypnotoad if the -a switch is provided |
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GitHub134 |
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GitHub134 |
[mojo/master] made hot deployment with Hypnotoad even easier - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
tempire: please test |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "YAPP # 8: World News Perl for June http://j.mp/pUW3Iw # perl # yapp # perl6 # git # github # phenona # activestate # cpan # ubic # dropbox # Mojolicious" (ru) --yapp_ru http://twitter.com/yapp_ru/sta[…]88693109180997632 |
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sri |
gonna rewrite the hypnotoad tests while i'm at it anyway :) |
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mikegrb |
sri: http://thegrebs.com/~michael/s[…]/hungryraptor.png <3 |
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sri |
lol |
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sri |
what have you done with his teeth? :O |
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mikegrb |
yeah I didn't see your link to the repo in time |
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mikegrb |
that's the failraptor.png |
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mikegrb |
he's displayed on the same blue though so looks okay |
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mikegrb |
will remake the image from the svg when I get some toits |
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tempire |
linode broke the raptor's teeth |
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mikegrb |
ja |
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tempire |
works like a charm |
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tempire |
this is awesome |
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tempire |
small thing, but great stride in usability |
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[mojo/master] new Hypnotoad tests - Sebastian Riedel |
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tempire |
anyone know the status of the parrot project? |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Hot deployment with #mojolicious and hypnotoad just got even easier. :) http://t.co/ElXncLO #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/88704773435564032 |
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sri |
tempire: my bet would be on "currently being rewritten from scratch" |
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sri |
that's pretty much always true for perl6 projects |
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tempire |
it seems PIR is supported, and the embedded API |
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tempire |
which I presume to mean don't mess with psdm |
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tempire |
*pasm |
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bpaluch |
silly question: if I need to access the body of a http POST, how do I do that with with mojlicious lite? I tried $self->content to no avail? |
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bpaluch |
and if there is an easier way of dealing with json bodys, please let me know. |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/Message#body |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/Message#json |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Lite#HTTP # and that one should have led you to the two above |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]cious/Lite#Routes # or this one |
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bpaluch |
got it |
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bpaluch |
so basically $self->res->json should give me the object I'm looking for |
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sri |
req not res |
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bpaluch |
I was missing where the Message object was in lite |
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bpaluch |
ah right |
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bpaluch |
thanks! |
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amf |
i have a plugin (before_render) that i'm stashing data in, but when it gets to my controller the stash does not contain the data. is there a better way to accomplish this? |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Funny, Michael Schilli, the author of the last #mojolicious article is also the author of the #perl book i started programming with. :)" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/88727276669255681 |
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sri |
amf: first of all, why are you using before_render? |
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amf |
i need to alter some of the data before it gets sent off to different controllers |
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amf |
this seemed like the right way to do it (instead of having a common module that each controller would call one of its functions) |
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sri |
it's very wrong, that's why i'm interested in how you made that conclusion |
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sri |
did you read the lite tutorial? |
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amf |
yes. i may have thought that stash meant persistent data, but that is not the case |
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sri |
you might want to reread the lite tutorial |
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sri |
it should have all the information you need |
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amf |
and my thinking was "if you can save/alter header data, why cant you do that with arbitrary data" |
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sri |
i'm saying that because you've misunderstood a few fundamental concepts |
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sri |
before_render is a very experimental plugin hook for very advanced mojolicious extensions |
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sri |
what you want is prolly just "under" |
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amf |
i actually wasnt 100% sure what that was |
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sri |
don't use hooks unless you are absolutely certain it is the right thing to do |
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amf |
but the lite guide sheds light on it |
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sri |
their main use case are extensions to mojolicious |
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amf |
sri: moved all the common plugin code into the controller. things are working much better now. thanks for the help. even more thanks for such an awesome framework. youve saved me lots of frustration and unnecessary work :) |
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sri |
glad you like it :) |
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[mojo/master] added --stop option to Hypnotoad - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
it's in line with --test |
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tempire |
sweet |
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rhaen |
hep! |
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rhaen |
goot morning. |
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rhaen |
err good morning. |
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sri |
thought about "hypnotoad myapp.pl stop/test" but since we don't have start/restart... |
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sri |
o/ |
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rhaen |
Any suggestions for a webload testing tool - (opensource)? |
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rhaen |
or should I try to build a testsuite based on Mojo::UserAgent? |
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sri |
many professionals like httperf |
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rhaen |
really? still httperf? |
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tempire |
are the hypnotoad tests supposed to take a long time? |
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sri |
simple minded folks still use ab |
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sri |
tempire: around 10 seconds yes |
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rhaen |
sri: and jmeter for user interaction simulations? |
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tempire |
been sitting for 20+ seconds |
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sri |
then something might have crashed |
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sri |
and you'll end up with zombie processes |
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sri |
better tests welcome, but i can't really think of anything |
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sri |
TEST_HYPNOTOAD=1 prove -l -v t/mojo/hypnotoad.t |
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sri |
that one takes 10 seconds here |
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tempire |
it's the HARNESS_OPTIONS=j5 that kills it during a make test |
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tempire |
the switches itself works like a charm |
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tempire |
new features tested on mojocasts.com! |
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sri |
actually, it works fine with j5 here |
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tempire |
with make test or prove? |
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tempire |
prove works ok for me with j5 |
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tempire |
make test does not |
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sri |
make test |
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purl |
make test is, like, chugging along fine in OpenBSD |
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sri |
damn, found a bug |
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