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sri |
controller needs to be lower case |
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sri |
and that namespace looks like it is global |
| 00:02 |
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sri |
$r->namespace(…) once in your app should look much better |
| 00:04 |
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sri |
the namespace default value is used very rarely |
| 00:04 |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]s_28_namespace_29 |
| 00:04 |
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sri |
last part |
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purl |
somebody said last part was the story of ascii's life :) |
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sri |
in fact, even writing controller and action has become very rare |
| 00:06 |
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sri |
since there's the 'foo#bar' short form |
| 00:06 |
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alnewkirk-hiring |
which i do take advantage of but had some difficulty |
| 00:06 |
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sri |
but that's all explained earlier in the guide |
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alnewkirk-hiring |
i'll paste my App.pm code shortly and show you what I have |
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mspo |
where is query documented? <%= link_to url_for->query(foo => $foo) => begin %>Retry<% end %> |
| 01:46 |
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mspo |
I need to generate a link with my app's controller path |
| 01:57 |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/URL |
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sri |
alnewkirk-hiring: i would very much appreciate it if you didn't criticize documentation before reading it in the future |
| 02:27 |
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alnewkirk-hiring |
huh? |
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alnewkirk-hiring is now known as alnewkirk |
| 02:27 |
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sri |
as shown above, every single one of your points is covered already |
| 02:28 |
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alnewkirk |
sri, point taken |
| 02:28 |
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sri |
i'm saying that because you've criticized routes before |
| 02:29 |
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alnewkirk |
in the future I will read the documentation thoroughly first |
| 02:29 |
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sri |
take your time, grok the concepts, then we can discuss details |
| 02:30 |
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alnewkirk |
agreed, since I plan on using Mojolicious as my WAF of-choice, I am planning to grok the entire documentation very soon |
| 02:36 |
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sri |
http://twitpic.com/5xs1vy # haha, so true |
| 02:39 |
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alnewkirk |
^ nice lol |
| 02:54 |
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MisterHatt |
I think I've seen that image do the rounds on a dozen irc networks in the last hour, it totally is true tho |
| 02:55 |
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MisterHatt |
actually my current office isnt bad, our managers are all ex-devs/admins |
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will |
I'm pulling from a database, one of the columns has a <em>little bit</em> of markup in it, which I'd like to pass through to the screen, mojo is doing the appropriate thing, encoding it.. is there any way to disable this for a particular template/route? |
| 03:23 |
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sri |
will: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]ing#Embedded_Perl |
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will |
much appreciated |
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crab |
hmm, narwhalcorn. |
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crab |
i wish there were some way to migrate modules between different versions of perl in a perlbrew installation. |
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crab |
or to keep them in sync, somehow. |
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MisterHatt |
hey sri, how feasible is it to run a web and irc service from the same app? |
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MisterHatt |
or rather, how much of a ridiculously stupid idea is it |
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sri |
MisterHatt: if you want to do it do it |
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MisterHatt |
I want to do a lot of things but most of them are bad ideas, this is why I ask |
| 04:33 |
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MisterHatt |
I guess it can't be too harmful tho... |
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crab |
i run a jabber client and an http server in the same program. |
| 04:34 |
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sri |
well, many stupid ideas are fun |
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MisterHatt |
hmm |
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sri |
as long as you don't want to scale i don't see a good reason not to do it |
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MisterHatt |
I have a bunch of jobs that need doing in a specific order both in EU and US servers, however onyl the EU one needs a web frontend and irc connectivity |
| 04:36 |
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MisterHatt |
was going to write a script to do them via some modules and run it in cron for the states, and then bolt it into a mojo app for the EU |
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MisterHatt |
I guess that works... |
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sri |
considering that the built in mojolicious servers are all event based there is not much you can't bolt into them |
| 04:37 |
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MisterHatt |
yeah that's what I thought |
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MisterHatt |
thanks for the clarifications |
| 04:41 |
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crab |
i really hate having to implement the same function in javascript, in perl, and in sql. |
| 04:42 |
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sri |
thinking about going all javascript? :) |
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crab |
no. |
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sri |
a perl to javascript compiler would be fun |
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sri |
at least for a subset of perl |
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crab |
in this case, even if i switched to js on the server (shudder), i'd still have to do it in js and sql. |
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sri |
not if you use mongodb |
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sri |
http://pyjs.org # bit weird nobody tried doing this for perl yet |
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crab |
sri: so what you're saying is that if i switch away from everything i'm using now, things will be different? :-) |
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sri |
that does sound very possible ;p |
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MisterHatt |
is the Mojo::DOM the right tool for logging into an external website and posting form data? |
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MisterHatt |
or would that be the ua? |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Switching from # mojolicious lite to non_lite hard for me. What is websocket analog in routing? -> Via ('websocket') doesnt work" (ru) --korjavin http://twitter.com/korjavin/st[…]97544558145060865 |
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heince |
hi, im confuse in jsonconfig |
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heince |
can i have an example how to parse it inside controller |
| 06:39 |
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crab |
you shouldn't be parsing it inside a controller. you should do it in setup. |
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heince |
ok, so i should load the plugin on startup then parse it under controller ? |
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is morbo supposed to reload change on configuration ? |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Perl + Mojolicious: Category: Scripts / Web Applications Development Applied POByudzhet:? Should overwrite existing ... http://bit.ly/qNdTsC" (ru) --FreelanceOffer http://twitter.com/FreelanceOf[…]97586107511873537 |
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nickl |
hi, i'm just learning to use mojolicious - could someone help me out with getting / setting cookies in my startup sub? |
| 09:09 |
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nickl |
or point me to the relevant docs - I couldn;t find them |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-Mail 0.82 by SHARIFULN - http://metacpan.org/release/SH[…]Plugin-Mail-0.82/" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_new/st[…]97597538508611584 |
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crab |
nickl: in your startup sub? why? |
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crab |
there aren't any requests (hence cookies) yet in your startup sub. |
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nickl |
crab: good point |
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purl |
nice and sharp |
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nickl |
ok, so I'll need to do it somewhere else, but I still don;t know how to manipulate cookies |
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nickl |
I can see that there is Mojo::Cookie and Mojo::Cookie::Request|Response but I'm not sure how I use these in my app - was hoping for a really simple interface to get and set |
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marcus |
oh hai |
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crab |
nickl: look at ->cookie() in Mojolicious::Controller |
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crab |
you just $self->cookie(Nick => "L") in any action |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Books are in the "Mojolicious" products that match your search did not" (ja) --trinityCRZ http://twitter.com/trinityCRZ/[…]97633366068838400 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Solr is an WebService:: Solr Mojolicious Data:: Page:: Move the Navigation" (ja) --trinityCRZ http://twitter.com/trinityCRZ/[…]97634622011219968 |
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nickl |
crab: thanks! |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "The framework document for the Web in Japanese-made great Mojolicious Perl. https://github.com/yuki-kimoto[…]des-japanese/wiki" (ja) --PerlCafe http://twitter.com/PerlCafe/st[…]97649808998809601 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Very clean feature of Mojolicious, a portable, Perl API pure object-oriented. Only requirement is that at least Perl 5.8.7." (ja) --PerlCafe http://twitter.com/PerlCafe/st[…]97650085860622337 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious application is incredibly easy to deploy in the Plack." (ja) --PerlCafe http://twitter.com/PerlCafe/st[…]97651273536507905 |
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crab |
nickl: generally speaking, when you think "how do i...?", you should look for an answer in Mojolicious::Controller first |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "What is it like a taxi Mojolicious. Not going to drive yourself anymore." (ja) --trinityCRZ http://twitter.com/trinityCRZ/[…]97652400839593984 |
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nickl |
6crab: ok will do, thanks for the pointer |
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crab |
zoiks. bright purple. |
| 13:21 |
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crab |
maybe i should write a book about mojolicious. with a purple cover and unicorns. |
| 13:27 |
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MisterHatt |
hmm, is it possible to reverse proxy a route to another application altogether? |
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MisterHatt |
as dumb as that sounds |
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crab |
sure. just do it. |
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MisterHatt |
I cant even think how to |
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crab |
read about embedded applications etc. |
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crab |
Mojolicious::Plugin::Mount |
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MisterHatt |
ah |
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MisterHatt |
cool, thanks |
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MisterHatt |
crab: any ideaif that'd work for non-mojo or even non-perl apps? |
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crab |
no, it won't. |
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MisterHatt |
got something where i need to pass some stuff on to a C application and then just forward the result back to the main webserver.. |
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MisterHatt |
hmm, ok, thanks |
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crab |
if you want to do that, i'd recommend doing it at a different level (e.g. in nginx) |
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crab |
but of course you can do it in mojo too. marcus might even have a proxy plugin to help you. |
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MisterHatt |
so setuo a vhost for the other app where the mask for it includes the path in the url?o.o |
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crab |
you don't need a separate vhost |
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crab |
misterhatt: e.g. http://www.gabrielweinberg.com[…]x-json-hacks.html |
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mspo |
MisterHatt: sounds like a job for qx |
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MisterHatt |
never heard of it |
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mspo |
MisterHatt: is your c program a library, a web service, or just a program? |
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MisterHatt |
web service |
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purl |
rumour has it web service is just what contains all the logic involved for bundling stuff and etc |
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MisterHatt |
really tight |
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MisterHatt |
does a bunch of threaded calcuations and returns the dynamic results ot the same url fo raccess on different hardware platforms, but it has a lot to do so it's super lean and quick, however only makes up small part of the site |
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MisterHatt |
at first i didnt think it made that much difference to be in C but ti really does |
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mspo |
it shouldn't |
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mspo |
you just need to curl/lwp/whatever out to it and get the result |
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mspo |
or Mojo::UserAgent? |
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purl |
Mojo::UserAgent is not optimized for fast blocking requests |
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crab |
what is qx? |
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purl |
qx is not there so that you can collect the output and print to stdout. qx is there so you can collect the output and assign it to a variable. or print qx" your; stuff"; |
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mspo |
crab: I thought he was just looking for output from a program |
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crab |
oh |
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MisterHatt |
mspo: well it outputs some html and a datastream depending on the request made to it |
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mspo |
MisterHatt: according to a conference I went to, stitching together a bunch of REST services is the way to scale |
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MisterHatt |
I see |
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mspo |
crab: what do you think of mojo::useragent? |
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MisterHatt |
I was a bit worried I'd need to tell my devs/client to have subdomains for the secondary app, was a bit dirty to do it like that |
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crab |
mspo: i like it. |
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crab |
misterhatt: subdomains? what? |
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purl |
subdomains are penalized in most search engines. |
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crab |
misterhatt: make it listen on localhost:4349 or something and proxy requests to it internally. |
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MisterHatt |
crab: as in, host the C app at a subdomain, and redirect requests to that |
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MisterHatt |
messy tho |
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MisterHatt |
proxy from within mojo? |
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MisterHatt |
also another odd question, possible to have a single app listening two hostnamess and route handling based on url? |
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stephan48 |
i bet you could do it with bridges, just point the 2 hostnames to same ip/or use an webserver in frontof it |
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MisterHatt |
yeah thats what I hought |
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MisterHatt |
thanks guys |
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plu |
win 25 |
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minimalist |
marcus: ping |
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crab |
plu: what did i win 25 of? |
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Kovensky |
meh |
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Kovensky |
if perlpod documents something but no standard pod formatters (other than 'perldoc') implement it properly, is it a bug? :S |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "It's been a super MoJolicious month at cupcake MoJo!!!" --cupcakeMoJo http://twitter.com/cupcakeMoJo[…]97706165487669248 |
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Kovensky: do they implement it wrong, or not implement it? |
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/Users/kovensky/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.14.1/bin/pod2html: : cannot resolve L<Usably|http://github.com/idangazit/usably-limechat> in paragraph 4. |
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MisterHatt: the mount plugin does that already |
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implement it wrong, I guess; pod2html seems to only implement the basic L<> links (to other perldoc documents) |
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github implements L<|> wrong too :( |
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kovensky: weird, you'd think someone would've noticed by now. |
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(it's actually L<schema:>) |
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I wonder where I'd complain about that but idk if github would ever pick up the fix =p |
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got used to write his github READMEs in POD |
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s/te/ting/ |
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kovensky: istr that github's readme-rendering is done by some code that's in a github repository, and they ask people to submit fixes, new converters, etc. |
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Twitter: "Look Mojolicious reference http://d.hatena.ne.jp/perlcode[…]110402/1305602329, Mojolicious apparently:: Lite is a good Monorashii realized." (ja) --narazaka http://twitter.com/narazaka/st[…]97726973278822400 |
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Twitter: "Next time, anyway Mojolicious:: Let's make at the Lite" (ja) --narazaka http://twitter.com/narazaka/st[…]97737151399215104 |
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vifo |
Good evening. |
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Ah, evening. The tumultuous mind tarries and contemplates, reveling in the silence afforded by the diurnal proletariat. Good evening, indeed. |
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Say I have an app named App and a controller named App::Foo::Bar with method baz. How can I add a route to this controller? $r->route('/foo/bar/baz')->to('foo::bar#baz') does not work, nor ->to(controller => 'Foo::Bar', ...) |
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Twitter: "# Mojolicious # chrome and # websockets made me cry. Always 'Uncaught Error: INVALID_STATE_ERR: DOM Exception 11'. Debug, tcpdump se nothing" (ru) --korjavin http://twitter.com/korjavin/st[…]97752414265937921 |
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sri |
vifo: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]ler_and_action_29 |
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@sri: thanks and shame on me, should have read the docs more carefully :) |
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Twitter: "at the same time check whether Mojolicious and Nginx with Cyrillic domains (especially not in punycode)" (ru) --skaurus http://twitter.com/skaurus/sta[…]97755828714602497 |
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Upgrading to mojo 1.68 seems to have prevented Chrome from calling WebSocket.onopen. |
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Did mojo pull ahead of chrome's websocket and become non-compatible? |
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barries |
(the old mojo was very old: 1.11) |
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barries |
ah, I see some lines in yesterday's chat logs |
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goes to look further |
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sri |
barries: which chrome? |
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sri |
anyway, we support ietf-10 websockets |
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sri |
chrome m12 would be draft-76, which is incompatible |
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sri |
what you need is chrome m14 or firefox 6 |
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barries |
yeah, found the commit where you guys pulled ahead to the ietf-10 version, figured that was probably the borkage. |
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barries |
I'm on chrome stable, which is 12. |
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sri |
soon we'll have consistent websocket support in all browsers |
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barries |
twill be nice... |
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sri |
ietf-10 is in last call, that means it's going to be a rfc |
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pulls chrome beta |
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* barries |
will probably go away during the install. |
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sri |
firefox 6 for example will go stable august 16 |
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barries |
I'll take any browser for now, so long as it doesn't break my daytime use cases. This is a hobby project that I rarely get a chance to work on. |
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pulls dev channel installer... that's where 14 is to be found, apparently. |
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sri |
they call it chrome canary |
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http://tools.google.com/dlpage/chromesxs |
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avoided canary, went for dev instead. installed now, going away for a moment to launch it. |
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sri |
canary is better, since it installs parallel to your normal chrome |
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barries |
dev is 14.x, but doesn't seem to work either. Same symptom: socket opens for a while, onopen never called, onclose called after a few seconds. |
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barries |
I'll check out canary. |
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sri |
dev is too old then |
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barries |
same symptoms on canary |
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pulls firefox 6 |
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barries |
been a long time since I developed for FF. chrome so shiny. |
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sri |
then it's something else, i've just tried canary and it works |
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barries |
thanks for checking. |
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sri |
we have a simple test |
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sri |
"mojo daemon"…open http://127.0.0.1:3000/diag/websocket |
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barries |
confirming: that works in dev. |
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barries |
thanks for the tip. |
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mspo |
is there a channel on here that I could ask about a potential perl bug/problem? |
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crab |
hi barries. |
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barries |
that's voodoo. I edited the .js file for the app a bit, it then started working in chrome dev. I undid the edit, reloaded the page, it continues to work. |
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barries |
hey crab! |
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alnewkirk |
mspo, #perl-help |
