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MisterHatt |
url_escape is to url encode strings? |
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tempire |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi[…]nny_X-Men_461.jpg |
| 01:25 |
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tempire |
mojo from marvel comics |
| 01:25 |
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tempire |
looks like a super villain to me |
| 01:27 |
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jwang |
eh, could there be one for Mojolicious? |
| 01:27 |
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jwang |
I used this in a blog article: http://grokify.com/images/Iron[…]-Hero_500x149.png |
| 02:03 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Giggling to myself as I work on a little side project. Mojolicious makes building web apps fun again. #perl" --jasoncrowther http://twitter.com/jasoncrowth[…]02198499902365697 |
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jwang |
mm, wonder if the IronMan graphic can be used for Mojo, I don't see why not |
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plu |
Mojolicious++ # abusing it for a textmate bundle :) |
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marcus |
yo |
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| 07:24 |
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plu |
marcus: hey ho! |
| 07:24 |
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plu |
marcus: are you at the YAPC? :) |
| 07:24 |
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marcus |
plu: not yet. Arriving late sunday |
| 07:24 |
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plu |
marcus: ah cool! I couldnt make it this year |
| 07:26 |
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jwang |
Riga is a great city. would love to visit it again |
| 07:26 |
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jwang |
once the largest city in Sweden if I recall correctly |
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| 07:32 |
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marcus |
jwang: sounds strange, latvia is a lot smaller than sweden. |
| 07:33 |
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marcus |
but it's a nice city. Been there a couple of times |
| 07:34 |
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marcus |
jwang: wikipedia says you are right tho :) |
| 07:35 |
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marcus |
Riga is like ⅓ of the latvian population. |
| 07:35 |
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marcus |
it's smaller than stockholm today tho |
| 07:37 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "@ It is hard to use Web applications in Perl plain kazumi_sio. Is very easy to use framework for something Mojolicious." (ja) --perlcodesample http://twitter.com/perlcodesam[…]02282542085976064 |
| 07:37 |
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batman |
sooo much easier to program when you have gotten some sleep :) |
| 07:37 |
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marcus |
batman: true that! |
| 07:38 |
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batman |
i figured out the stash issue complained about yesterday. the issue wasn't include() it was content_for() and MY problem was that i did content_for(...) before stash(...) :/ |
| 07:38 |
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batman |
but i got another question today, which i hope isn't that obvious |
| 07:39 |
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batman |
$dom->find('pre')->each(sub { warn shift->text }); # looks like newlines are stripped away from the pre tag... am i doing something wrong? |
| 07:40 |
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marcus |
batman: we prefer questions in the form of an answer. ;) |
| 07:40 |
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marcus |
aka unit test! |
| 07:41 |
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marcus |
(it looks like you are doing it right tho) |
| 07:41 |
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batman |
perl -MMojo::DOM -e'Mojo::DOM->new->parse("<pre>hello\nworld</pre>")->find("pre")->each(sub { warn shift->text })' |
| 07:42 |
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batman |
not really a unittest though :/ |
| 07:43 |
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marcus |
nope. but it looks like you are right. |
| 07:43 |
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batman |
sub _text {} in Mojo::DOM does Trim whitespace |
| 07:43 |
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batman |
maybe it shouldn't if it's a <pre> tag? |
| 07:44 |
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marcus |
batman: that sounds useful to me, but we have to wait for sri to leave sleep mode to know for sure. |
| 07:44 |
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batman |
sounds sane |
| 07:45 |
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marcus |
batman: you could just do a github pull request with tests. |
| 07:45 |
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batman |
i'll have a look at it |
| 07:46 |
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batman |
but i would image this would be rather easy to fix for someone who's used to looking at the mojo code |
| 07:46 |
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batman |
*imagine |
| 07:46 |
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batman |
instead of me poking around :P |
| 07:47 |
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marcus |
batman: poking around is the best way to learn stuff tho :) |
| 07:47 |
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marcus |
batman: going to riga? |
| 07:47 |
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batman |
i got sooo much stuff i need to do, so whenever i can avoid learning stuff and just using it, i will |
| 07:49 |
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batman |
yeah i am. you haven't written anything on http://yapceurope.lv/ye2011/wi[…]o%20Stays%20Where |
| 07:49 |
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batman |
i just got "ok" yesterday from work :) |
| 07:49 |
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batman |
was in a bit of a hurry, but it all worked out |
| 07:50 |
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marcus |
seems I am the only one staying at my hotel :) |
| 07:50 |
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marcus |
Old Riga Palace |
| 07:50 |
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jwang |
marcus: wikipedia is great. like instant info |
| 07:50 |
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batman |
ok. |
| 07:50 |
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batman |
i hope i got wireless :P |
| 07:51 |
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marcus |
Internett |
| 07:51 |
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marcus |
•Trådløst Internett er tilgjengelig kun på de offentlige områdene og koster ingenting. |
| 07:51 |
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marcus |
•Internett via kabel er tilgjengelig kun på hotellrommene og koster ingenting. |
| 07:51 |
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marcus |
>( |
| 07:51 |
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marcus |
:)( |
| 07:52 |
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batman |
sweet |
| 07:52 |
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batman |
when are you going? |
| 07:53 |
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marcus |
19 on sunday from Rygge |
| 07:53 |
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marcus |
with Ryan air |
| 07:53 |
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marcus |
and going home with norwegian on wednesday |
| 07:54 |
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batman |
ok. i'm leaving around noon from osl, and back on wednesday, aronud 7pm i think... |
| 07:54 |
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marcus |
my flight back is in the day, 13:50 |
| 07:55 |
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batman |
so today i need to make the place look ok before my gf comes back on monday :) |
| 07:55 |
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batman |
oh. so you getting to days of talks, and one day with hangover? |
| 07:55 |
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batman |
oh. so you're getting two days of talks, and one day with hangover? |
| 07:55 |
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batman |
of? with? |
| 07:56 |
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batman |
<--- brain is slowly melting down... |
| 07:56 |
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marcus |
batman: yeah. I'm scheduled to hold a Mojolicious talk as well. |
| 07:56 |
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batman |
i think in a couple of years, the only thing i'll know is Perl, unless i do something drastic :/ |
| 07:56 |
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batman |
i saw that. i don't think i'm going to participate. |
| 07:57 |
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batman |
i saw the slides (i think) and i do believe i got it covered |
| 07:58 |
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marcus |
batman: I think the slides you saw were from the london.pm presentation, it's been updated since. But I'm not really trying to convince people who are already in #mojo, so I don't really care if you attend :) |
| 07:58 |
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marcus |
hmm, need to update the CSS selector slide to include $subject |
| 07:59 |
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marcus |
batman: you missed an awesome oslo.pm talk on thursday. |
| 08:00 |
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marcus |
damian ftw. |
| 08:00 |
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marcus |
at least 50-60 attended |
| 08:02 |
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batman |
yeah, i was running late because of dinner :( |
| 08:03 |
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batman |
i was done eating 6:10, and i didn't want to come in late |
| 08:03 |
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batman |
please don't tell me it wouldn't be an issue :/ |
| 08:04 |
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marcus |
you'd probably suffered some light heckling, but it would have been fine. |
| 08:04 |
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batman |
arg. |
| 08:04 |
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marcus |
the talk was done at 8:45 |
| 08:05 |
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batman |
oh. |
| 08:05 |
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batman |
can't do much about it now :( |
| 08:06 |
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batman |
another question: how is the syntax highlightning done on http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Lite ? |
| 08:06 |
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marcus |
see for yourself, the source is on github ;) |
| 08:06 |
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batman |
where? |
| 08:06 |
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marcus |
https://github.com/kraih/mojolicio.us |
| 08:08 |
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marcus |
actually, the pod renderer is shipped with mojo |
| 08:08 |
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marcus |
http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]in/PodRenderer.pm |
| 08:09 |
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marcus |
seems it's done clientside with javascript |
| 08:09 |
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marcus |
<pre class="prettyprint"> |
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marcus |
http://mojolicio.us/css/prettify-mojo.css |
| 08:11 |
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batman |
http://code.google.com/p/google-code-prettify/ ? |
| 08:38 |
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tempire |
I'm not going to be at yapc |
| 08:38 |
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tempire |
but I'm excited about marcus' mojo talk |
| 08:40 |
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marcus |
ah, reminds me I need to show off mojocasts as well |
| 08:40 |
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tempire |
hooray! |
| 08:42 |
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tempire |
huh |
| 08:42 |
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tempire |
google is a yapc::eu sponsor |
| 08:43 |
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jamesw |
my brain is broke |
| 08:44 |
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marcus |
tempire: for recruiting, prolly |
| 08:44 |
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tempire |
I'd work for google |
| 08:44 |
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tempire |
if only to understand their organizational and management structure |
| 08:47 |
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batman |
code-prettify works like a charm (almost) :) |
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rhaen |
hm. |
| 09:42 |
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rhaen |
btw, I am not sure if I would work for them. |
| 09:43 |
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tempire |
I want to work for apple when they open their spaceship |
| 09:44 |
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rhaen |
k, see you there! |
| 09:44 |
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rhaen |
I had the google interviews, but I cancelled them. |
| 09:44 |
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rhaen |
well, the 4th. |
| 09:44 |
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purl |
hmmm... the 4th is outstanding |
| 09:45 |
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rhaen |
as my current work-life balance is close to optimal. So why should I change? |
| 09:45 |
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rhaen |
even working for google might be something like the best thing for technicans. |
| 09:45 |
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rhaen |
However, I am a father, too. |
| 09:46 |
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rhaen |
and a husband |
| 09:46 |
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purl |
a husband is at http://www.10k4awife.com/ |
| 09:46 |
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rhaen |
but working for Apple, hm..... that would be just awesome :) |
| 09:47 |
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rhaen |
interesting, my shell has dns - firefox and safari don't. Is there a way flush caches? |
| 09:48 |
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rhaen |
hm. rebooting due to a broken dns resolution? How ugly! |
| 09:52 |
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rhaen |
ah. dscacheutil -flushdns hm. |
| 09:54 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Just a little, Mojolicious:: Lite - I touch. Installation $ cpanm Mojolicious ... http://t.co/F87wmNo" (ja) --sakusaku http://twitter.com/sakusaku/st[…]02316978420715521 |
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* sri |
yawns |
| 10:07 |
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sri |
marcus/batman: i would add text/all_text without trimming, but nobody has come up with good method names yet |
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sri |
marcus/batman: and no, i won't implement pre magic based on unit tests, but i'm open for full patches |
| 10:19 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious Google Group – Starting with Plugins http://t.co/VdgkPC1" --geekspot_ru http://twitter.com/geekspot_ru[…]02323483983364096 |
| 10:34 |
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sri |
it's kinda weird, people keep asking about text/all_text without trim but never come up with a good method name… that's the only thing missing, the whole code is already prepared |
| 10:40 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojocast #2: Placeholders, methods, and formats http://t.co/MFWGdBv #mojolicious #perl #видео #video" --allframeworks http://twitter.com/allframewor[…]02328698568589312 |
| 11:14 |
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batman |
raw_text() ? |
| 11:15 |
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batman |
sri: are you open for pre magic by default, or do you -always- want to go via other_get_text_without_trimming() method? |
| 11:15 |
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sri |
pre magic would make sense i guess |
| 11:16 |
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sri |
raw_text and all_raw_text is kinda ugly |
| 11:16 |
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batman |
ok. guess i will need to start on the patch -some-other-day- then |
| 11:17 |
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batman |
another thing i think i've been missing out on is how to construct urls/links with query_string... i've been trying all kinds of weird stuff like url_for($name, { query => 42 }); <--- that's for named captures and not QS right? |
| 11:17 |
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batman |
oh crap! i'm late :( |
| 11:17 |
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batman |
got to run - will ask about the url_for (and friends) later |
| 11:17 |
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batman |
take care. |
| 11:18 |
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sri |
for the future |
| 11:18 |
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sri |
never ask shit and vanish 5 mins after |
| 11:19 |
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* sri |
should just stay away from end user support |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojo::Template - search.cpan.org: Mojo::Template is a minimalistic and very Perl-ish template engine, designed s... http://t.co/ZZAntU0" --internetspecial http://twitter.com/internetspe[…]02365553003474945 |
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GitHub118 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/osFGcK |
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GitHub118 |
[mojo/master] added experimental raw_text and all_raw_text methods to Mojo::DOM - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
i still don't like the raw_text, all_raw_text and all_raw names |
| 13:22 |
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sri |
in fact, i dislike them so much i might just remove them again |
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GitHub35 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/ng7O1I |
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GitHub35 |
[mojo/master] removed raw_text and all_raw_text methods from Mojo::DOM again until we have better names - Sebastian Riedel |
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GitHub105 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/n1KOJB |
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GitHub105 |
[mojo/master] cleanup - Sebastian Riedel |
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ghandi |
Hi There! I'm one of many switchers from catalyst. I really like mojolicious. But currently i can't realy find a way how to get the real paths to files in my App? I've seen there is Mojo::Home. But do i really have to instantiate it myself all the time over and over again? |
| 14:26 |
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ghandi |
In general im searching something like path_to("/some/file.png"); in catalyst |
| 14:26 |
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* sri |
waves |
| 14:27 |
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sri |
app->home |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo#home |
| 14:28 |
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sri |
defined in the base class of Mojolicious |
| 14:29 |
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ghandi |
Ahhh. Ok, thanks. I was trying $self->home in my controllers which wasn't working. But this solves my problem. Thanks :) |
| 14:44 |
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ghandi |
why do log messages i send via app->log->debug("foo"); end up in stdout of morbo instead (like all other log messages) in log/development.log? |
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GitHub9 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/nFUgd6 |
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GitHub9 |
[mojo/master] fixed small text formatting bug - Sebastian Riedel |
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Topic for #mojo is now join the revolution ♥ http://mojolicio.us ♥ http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today |
| 16:48 |
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sri |
interesting, firefox and webkit already support some css4 selectors |
| 16:58 |
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marcus |
sri: cool. |
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* marcus |
tests siege as an 'ab' replacement |
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* mhi |
guesses that someone was reading HN ;) |
| 17:14 |
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marcus |
mhi would be right |
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mhi |
:) |
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marcus |
brew ftw |
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marcus |
pretty colors :) |
| 17:17 |
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marcus |
seems it is not broken like ab is on lion \o/ |
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sri |
i've been using siege since installing lion, not too impressed though |
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sri |
keep alive seems rather fragile |
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sri |
ab is broken because of kqueue btw. i've heard it can be repaired by enforcing poll |
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sri |
siege also seems slower |
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sri |
for whatever reason |
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ghandi |
Anybody got an idea, why M::Lite Apps recognize the home-dir automatically and correct, while the full featured app doesn't find anything by itsef (app->home is empty) and when calling detect() it returns the perl module path (/usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0)? |
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stephan48 |
ghandi: in a Mojo app you need $self->app->home or $self->home |
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stephan48 |
cause app is the app instance only in Lite Apps as far as i know |
| 17:43 |
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ghandi |
ahhhh...sri already pointed out, that i should use app->home but i interpreted that app just be the name of my app so i was trying MyFullAppName->home...because $self->home failed in the controller...but $self->app->home works like a charme...little confusing.... |
| 17:44 |
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sri |
we would never use a singleton for something like that |
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marcus |
sri: did you do the sysctl as brew install suggested. |
| 17:47 |
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marcus |
sudo sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.msl=1000 |
| 17:48 |
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sri |
interesting |
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sri |
doesn't make much of a difference though |
| 17:51 |
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sri |
it appears to not recognize connection: close |
| 17:54 |
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sri |
so it fails a transaction every 25 requests |
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exc |
is there an easier way of setting default displayed module when using pod_renderer plugin? |
| 18:00 |
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exc |
currently it is Mojolicious/Guides |
| 18:00 |
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exc |
so far i came up with |
| 18:01 |
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exc |
$self->routes->name('perldocmodule')->children->[0]->pattern->defaults->{'module'} = 'README' |
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sri |
the pod renderer plugin is not meant as a general purpose perldoc browser |
| 18:02 |
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exc |
all right, but it would be a nice feature to use it as a default browser for the application itselft,just thinking |
| 18:03 |
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sri |
it's a huge hack |
| 18:03 |
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sri |
i wouldn't feel comfortable having people rely on it |
| 18:03 |
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exc |
my idea was to allow me as a developer to use "/perldoc" route to browse the pods of my project |
| 18:04 |
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sri |
feel free to fork it and turn it into a much more powerful plugin though |
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exc |
huh, but a good idea |
| 18:05 |
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exc |
but maybe all it takes is just to add one line and modify another one: |
| 18:05 |
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sri |
Mojolicious::Plugin::PodRenderButPowerful or so :) |
| 18:05 |
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exc |
my $module = $conf->{module} || 'Mojolicious/Guides'; |
| 18:06 |
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exc |
'/perldoc/(*module)' => {module => $module} => sub { |
| 18:06 |
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exc |
well ... and maybe @PATHS, that would be all :) |
| 18:06 |
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sri |
that's always how it starts ;p |
| 18:07 |
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exc |
i see ;) |
| 18:10 |
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exc |
hm, i should probably go with Mojolicious::Plugin::PodRenderButPowerful |
| 18:10 |
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exc |
and it all started as an idea like |
| 18:11 |
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exc |
"hey, can i use my mojo app to browse its docs? hm, ... pod_renderer" |
| 18:11 |
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exc |
:) |
| 18:12 |
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sri |
your hack above to set the default module is scary |
| 18:12 |
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sri |
name is useless though |
| 18:13 |
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exc |
yes, i know, my hands very shaking when i first write that one ;) |
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sri |
$self->routes->children->[0]->pattern->defaults->{'module'} = 'README'; |
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exc |
aha, thank you |
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exc |
my wrong assumption was that by using name() i can refer to the specific perdoc route |
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tempire |
https://github.com/plu/github-tmbundle |
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tempire |
hmm |
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tempire |
got some mojocast traffic from linkedin |
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tempire |
wonder where that was posted |
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[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://bit.ly/r17toX |
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[mojo/master] fixed typo - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
http://www.css3shapes.com/ # neat |
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sri |
and it looks like firefox 6 got released early :) |
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sri |
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/6.0/mac/en-US/ # with proper websocket support! |
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Twitter: "The #websocket api in #firefox 6 is prefixed though, but there's already a usage example in #mojolicious. http://t.co/oleExKB #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/statu[…]02456855850270720 |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "♺ @kraih The #websocket api in #firefox 6 is prefixed though, but there's already a usage example in #mojolicious. http://t.co/aQXatbt #perl" --Metztli_IT http://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/[…]02460348904378369 |
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john |
the css3 shapres are cool |
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marcus |
agree |
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marcus |
sri: so it's now supported in chrome and firefox? |
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sri |
chrome canary |
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sri |
but should be in the next stable release |
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marcus |
swell |
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marcus |
homefully apple will stuff it into safari 5.2 |
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marcus |
hope |
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marcus |
any chance of it getting into ie10 as well? |
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batman |
sri: sorry for leaving... it's just too much fun learning new stuff, so time ran away |
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Hi, I need to call a route that launches a job that can take lots of time and show its status in the browser. I need to fork the process and start polling another route that makes the check or Mojo can help me in other ways? |
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mspo |
how do I open/read a file relative to my app's path? |
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mspo |
Mojo::Home? |
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marcus |
->app->home->rel_file ? |
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marcus |
grr, fucking google is giving me hits for 'CS4' when searching for CSS4 subject :-/ |
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Skylos |
goggle nows yew dunno hao ta spall. |
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batman |
mspo: have you gotten an answer? |
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exc |
http://localhost:3000/doc - on-the-fly documentation of your Mojolicious application |
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exc |
using https://github.com/viliampucik[…]lugin-DocRenderer |
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exc |
[based on nice Mojolicious::Plugin::PodRenderer] |
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mspo |
batman: I got app->home->rel_file, but I haven't tried it yet |
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batman |
excellent. |
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mspo |
somehow I never did my $app = Mojolicious->new; |
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batman |
and then you can use Mojo::Asset::File to slurp the content in... but a normal open() will also work :) |
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mspo |
yeah I just found that slurp |
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marcus |
working on slides - http://nordaaker.com/docs/skit[…]110813-231718.jpg |
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mhi |
:) |
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mhi |
Big in Russia? |
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marcus |
mhi: some of the very first mojolicious presentations were held there. |
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marcus |
mhi: at some point, this channel was like 50% cyrillic ppl :) |
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marcus |
hmm, metacpan source code actually looks pretty sane. how cool. |
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batman |
i tend to do $data = do { local $/; open my $FH, '<', $file; <$FH> }; to slurp... not sure if there's any difference |
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mhi |
marcus: Wow, nice to know. |
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marcus |
mspo: very neat! |
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marcus |
mhi: we still have yko at least ;) |
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sromanov |
marcus: Foxcool and myself are from St. Pete's =) |
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marcus |
sromanov: I have a guest from st. petersburg atm :) |
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sromanov |
nice) |
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marcus |
she brought me unfiltered fresh beer :) |
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sri |
exc: great, now i have something to refer people to when they ask for more perldoc features :) |
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batman |
now i can ask again: how can i use link_to() or url_for() to generate query strings? |
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sri |
you don't, they return Mojo::URL objects |
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sri |
not link_to… but i think you can pass Mojo::URL objects to it |
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batman |
let's say i'm currently on http://foo.com/resource/named_capture?a=42 and i want to make a new link/url in the current template to look like http://foo.com/resource/named_capture?a=42&b=24 |
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marcus |
batman: I've been using c.req.url.clone or so |
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batman |
in your controller before sending it to the template? |
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marcus |
batman: no, I've been doing that in TT. |
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batman |
where does c come from? |
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marcus |
batman: self |
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sri |
<%= url_for->query(foo => 'bar') %> |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/URL |
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marcus |
sri: will url_for preserve query parameters? |
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sri |
no |
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marcus |
right |
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marcus |
I typically do this for a pager for instance, to set a new page. |
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alnewkirk |
store param() state in stash or session |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: the request object has the full url |
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sri |
using c.req…. all the time seems tedious |
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sri |
you should have a helper |
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batman |
maybe i should create a plugin which provide url_with() and link_with() or something... |
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marcus |
sri: yeah, but maybe this should be in the standard package? |
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alnewkirk |
store params in session |
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marcus |
sri: catalyst has uri_with |
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alnewkirk |
write your pager to look at session instead of param |
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marcus |
or so |
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alnewkirk |
that way you dont have to pass long query string all over the place |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: wtf |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: then you can't link to a page. |
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alnewkirk |
marcus, wtf wtf |
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alnewkirk |
marcus, why not? |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: because the page is stored in the session? |
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alnewkirk |
.... and |
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batman |
i was thinking about url_with(@args, \%captures, \%query); where @args are what you normally give url_for() |
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sri |
marcus: make a proposal, i've not seen a sleek solution yet though |
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tempire |
marcus: you should mention that mojocasts was #1 on hacker news for a couple of hours. one more thing to highlight mojolicious' hipness |
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sri |
batman: what would be the point of that? |
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marcus |
sri: url_with(foo =>bar) |
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alnewkirk |
$self->session->{page}++; ... url_for 'listpage'; ... listpage action looks at session->{page} for param |
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alnewkirk |
no ugly url string |
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sri |
marcus: dunno |
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alnewkirk |
same sata |
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alnewkirk |
data* |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: session is stored in your browser cookie. |
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sri |
alnewkirk: marcus is right, you can't link to it *from the putside* |
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batman |
alnewkirk: YOU can't see MY session data. so if I give YOU a link without params, then YOU can't access the same page as me |
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sri |
*outside |
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batman |
sri: what would be the point of what? |
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alnewkirk |
that is true, ... i didnt know that was a prerequisite |
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batman |
url_with() ? |
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sri |
batman: your url_with makes no sense |
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sri |
it's like url_for in green |
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alnewkirk |
i know when building query strings that using paging and sorting, etc, ... it can be cumbersome and most apps i've seen use sessions |
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batman |
what does "in green" mean? |
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sri |
it's the same damn thing in a different color |
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sri |
marcus proposal makes sense, but i'm not convinced yet |
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DaTa |
anohter alnewkirk |
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batman |
i need to write some code and some tests to show it i think... but the idea is that sometimes you want to keep everything, but add/remove a query param. other times you might want to keep alt the query params, but change the path-part |
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alnewkirk |
say wah |
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batman |
alnewkirk: ever copy/pasted a google search result url to someone? |
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marcus |
batman: I can't remember needing the second use case. |
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alnewkirk |
batman, Mojo::URL is great at that |
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alnewkirk |
cramming all that functionality into a helper is gonna be tricky |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: please don't use the session for that, it kills kittens. |
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batman |
alnewkirk: imagine how the receiver of that url would look like if all it said was google.com, without a query string :S |
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sri |
marcus point is that url_for doesn't preserve the query, that's really the only valid point here |
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sri |
everything else is already covered in some way or another |
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marcus |
sri: It's useful, I promise :) |
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sri |
i think my main problem is the name |
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sri |
url_with doesn't tell me anything |
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alnewkirk |
consider the following /listpage?page_number=2&first_name_sort=true&first_name_order=ASC&last_login_sort=true&last_login_order=DESC& ..... very cumbersome |
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alnewkirk |
theres gotta be a better way |
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sri |
alnewkirk: session abuse is rarely the answer |
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alnewkirk |
sri, i agree, |
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sri |
gotta stay RESTful |
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alnewkirk |
i was merely stating what i've seen other app do |
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marcus |
alnewkirk: the solution is to only include the ones the user has changed. |
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marcus |
not all the possible options. |
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batman |
i'll put something together maybe tomorrow... but i'm off to yapc so i'm not sure what will happen the next days when it comes to programming :) |
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exc |
well, some REST apps use headers for paging 'Range: items:0-25', |
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sri |
everything can happen at yapc? |
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marcus |
exc: browsers can't handle that tho? |
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exc |
sorting can express in shorter form: (+name)(-age) |
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marcus |
sri: It's too bad you're not coming :/ |
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sri |
exc: that's for apis |
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sri |
marcus: ye :/ |
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exc |
actually, I use Dojo toolkit, which uses headers when it communicates with REST |
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marcus |
chansen: are you coming? |
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sri |
well, ajax uses rest apis |
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marcus |
exc: ajax requests are api calls :) |
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sri |
we're mostly talking about user visible endpoints |
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sri |
helper url_with => sub { shift->req->url->clone->query([@_]) }; |
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sri |
that is marcus proposal |
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marcus |
yupp |
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exc |
marcus: i see, btw: http://dojotoolkit.org/documen[…]tore_driven_grid/ |
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marcus |
sri: alternative url_with_query() is a bit longer |
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sri |
i'd like a hint at it being the full current url |
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marcus |
sri: current_url_with sounds a bit corny |
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sri |
what does the url_with in catalyst do? |
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sri |
(or uri_with) |
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marcus |
sri: Returns a rewritten URI object for the current request. |
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sri |
i see |
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marcus |
takes a hashref |
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sri |
are you proposing this as a helper of regular controller method? |
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sri |
or both? |
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marcus |
helper |
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* sri |
nods |
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batman |
helper url_with => sub { shift->req->url->clone->query([@_]) }; # this will not replace the existing query params? |
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sri |
it merges |
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alnewkirk |
both would be good, that way you cover the second use case |
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sri |
->query(@_) would be replace |
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batman |
cool |
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sri |
there are even more things query can do |
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marcus |
batman: mbook:metacpan-web marcus$ perl -MMojo::URL -le'$u=Mojo::URL->new("?foo=bar&bar=foo");print $u->query([foo=>"baz"]);' |
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alnewkirk |
my $url = $self->url_with({'add', 'stuff'}, 'delete'); # i suppose |
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batman |
does it make sense if [foo=>undef] would remove a parameter? |
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batman |
...like catalyst's uri_with() |
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marcus |
batman: I would like that, but atm it's the same as foo=>"" |
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batman |
yeah. i noticed :) |
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marcus |
batman: that would be an incompatible change in the Mojo::URL object tho |
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batman |
i see |
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mspo |
how do I properly use Mojo::JSON error? |
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mspo |
it's otherwise just silent if I have a json syntax problem |
| 22:07 |
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marcus |
mspo: you just need to inspect the error method after parsing |
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sri |
i would be fine with undef removing the value, but we would have to see if people rely on current behavior |
| 22:09 |
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batman |
tweet it :) |
| 22:10 |
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sri |
doesn't work for this kinda stuff :/ |
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mspo |
marcus: so $json->decode($foo) or $json->error isn't going to work? |
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marcus |
sri: seems unlikely that it would cause trouble. |
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sri |
marcus: think i'm ok with a url_with helper |
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sri |
yea, it's one of those cases where you have to break the api to be sure |
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sri |
people prolly won't even know if you asked them |
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sri |
i don't see it causing harm though |
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sri |
not present or empty should mostly be the same |
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sri |
marcus: just don't forget the tests ;) |
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mspo |
I'll just use $json->error ? return $json->error : return $decoded; |
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sri |
die $json->error unless my $result = $json->decode(…); |
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mspo |
I just switched my first return to die and I like it :) |
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Skylos |
I love exception pattern |
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batman |
https://github.com/jhthorsen/m[…]us-plugin-urlwith # this is what i have so far... |
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mspo |
can I use Mojolicious::Static inside of a template to wrap files in layouts? |
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perlrocks |
Twitter: "Mojolicious-Plugin-DocRenderer 1.0 by EXC - http://t.co/wv510nd" --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_new/st[…]02507440041492480 |
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mspo |
or should I just slurp it? |
| 22:32 |
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sri |
batman: i still don't get it, what's the point of named url_with? |
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sri |
$controller->url_with('named', { age => 42 }); |
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sri |
this seems pointless |
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batman |
let's say you're browsing page A for a given resource, but then page A does not have the resource, so it wants to redirect you to page B, but with the same query params. |
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alnewkirk |
that seems very plausible |
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batman |
that's not really "named" example, but it's an example on why i want ... @_ ? $c->url_for(@_) ... |
| 22:35 |
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alnewkirk |
page_a takes the exact same parameters as page_b |
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batman |
$c->redirect_to($c->url_with('http://other.domain.com')); |
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mhi |
Just out of interest: Is there a Mojomolicious book on its way? |
| 22:36 |
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sri |
hmm, now i'm once again not convinced of url_with |
| 22:36 |
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mhi |
(-mo :) |
| 22:37 |
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sri |
maybe it needs to grow up in a plugin first |
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batman |
that's why i did mojolicious-plugin-urlwith :) |
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sri |
batman++ |
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alnewkirk |
DocRenderer seems like a great edition to the M::Plugin namespace |
| 22:38 |
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sri |
yes, it's a fork that needed to happen |
| 22:38 |
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batman |
thanks. but i will not release it if marcus thinks it's a stupid implementation |
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batman |
anyway... if i may be excused, i would like to go to bed now. need to start packing, and tiding up the apartment before my flight tomorrow |
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sri |
you're excused :) |
| 22:40 |
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batman |
sweet like sugar |
| 22:40 |
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batman |
g'nite |
| 22:41 |
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sri |
nn |
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sri |
batman: btw. Mojo::DOM->text has <pre> support now |
| 22:45 |
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sri |
i've also thought about <br> and <p> support… but that's really outside the scope of ->text |
| 22:46 |
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sri |
after all we have a rather good DOM tree layout that other modules could use |
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tempire |
ok |
| 22:57 |
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tempire |
so |
| 22:57 |
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tempire |
mojocast #3 |
| 22:57 |
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tempire |
show usage of a simple plugin, probably something builtin |
| 22:58 |
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tempire |
then some actions that do auth |
| 22:58 |
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tempire |
consolidate auth to a helper |
| 22:58 |
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tempire |
then switch the auth helper to under |
| 22:58 |
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tempire |
and show tag helpers |
| 22:59 |
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tempire |
and then make the connection between helpers and plugins |
| 22:59 |
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tempire |
so by the end, people making and submitting plugins will seem like no big deal |
| 22:59 |
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tempire |
if there's enough time, I suppose I could include a blurb about submitting to cpan |
| 22:59 |
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tempire |
that parts iffy |
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tempire |
but I like the part about people understanding that plugins are not a big deal |
| 23:00 |
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tempire |
'cause there's no reason that every mojo user, even the complete n00b, can't be making and submitting simple mojolicious plugins |
| 23:00 |
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tempire |
the barrier of entry is so low, it's just the perception that prevents it |
| 23:01 |
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tempire |
Mojocasts: From 0 to web app in minutes! |
| 23:01 |
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sri |
sounds great |
| 23:02 |
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sri |
lots of frequently asked questions covered |
| 23:04 |
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tempire |
how's the mongodb thing coming? |
| 23:04 |
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sri |
slowly, but making progress again |
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sri |
mojolicious is in a very good spot now, so i should have more time for mongodb again |
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tempire |
woah |
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tempire |
nyan.cat is fully html5 |
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tempire |
no images |
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purl |
no images are used for the quotes |
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sri |
wo |
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sri |
w |
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tempire |
oh boo |
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tempire |
the cat itself is a gif |
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Skylos_ |
what a shortcut. |
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purl |
i guess a shortcut is ace |
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tempire |
but the rainbow and background is js+html |
