Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-09-10

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04:51 * tempire dances
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08:11 yko Hell yeah!
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11:56 crab morning.
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13:18 * sri yawns
13:21 mspo <shrug> mod_perl is pretty fast
13:39 sri not faster than the alternatives, and surely uses more memory
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13:48 crab mod_perl is pretty horrifying
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14:51 GitHub22 [mojo/master] improved plugin loader tests - Sebastian Riedel
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15:39 * sri wonders if there's a way to enable HARNESS_OPTIONS=j5 in Makefile.PL
15:40 mspo yeah, fcgi is probably about the same speed
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16:04 sri tempire: wow, episode 3 makes episodes 1 and 2 look bad :o must be the much crisper text
16:24 tempire Yeah, I was going for a sublime-look
16:25 tempire I figured out how to make the text look even better after I finished recording it all.
16:25 tempire so 4 will be even better
16:26 sri \o/
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16:37 tempire the new font on mojolicio.us, helvetica nueue?
16:37 sri helvetica neue, helvetica, sans-serif
16:39 sri no more serifs
16:39 sri i've also updated the default 500 and 404 pages
16:40 sri no more shadows, and everything looks a bit crisper
16:40 jorol hi
16:40 purl que tal, jorol.
16:40 * sri waves
16:40 jorol i´ve got content negotiation working with Mojolicious::Lite for application/json and text/xml
16:41 jorol but how can I implement content negotition for application/rdf+xml or other representations with respond_to()?
16:41 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/G​uides/Rendering#Content_Type_28_format_29
16:42 sri you add types
16:50 jorol How could I load them in a single file app?
16:51 jorol I got this error: "Can't locate object method "types" via package "Mojolicious::Controller"
16:55 tempire app->types->type(…)
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16:59 sri i need to get used to section links in pod, they are so damn useful
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17:17 sri jorol: that should help in the future
17:19 jorol thx a lot! still struggeling with my code...
17:35 tempire lulz
17:35 tempire use Mo;
17:35 sri my turn to release M?
17:35 tempire has to be smaller than http://cpansearch.perl.org/​src/INGY/Mo-0.13/lib/Mo.pm
17:36 sri oh, that is small
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17:41 jorol thx again to tempire and sri! got it working.
17:49 tempire wow
17:49 tempire for the first time ever, I think, opera doesn't look cluttered
17:50 tempire they should have done this a decade ago
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17:56 sri i've not looked at opera in ages
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18:39 judofyr sri: look! I created a collaborative coding environment with Etherpad: http://www.screenr.com/2xps :D
18:39 judofyr (for Ruby though)
18:40 judofyr we'll give it a try on the next Ruby meetup here
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19:42 sri judofyr: reminds me of 2005 when some of us tried to write some parts of Catalyst in subethaedit, it went horribly wrong :)
19:43 judofyr :)
19:44 judofyr I don't think it will be useful for general development
19:53 mspo my job wanted to try collaborative editing at one point
19:54 Skylos sounds like the sort of thing that needs massive amounts of dynamic testing
20:04 sri collaborative editing is like three-legged race
20:11 Skylos seems like it would take alot of concentration to be effective
20:12 sri i'd say it's almost impossible
20:12 Skylos agreed
20:12 sri if you want to be effective go with pair programming
20:12 Skylos thats not how we learn to program.
20:13 Skylos (collab editing)
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20:45 stderr Hi all
20:48 stderr @all newbie question: how do I get to the current request object ($c->req) from a template? To get basic stuff like PHP's $_REQUEST['HOST']. Use a hook to stuff the current controller object into the stash or what?
20:50 * sri waves
20:50 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolic​ious/Guides/Rendering#Embedded_Perl
20:51 sri it's all in the documentation
20:56 stderr sri: I'd hoped to keep the templates Perl free, even use TT. But even with embedding code, I know how to get the current controller's name but not the object
21:01 Skylos shouldn't the controller object relevant bits be stashed before you render the template
21:05 stderr Skylos: sure. However, when I need stuff in a page header, I have to remember to put the request object there for each and every page. That's where $app->hook(before_render => ...) could come in but it's marked "experimental". I was wondering if there's a way to do it so it doesn't break on the next update that changes this hook.
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21:13 stderr sri: that was quick :) Thanks!
21:14 stderr sri: seems I still have to hack the TtRenderer plugin to get there but maybe AB will consider it for some future release
21:19 stderr sri: oh ... "c". I'd better read the code properly before, it's not in TtRenderer's doc but it's there
21:19 sri send a doc patch ;)
21:21 stderr sri: just about to do that!
21:21 sri stderr++
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22:20 sri tempire: oh, didn't know about homebrew-alt
22:20 tempire neither did I before trying to find the proof to backup my statement
22:23 sri damn, also no mod_fastcgi
22:31 tempire sounds like a pull request!
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