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Hinrik |
http://blog.kraih.com/mojolici[…]-the-day-anyevent |
| 00:14 |
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Hinrik |
the only thing this code does on my system is to print a Mojolicious usage message to the terminal |
| 00:15 |
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Hinrik |
Debian Lenny system running Perl 5.12.4, Mojolicious 1.98, libev4-4.04-1, and AnyEvent::IRC 0.96 |
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tempire |
test |
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tempire |
test 2 |
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tempire |
test 3 |
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tempire |
test 4 |
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tempire |
Hinrik: works for me |
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Hinrik |
:( |
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tempire |
test 5 |
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tempire |
test 6 |
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grim_fandango |
I'm using Mojo to interface with a payment gateway. The results come back as a URL encoded string. Should I be using Mojo::Util::url_decode to get at those or is there a better way? |
| 01:27 |
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tempire |
Hinrik: are you going to localhost:3000/? |
| 01:27 |
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tempire |
or directly to /events |
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MojoGuest139 |
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| 01:27 |
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Hinrik |
tempire: I'm running the code as is, and the program prints a usage message and then immediately exits |
| 01:28 |
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tempire |
how are you starting the lite app? |
| 01:28 |
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Hinrik |
perl code_from_blog_post.pl |
| 01:28 |
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tempire |
ah. you need to use the development server |
| 01:28 |
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tempire |
morbo code_from_blog_post.pl |
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MojoGuest967 |
From: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]cQiHSR4Jtk6MuyE5A (1 hits) |
| 01:28 |
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Hinrik |
oh, right |
| 01:29 |
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Hinrik |
that does the trick |
| 01:29 |
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tempire |
excellent |
| 01:31 |
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crab |
http://www.basho.com/news_riak_v1_0.php => "Error establishing database connection" |
| 01:31 |
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crab |
such sweet irony |
| 01:31 |
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Hinrik |
or, hm, maybe not |
| 01:31 |
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tempire |
lulz |
| 01:31 |
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tempire |
that's what they get for using php. |
| 01:32 |
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Hinrik |
"morbo code_from_blog_post.pl" runs, but outputs nothing |
| 01:32 |
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Hinrik |
and there's nothing on localhost:3000 |
| 01:32 |
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Hinrik |
gah |
| 01:32 |
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Hinrik |
oops |
| 01:33 |
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tempire |
there's either something wrong with code_from_blog_post.pl or with your mojolicious installation |
| 01:33 |
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Hinrik |
hm, thought I was using the wrong morbo binary, but no |
| 01:34 |
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Hinrik |
there's a pebkac in there somewhere |
| 01:34 |
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Hinrik |
just gotta find it |
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tempire |
at least the basho site is just timing out now. better than a database error message. |
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cfedde |
should I expect the example in the http://mojolicio.us/ "Getting Started" section to work? |
| 02:22 |
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tempire |
you should |
| 02:26 |
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cfedde |
I must have made some mistake. second cut-n-paste try works as expected. |
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crab |
hi cfedde. |
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cfedde |
hey crab. |
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MojoGuest177 |
hmvbmb |
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* sri |
yawns |
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MojoGuest785 |
/j caca |
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sri |
wow, kindle fire for just $199 |
| 14:07 |
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sri |
guess amazon expects to make most money with content |
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judofyr |
sri: any reason the session cookie isn't HttpOnly? |
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sri |
judofyr: not that i know of |
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sri |
wtf |
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sri |
you can only preorder the non touchscreen kindle for 99 euro in germany… what a ripoff |
| 15:26 |
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judofyr |
that's probably the one without "Special Offers" |
| 15:26 |
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sri |
it's the one that costs $79 |
| 15:27 |
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judofyr |
hm |
| 15:27 |
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judofyr |
:( |
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sri |
same in the uk store |
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crab |
hi |
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purl |
hi, crab. |
| 16:00 |
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* sri |
waves |
| 16:02 |
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metaperl |
I think my smartphone has kindle functionality |
| 16:03 |
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metaperl |
do you support a soccer team sri? |
| 16:04 |
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sri |
nope |
| 16:08 |
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jmmills |
anyone know of any examples/snippets of implementing chunked transfers in mojo? |
| 16:08 |
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jmmills |
i.e. file uploads larger than what you would want to keep in memory? |
| 16:09 |
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crab |
what do chunked transfers have to do with file uploads larger than what you would want to keep in memory? |
| 16:09 |
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jmmills |
I'm assuming you would attack it via overloading the asset class in ::Upload |
| 16:09 |
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crab |
mojo writes file-uploaded data to disk if it exceeds a certain size. |
| 16:09 |
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jmmills |
sometimes you don't want to write it to disk |
| 16:09 |
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jmmills |
sometimes you want to pass it to another system like mogilefs or gridfs |
| 16:10 |
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jmmills |
in high utilization systems writing to disk cause major disk churn iowait |
| 16:10 |
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jmmills |
^ not sure if that makes sense, just got up and having first cup of coffee :) |
| 16:10 |
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crab |
ok, so yeah, create a new asset class. (but what does that have to do with chunked transfers?) |
| 16:11 |
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jmmills |
If my knowledge of http is sound (debatable) chunked transfers via POST && PUT allow one to read a chunk of data do something with it and the flush in memory data -> repeat |
| 16:11 |
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jmmills |
there by keeping memory utilization low |
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crab |
what do you want to do if the client sends a non-chunked lump of data? |
| 16:13 |
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jmmills |
I've got some devs at work who are working on a web upload dohicky that needs to write to mogile and they are using python-tornado (tornado doesn't support chunked transfers out of the box)... |
| 16:13 |
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jmmills |
I wanted to do a quick proof implementation in mojo to show them how it's done |
| 16:14 |
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jmmills |
crab, explain? |
| 16:14 |
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jmmills |
it could be that I'm thinking "chunked" means something different than it does |
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crab |
"chunked" is an HTTP transfer-coding where the entity body is sent as chunks of pre-declared size and terminated by a 0. |
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jmmills |
ah |
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crab |
but whether that (or any other) transfer coding is used or not, your mojo app can read the data in pieces and do whatever it wants with it. |
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PerlNinja |
evening mojoistas |
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jmmills |
crab, awesome - I'll write up a snippet and probably blog it |
| 16:21 |
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crab |
sounds good. |
| 16:21 |
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jmmills |
this seems to be a scaling issue that some people don't get |
| 16:21 |
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jmmills |
writing uploads to disk doesn't not scale very well :) |
| 16:22 |
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jmmills |
at least when you are using some "cloud" storage system |
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PerlNinja |
depends, I do it for my app but then again there's a file size limit of 5Mb - and it's not often used so that works... buuuuuut... if you come up with a direct-to-gridfs kind of deal... do bloggerize that because I'll be using it :D |
| 16:25 |
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sri |
i think what you meant to say was streaming, not chunked |
| 16:26 |
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jmmills |
PerlNinja, in my case it's mogilefs which the perl client api supports writing to as IO::Handle - I've never really used mongodb for that so I'm not sure exactly how it works |
| 16:26 |
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jmmills |
although I've been thinking about it a lot recently since there are times in which I don't really need relations but do need to store some data |
| 16:26 |
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sri |
and it's not yet a core feature of mojolicious, can be done, but is hard and there are no examples |
| 16:27 |
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jmmills |
sri, is exploring using a custom asset class for Mojo::Upload the right path to take? |
| 16:27 |
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sri |
the closest you will get to an example it prolly the upload progress tests |
| 16:27 |
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sri |
jmmills: dunno, not tried it |
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MojoGuest305 |
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MojoGuest396 |
/part |
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jmmills |
errg |
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sri |
i'm open for core enhancements to make it easier though |
| 16:28 |
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sri |
in theory we have the infrastructure |
| 16:28 |
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sri |
just not the api |
| 16:28 |
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jmmills |
^ I was errging about the mojoguest thingy I clicked the link and it opened the web irc client |
| 16:28 |
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PerlNinja |
jmmills: mongodb's gridfs basically works like any other collection, instead of get_collection you get_gridfs and insert - using a file handle :/ (drawback of the perl driver), but there's ways around it. Also going to actually require some additions to the mongodb driver to be able to store a file in sections, not as one big lump |
| 16:29 |
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jmmills |
PerlNinja, I've played with it a bit and set it up (some devs at work use it) but I haven't actually implemented anything yet that uses it |
| 16:29 |
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PerlNinja |
then again the mongo perl driver is all sorts of suck ... *eyes sri* .. how's yours coming? :P |
| 16:29 |
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jmmills |
which is why I know next to nothing about it's support in perl |
| 16:30 |
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jmmills |
although mongooose looks like a cool ORM for it |
| 16:30 |
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sri |
PerlNinja: i keep getting distracted by stuff like streaming uploads ;p |
| 16:30 |
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jmmills |
since the way I look at simple collections like that is more of an overgrown object serialization system |
| 16:31 |
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sri |
streaming uploads are a very hard problem, don't be fooled |
| 16:31 |
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PerlNinja |
jmmills: it is in a way, since mongodb itself doesn't enforce any relational integrity, and it's basically the exact way i'm using it. the advantage of mongo though is that when you start getting huge data sets, it's easy to mangle |
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PerlNinja |
sri: i might get around to doing an eventsource plugin by the way, been breaking my head over doing some real-time stuff in my app since we have to support IE but i'm going to tell TPTB that they can shove their IE support... so going to eventsource for a lot of stuff |
| 16:33 |
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sri |
jmmills: https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]ad_lite_app.t#L24 |
| 16:33 |
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sri |
that's the closest you'll get with examples |
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sri |
from then on it's new territory |
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PerlNinja |
cue the twilight zone music... |
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sri |
once a multipart parser enters the picure it should get pretty messy |
| 16:35 |
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PerlNinja |
messy can be good |
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sri |
but i better stop now, before i scare you away from trying :) |
| 16:37 |
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sri |
with a body callback you can get individual chunks of data, but thats before multipart parsing |
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PerlNinja |
hey sri, suppose i have an incoming request that i dispatch into my controller, if i want the controller to then sit and wait for $external_event before rendering output, do i just go render_later and from an AnyEvent callback do the render? |
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sri |
no idea how a custom asset class would work, but with a few core extensions it could be an elegant solution i suppose |
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sri |
PerlNinja: see my recent blog posts ;) |
| 16:39 |
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PerlNinja |
already :P |
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sri |
render_later is only necessary when you have to disable auto rendering |
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sri |
otherwise you can just do nothing and wait until the callback fires |
| 16:40 |
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PerlNinja |
woo, that solves my problem |
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sri |
https://gist.github.com/1105705 |
| 16:41 |
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sri |
more gists about the topic |
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PerlNinja |
okay i was under the impression that you had to render_later in order to get things to work - didn't know you could just hook the callback and wait around for something |
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sri |
render_later is never wrong |
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jmmills |
sri, I sort of see what you mean - a tx hook is a pretty cool solution to data progress though |
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PerlNinja |
yum, ok that at least gets me one step closer to my being able to do rpc calls from the browser over rabbitmq .... then again since i decided IE can get bent, I might as well do it with event source :D |
| 16:42 |
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jmmills |
I'm thinking that I'm going to "trick" mojo into handing me control of the write |
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sri |
jmmills: i can imagine there are many solutions |
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sri |
having a clean standard way to handle streaming uploads would be nice, let me know if you need any additional parser hooks or so |
| 16:45 |
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jmmills |
Well do |
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jmmills |
If I find that I have to write something that may be useful to include in the dist I'll fork on github |
| 16:46 |
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sri |
jmmills: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]treaming_response |
| 16:46 |
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sri |
for the client side there are recipes |
| 16:47 |
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sri |
same message objects, so it should be useful |
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sri |
the problem is much easier on the client side though |
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jmmills |
Actually I'm going to fork the thing anyways |
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jmmills |
I need to follow the use of the file asset all the way back |
| 16:50 |
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jmmills |
but I'm thinking it may be as simple as handing it a different IO::Handle |
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sri |
don't forget the multipart problem |
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sri |
a parsed multipart message is a collection of asset objects |
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jmmills |
hmm |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mo[…]t/MultiPart#parts |
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sri |
not to scare you further, but in theory multipart can be even nested :D |
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sri |
in practice it doesn't really happen, like chunked request content... |
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sri |
http is fun! |
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jmmills |
yeah, I remember getting headaches when dealing with multi-part mime encoded data when dealing with email |
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sri |
the real problem i see is streaming multipart uploads |
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sri |
plain old content is rather easy, you just might have to slurp the first chunk out of an in-memory asset when using a body callback for streaming |
| 17:02 |
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sri |
since end of headers and start of body usually overlap |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]o/message.t#L2144 |
| 17:03 |
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sri |
good example |
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purl |
NO IT IS NOT! |
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sri |
purl: yes it is! |
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purl |
Oh no it isn't! |
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sri |
purl: oh yes it is! |
| 17:04 |
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purl |
Oh No It Isn't! |
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* sri |
bites purl |
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* purl |
bites sri back |
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PerlNinja |
attempt to free unreferenced scalar... onoes... *sigh* time to go gdb'ing again |
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grim_fandango |
How do I extend Mojo's built-in session cookie lifetime? |
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tempire |
amazon is great. they seem to be the only ones that know the only way to be a relevant tablet is social proof |
| 18:00 |
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tempire |
regular people don't even know there are tablets other than the ipad |
| 18:00 |
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tempire |
but they'll know about this |
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PerlNinja |
grim_fandango, $self->sessions->default_expiration() |
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grim_fandango |
Thanks PerlNinja |
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or $app->sessions if you are so inclined |
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and they don't even mention android, which I think is smart |
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feed it a number in seconds |
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tempire: I hate Amazon, they ony sell overpriced outdated tablets down here, and I cant actually purchase the books I want to read because of where I live... I'm good for Indonesian language books but I can't read Indonesian so... yeah :P |
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take a boat over to singapore. |
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they'll have everything you need :) |
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s/boat/plane/ :P |
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the state of passenger ferries down here is so shitty your chances of surviving the trip are about as likely as winning the lottery :P |
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tempire: only americans get the new tablet and touch kindles... |
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Twitter: "#mojolicious is amazing, just made an app to manage 60 #cloud9 instance for students to make development fun:-)" --oroce http://twitter.com/oroce/statu[…]19114754282369024 |
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hi |
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is moving to the USA next year most likely so.. who knows, maybe I'll get to fondle a kindle after all |
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[mojo/master] we support the ietf-16 WebSocket spec - Sebastian Riedel |
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I think I've spent a sick amount of time on glitch today :-/ |
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i better not try it :S |
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still playing, should be sleeping |
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soo cute :-/ |
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"Velociraptor are well known for their role as vicious and cunning killers in the 1990 novel Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton and its 1993 film adaptation, directed by Steven Spielberg, in which they served as the main antagonists. The "raptors" portrayed in Jurassic Park were modeled after a larger relative, Deinonychus." |
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raptor scale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F[…]Vraptor-scale.png |
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deinonychus: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi[…]hus_Scale.svg.png |
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