Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-10-17

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07:21 kjeldahl Any suggestion on Mojo supported server that runs on Windows which is capable of handling more than one simultaneous connections?
07:22 sri all built in servers can do that
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07:24 kjeldahl sri: Oh. Even when one of my handlers jump into a shell performing some long running task? At least log output stops, but I haven't actually been able to verify if it keeps serving request. It should, you're saying?
07:25 sri no, that's a whole different problem
07:25 sri for that you need a multi process server that handles one connection per worker
07:25 sri a lot harder for windows
07:26 kjeldahl Yes, I just found out. :-(
07:26 sri on unix hypnotoad can be configured that way, but on windows you're screwed
07:29 kjeldahl Guess I'll have to implement some "queue long process/periodic refresh" regime then; my current employer just LOVES Windows! I don't.
07:31 kjeldahl Thanks for the info anyway.
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07:41 perlrocks Twitter: "After FW is Mojolicious:: Lite is where I release is easy with dotCloud" (ja) --hisaju01 http://twitter.com/hisaju01​/status/125838855168471040
07:45 perlrocks Twitter: "Iine! ! "Mojolicious in the cloud: Hello DotCloud! - Sebastian Riedel about Perl and t. .." http://t.co/209qJsXa # iine" (ja) --hisaju01 http://twitter.com/hisaju01​/status/125839727558533120
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07:48 GitHub77 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/GQ2FLQ
07:48 GitHub77 [mojo/master] more micro optimizations - Sebastian Riedel
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08:04 sri smart match sure has its problems, but i think i mostly like it
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08:41 marcus I AM SO SMART, I AM SO SMART, S.M.R.T, I MEAN S.M.A.R.T.
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08:43 GitHub102 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/atd7Dg
08:43 GitHub102 [mojo/master] fixed small boundary bug in Mojo::Content::MultiPart - Sebastian Riedel
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08:44 sri !
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08:54 perlrocks Twitter: ""Mojolicious Web Framework - Join the revolution!" Http://t.co/ITjB4WU4" (ja) --ainame http://twitter.com/ainame/​status/125857182150438912
08:54 perlrocks Twitter: "It? sense to update the file does not even move in that Mojolicious starman? :: Lite and did not feel even after reload ..." (ja) --clicktx http://twitter.com/clicktx​/status/125857295736381440
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11:16 GitHub58 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/EgM33g
11:16 GitHub58 [mojo/master] use more Perl 5.10 features - Sebastian Riedel
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11:41 plu those twitter messages sometimes look like they used google translate or any other translation tool
11:41 stephan48 the bot uses google translate for the translation... to english
11:42 plu ah, that explains it :)
11:42 plu so those were japanese or something else?!
11:42 stephan48 look into the (XX) after the message it says which sourcelang came in
11:43 stephan48 in this case japanese
11:43 plu ah! Thanks
11:43 plu now my world makes sense again, more or less :)
11:43 stephan48 but yea the translations often doesnt make sense
11:45 sri japanese and russian translations tend to be the best :)
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11:49 GitHub54 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Sw0n5w
11:49 GitHub54 [mojo/master] use smart match for errors - Sebastian Riedel
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11:50 sri good thing we depend on 5.10.1+
11:50 sri looks like smart match had problems in 5.10.0
12:04 crab wow, this smart match thing looks such a horrendous mess.
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12:26 sri crab: what were you looking at?
12:26 crab perlsyn's "smart matching in detail" section.
12:27 crab oh
12:34 sri yea, so far i'm only using it for simple things where it means less typing
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13:04 marcus +    return if $! ~~ [EAGAIN, EINTR, EWOULDBLOCK];
13:04 marcus 9090 is pretty nice, imo
13:04 marcus will buy again!
13:06 * sri blocks marcus
13:06 marcus good think you don't have ops :o
13:06 marcus thing even
13:07 sri oh noes, we are leaking again
13:11 marcus going to pick up more ram for my mac mini
13:18 marcus 2gb just aint enough for everybody
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13:24 stephan48 sri: maybe 2-3 mojo irc bots on different hosts could work? whoever got op spreads it to other bots, and some humans?
13:25 sri stephan48: i don't care enough
13:25 stephan48 hehe
13:35 sri hmm, think master would be ready for a 2.0 release
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14:02 marty good morning, guten Morgen, bonjour, god morgen, 良い朝, доброе утро
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14:16 perlrocks Twitter: "I quite time-consuming installation of Mojolicious" (ja) --takumi_aki http://twitter.com/takumi_ak​i/status/125938194050064384
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14:18 tessio hello.. I'm having some problem to find Mojolicious-1.97 (the last one that worked with perl 5.8, apparently)
14:18 tessio where can I find it?
14:18 purl it's it!
14:22 tessio ?
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14:49 kmx hi, where is the right place for bugreports related to Mojolicious? https://github.com/kraih/issues (advertised at Mojo's CPAN homepage) does not seem to work
14:50 sri you can report them here or on the mailing list
14:52 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojoli​cious/Guides/FAQ#I_think_i_have_fo​und_a_bug2C_what_should_i_do_now3F
14:53 kmx sri: well, I have some troubles on Mojo + MS windows
14:53 kmx simple command: mojo get http://www.google.com
14:53 stephan48 sri: why you killed the issue tracker?
14:53 sri stephan48: because people abused it for support requests
14:54 kmx fails with setsockopt() on closed socket .... Mojo/IOLoop/Client.pm line 87
14:55 sri kmx: i don't think reporting that here will go anywhere, maybe a detailed post to the list
14:55 kmx + some "uninit value" warning at Mojo/IOWatcher.pm line 19
14:56 kmx ok, have you (or anybody else here) heard about this kind of troubles from another Win users?
14:56 sri also make sure to try master first, a lot has been fixed there recently
14:56 stephan48 kmx: win ver? mojo ver?
14:56 sri windows users are always in trouble
14:56 kmx Windows 7 Ultimate, strawberry perl 5.12.3/32bit, Mojo 1.99
14:56 stephan48 i could test it at home in a few min
14:57 stephan48 ok i got 5.10.1
14:57 sri but seriously, try master
14:57 kmx stephan48: thanks
14:57 kmx sri: ok
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15:01 sri hmm, not sure 2.0 can really wait a few more weeks for the mongodb driver :/
15:01 crab time-consuming installation of mojolicious? i wonder what they were doing.
15:01 kmx sri: with Mojo from master I have the same error
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15:02 sri kmx: ok, then you're screwed
15:02 sri http://www.cpantesters.org/distro​/M/Mojolicious.html#Mojolicious-1.99 # really not our best release
15:02 kmx sri: FYI - master testsuit fails on MS Win - upload_lite_app.t
15:03 sri kmx: don't say "fails on ms win"
15:03 sri generalizing like that is silly and useless
15:03 sri be specific
15:04 kmx sri: ok, I am still on the same box - Windows 7 Ultimate, strawberry perl 5.12.3/32bit
15:05 sri sounds like a strawberry bug though
15:05 sri last few releases were pretty miserable
15:05 sri these days i'm sugegsting activeperl again
15:05 kmx sri: ok, could be (strawberry bug)
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15:09 kmx sri: the test failure with Mojo/master under activeperl 5.12.1
15:09 kmx sri: again Windows 7 Ultimate
15:10 sri ok, could be a general 5.12 problem on windows
15:10 kmx sri: but the failure I have mentioned at the beginning does not occur with activeperl
15:13 kmx to sum up: current Mojo/master has 1 failing test on both activeperl, strawberryperl - the issues with (simple: mojo get http://...) I have mentioned at the beginning occurs just in strawberry
15:14 sri i think 5.10 and 5.14 work on windows
15:16 sri as far as i'm concerned it's a perl bug
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15:16 sri but feel free to propose workarounds
15:20 sri hmm, think i'll release 2.0 now :o
15:23 crab sri: sounds good
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15:39 perlrocks Twitter: "[Mojolicious] is 1.98 or later and without a Pass at 5.8 miles. How was the error Tokaiu nesting of regular expressions. Let's look at the weekend. http://t.co/W06Wjci0" (ja) --purasiibo http://twitter.com/purasiib​o/status/125959008182992896
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15:45 perlrocks Twitter: "If you can build an environment of their choice freely, Amon2 or Mojolicious:: Lite + Teng + Text:: create Web services Xslate." (ja) --amari3 http://twitter.com/amari3/​status/125960681597042688
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15:46 GitHub153 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/CURD-g
15:46 GitHub153 [mojo/master] small name change in Mojolicious::Lite - Sebastian Riedel
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15:47 * sri starts writing the announcement
15:55 crab sri: so your mongo driver is making progress again? and you're going to ship it with mojo?
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15:56 sri crab: what gave you that impression? Oo
15:56 sri i've been thinking about delaying 2.0 a few more weeks because the driver is *not* ready
15:58 sri well, the driver is only a spare-spare time project
16:07 crab sri: if it weren't making any progress, i thought you wouldn't even be thinking in that direction
16:08 crab but now i understand, and i agree that it's worth releasing 2.0 without delaying it for this
16:10 marcus I'm a little tea pot short and stout, here is my handle, here is my spout.
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16:16 Vandal why it does not working? $self->render(template => 'guide', partial => 1)
16:21 crab something must be wrong
16:23 Vandal it was my first clue
16:23 sri and 2.0 is tagged
16:24 marty sri++
16:26 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 by SRI - http://t.co/DM6dYCTT" (ms) --cpan_new http://twitter.com/cpan_new​/status/125970994887270401
16:28 Vandal i have template guide.html.ep with my other templates, but this $self->render(template => 'guide', partial => 1) does nothing
16:28 Vandal no errors, no any output
16:29 crab Vandal: what do you expect it to do?
16:29 Vandal it should return a string
16:29 crab oh, so that's what you meant by output. fine.
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16:29 Vandal yes
16:30 driller_work what is the suggested deployment method for deploying your app on apache? is mod_proxy a prefered method?
16:30 crab driller: sure.
16:31 metaperl|2 driller_work: I got along just fine with ScriptAlias
16:31 metaperl|2 CGI was plenty fast
16:32 driller_work It just feels odd having my website ran through "perl ... daemon" -- but maybe its just me?
16:32 driller_work I do that and then link it up to a domain using mod_proxy
16:33 crab *shrug* so use hypnotoad
16:33 driller_work pros/cons with using hypnotoad?
16:33 metaperl|2 what's wrong with just CGI?
16:34 crab metaperl: are you serious?
16:34 sri what is not wrong with CGI? :D
16:34 driller_work I've never used CGI, never liked the sound of it either in the sense of how it works with apache
16:34 metaperl|2 crab:  I am serious. cgi works just fine for me at http://www.elcaminoclaro.com
16:34 driller_work feels like a B-method of getting shit on the web hehe
16:34 metaperl|2 driller_work: the _sound_ of it?
16:35 driller_work s/sound/look
16:35 crab metaperl: google for "what is wrong with cgi" and read the last ten years of experience about what is wrong with CGI
16:35 metaperl|2 I like cgi because I can edit and dont have to restart apache like with mod_perl
16:36 metaperl|2 there were no caveats in the mojolicious docs about ScriptAlias and mojo ... and it works fine for me
16:36 crab ok. there are no problems with cgi. cgi for everyone!
16:37 driller_work I'll take a look at the options and see what suits me the best, thanks :)
16:38 driller_work another thing I do wonder though, is it normal that you have to restart your app in order to show the changes you may have done to any of your templates?
16:38 crab yes.
16:39 driller_work thanks
16:39 crab except in the case where the template you changed has never been used before.
16:41 driller_work thats good to know!
16:41 marty Vandal: do not forget to capture the partial rendered result and display it.
16:43 Vandal marty, what do you meen by "capture"?
16:44 Vandal like this? $message = $self->dumper($self->render(template => 'guide', partial => 1));
16:45 marty Vandal:  Like this...   http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guid​es/Rendering#Partial_rendering_28_partial_29
16:45 cosimo metaperl|2: if cgi works fine for you, then just use it
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16:46 metaperl|2 cosimo: amen brother
16:47 Vandal marty, can't see the difference
16:48 crab what's in guide.html.ep?
16:50 Vandal http://pastebin.com/iHTTsZ1M
17:00 Vandal i've delete ", partial => 1 " and see that it renders the default controller's teplate, 'template' key just ignoring
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17:03 crab sure you haven't misspelled it?
17:03 marty Vandal: git://gist.github.com/1293095.git
17:06 marty Oopps, sorry.  Here is the url.   https://gist.github.com/1293095
17:06 Vandal crab, I've did copy/paste
17:12 Vandal marty, why?
17:12 crab strange. what's in your stash?
17:14 Vandal http://pastebin.com/t96juXw5
17:20 perlrocks Twitter: "#mojolicious 2.0 released, #perl real-time web framework. http://t.co/wc61Fve3 http://t.co/mjsNFAVC" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/125984512055320576
17:20 sri http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3121403 # upvote!!!
17:21 * sri pokes tempire, marcus, crab, rhaen and everybody else who might be awake :)
17:22 perlrocks Twitter: "It became mojolicious 2.0" (ja) --mamemomonga http://twitter.com/mamemomon​ga/status/125985008551866368
17:22 sri hmm, i did not plan this through
17:23 marcus yah
17:24 marty upvote complete
17:25 sri \o/
17:26 sri hmm, still 1 point
17:26 marcus I also upvoted
17:27 marcus maybe they hate votes from direct links
17:27 perlrocks Twitter: "Sebastian Riedel (sri): Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/vRfHyKJs" --perlironman http://twitter.com/perlironm​an/status/125986243854077952
17:27 sri weird
17:27 marcus don't even see you in the news list
17:27 marcus on hn
17:27 sri unless you're both green they must have a new system in place
17:27 marcus ah, there you are, #7
17:28 marcus with 1 point :-/
17:28 marcus I have 126 karma
17:28 marcus not exactly awesome but..
17:28 sri yea, weird
17:28 * marty is green. :(
17:29 * sri pokes tempire and crab again (harder)
17:29 crab ow
17:30 crab what are you poking me for?
17:30 sri upvotes
17:30 * sri pokes some more
17:30 * sri breaks poke stick :/
17:33 marcus slave driver!
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17:34 * sri puts poke sticks on his amazon wishlist
17:35 sri hmm, almost gone from first page now, too bad
17:38 yko sri, congrats!
17:38 sri thanks mr yko
17:39 * yko upvotes at hackerne.ws
17:39 sri oh, now it has two points
17:40 yko and at reddit
17:42 tempire upvoted
17:42 sri oh, that will be close, 4 points and one the lower half of the first page
17:42 * tempire bonks sri on the head for not coordinating upvotes
17:43 sri :(
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17:43 sri yea, not gonna happen again
17:44 perlrocks Twitter: "Woohoo, Mojolicious 2.0! Congratulations @kraih! Whats next?" --ykorshak http://twitter.com/ykorshak​/status/125990499621421056
17:44 sri DISNEYLAND!
17:44 purl disneyland is, like, DOWN
17:44 yko :D
17:45 yko really glad Mojolicious reached 2.0
17:45 tempire I'm glad too, so work can resume on the mongodb o{d,k}m
17:46 sri yea, will take some pressure off me
17:46 perlrocks Twitter: "Can't wait for the Mojolicious MongoDB ODM!" --tempiretech http://twitter.com/tempirete​ch/status/125991053743505408
17:46 yko bwahaha! each time i'm finish something big i hope "now i can rest for a while"
17:46 * tempire adds pressure
17:46 yko and every time appears someone who says "yay! you still didn't those and those"
17:46 sri last few days i was swamped with fail reports… that's why i was a little extra grumpy
17:46 perlrocks Twitter: "I wanted to put Mojolicious not work" (ja) --takumi_aki http://twitter.com/takumi_ak​i/status/125991204470005760
17:47 tempire group hug for sri!!!!!one
17:47 yko group hug! yeah
17:47 perlrocks Twitter: ""T / mojolicious / websocket_lite_app.t ......... 26/78" will not advance during the test? ? ?" (ja) --takumi_aki http://twitter.com/takumi_ak​i/status/125991308593606658
17:47 * marty feels all warm and fuzzy inside
17:47 tempire does an upvote from someone with higher karma count more?
17:47 sri no idea, the system seems to have changed
17:48 tempire I'm surprised no one really complained about 510.
17:48 tempire not like a year ago, or even 6 months ago.
17:48 sri yko: yea, it's a vicious cycle
17:49 sri TO WIN IS NOT TO PLAY!
17:49 tempire the example links in the blog post are great.
17:49 tempire really shows how active development is
17:50 sri not sure yet how to demonstrate object events
17:50 tempire what are the most useful events, do you think?
17:51 sri "start" in user agent and the transaction/message ones
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17:52 elb0w_ How do you guys usally seperate out your queries when using something like DBI? When I was using a lite app I just used helpers and that was a pretty clean solution. But now swapping to a large app it doesnt feel as elegant
17:52 elb0w_ Should I just write my own package and wrap all calls?
17:53 sri https://gist.github.com/1278296 # it's basically plugins for the user agent
17:53 sri https://gist.github.com/1278413 # this was my first server side example
17:54 sri it's similar to the old callbacks, but plugins can just safely add as many as they like
17:54 sri a subscriber system
17:55 sri the "message" event of websocket connections can also have many subscribers now
17:55 sri it's really a new dimension for extensions
17:58 rdesfo I tried to upgrade to 2.0 by reinstalling mojo and I'm getting this error.  Any one know how to resolve this?  https://gist.github.com/1293266
17:59 sri what is cpnmin.us?
18:00 tempire lulz.  that would be a great domain to squat on, and serve random modules from.
18:00 tempire or serve Task::Kensho for every request.
18:01 * tempire laughs maniacally
18:01 sri lol
18:01 sri or just serve a rm -rf /
18:01 sri maybe a rickroll
18:02 tempire I want an ascii video driver.
18:02 tempire something that translates video into an ascii representation.
18:02 tempire converter, I guess
18:02 sri i think someone made a ruby module for rickrolling
18:02 sri on the terminal
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18:03 crab tempire: mplayer can do aalib output
18:03 sri for a common rails typo
18:06 perlrocks Twitter: "#reddit Mojolicious - Perl real-time web framework: submitted by  perlgeek  [link] [comment] http://t.co/T8JAwJSs #rulez" --REDDITSPAMMOR http://twitter.com/REDDITSPAM​MOR/status/125996114183864320
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18:08 sri wonder if i could delete the hackernews post and let someone else try again ;p
18:08 tempire I'll try, but only if there are 5 people ready to upvote immediately.
18:09 tempire ROLL CALL
18:09 sri o/
18:09 xantus[] hey
18:09 xantus[] what post
18:09 purl i heard post was Parrot Opcode Syntax Tree or for changing data and uncacheable
18:10 sri ok, so i delete it now?
18:11 tempire not until 5 people
18:11 xantus[] I'm excited about Mojo::EventEmitter
18:11 tempire no sense in leaving your tweet with a dead link unless there's a reason
18:11 xantus[] I'm going to use it with Ignite
18:11 perlrocks Twitter: "#mojolicious 2.0 released, #perl real-time web framework. http://t.co/wc61Fve3" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/125997483255013376
18:12 xantus[] ugh, give me the url to that hacker news post
18:12 sri nonono
18:12 sri wait for resubmit ;p
18:12 tempire xantus[]: wait, save it for the new post we're coordinating.
18:12 xantus[] kk
18:12 * sri pokes marcus
18:12 marcus ooh
18:12 * tempire pokes workplace peers of marcus
18:12 sri i guess marty is still green
18:13 marcus tempire: it's past workplace time
18:13 sri anyway, it's deleted now
18:13 sri i'm ready to vote and tweet :)
18:15 * sri shoves tempire
18:15 tempire xantus[], marcus, sri.  that's only 3
18:15 sri crab too
18:16 xantus[] oh, I'll log into hackernews in prep
18:16 sri i'm sure elb0w_ has an account too
18:16 tempire waiting on crab's affirmation.
18:16 tempire the problem is people say they will, but then wait 10 minutes.
18:17 sri it's like cat herding
18:17 xantus[] I love being able to use my site xant.us for openid, but delegating it to google
18:18 sri oh, we can wake up yko again too :)
18:18 tempire that would make 5.
18:18 yko ye. where'd I upvote?
18:18 * sri pokes omega
18:18 sri and plu
18:18 sri memowe too
18:19 tempire yko: hang tight, waiting on a couple people.
18:19 yko direct marketing at work, hehe
18:19 sri diegok: you too!
18:19 purl ohhh oh oh, the sweetest thing...
18:20 sri tempire: don't we have 5?
18:20 tempire we have yko, marcus, sri, and xantus[]
18:20 tempire crab has disappeared
18:20 yko 1
18:21 sri maybe cosimo
18:22 sri DaTa is never offline either
18:22 tempire If we could get everyone to be at the computer at the same time, there's no question we'd get the top spot.
18:23 xantus[] http://jsmad.org/
18:23 sri yea, it's a gamble
18:25 crab i wonder if i even have an HN account
18:25 mercutioviz pardon the n00b questions... is there a programmatic way to display which version of mojolicious i have installed?
18:25 yko you have to teach purl and perlrocks how to upvote in the right way
18:25 yko mercutioviz, mojo version
18:25 sri purl: can you upvote?
18:25 purl wish i knew, sri
18:25 mercutioviz yko: thx
18:25 crab all this "perfect storm" voting seems silly to me though
18:25 sri crab: it works though
18:25 sri tempire: 5!
18:25 purl 120
18:25 yko crab, who cares about your opinion! :D
18:26 tempire it's silly until you have something you want to be popular
18:26 tempire ok, everyone have a hacker news account?
18:26 sri locked and loaded
18:26 * yko logged in  and taking cursor iver 'upvote' button
18:26 tempire sri: give me the exact text, I closed the original post.
18:27 crab wait, where do i find this thing to upvote?
18:27 sri Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework
18:27 tempire crab: I'll post the link
18:27 crab ok
18:28 tempire sri: and the url?
18:28 purl the url is their database internal unique identifier.
18:28 sri http://blog.kraih.com/mojolicious-​20-released-perl-real-time-web-fr
18:28 perlrocks Twitter: "Whoo! http://t.co/N7zf1vUA  If you think #Perl is lame, check out Mojo.. Very nice." --reyjrar http://twitter.com/reyjrar​/status/126001616515117056
18:28 crab mojolicious 20!
18:28 tempire ok GO!
18:28 tempire http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3121749
18:28 tempire marcus crab xantus[] sri yko
18:29 tempire GO GO GO GO
18:29 yko done
18:29 perlrocks Twitter: "And don't forget to vote for #mojolicious on hackernews. http://t.co/PzdGjLWA ;) #perl" --kraih http://twitter.com/kraih/status/126001800942858240
18:29 sri go go go
18:29 * sri pokes crab and marcus
18:29 tempire 2 people are slacking!!!!!
18:29 yko only 3 points yet
18:29 marcus I did it, I did it
18:29 yko c'mon!
18:30 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/uXXuV0tK" --HackerNewsFP http://twitter.com/HackerNews​FP/status/126002044313149440
18:30 tempire crab and xantus
18:30 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework: http://t.co/m5uc8nSx Comments: http://t.co/lwqdVUrQ" --HNTweets http://twitter.com/HNTweets​/status/126002046762631170
18:30 crab tempire: i did it apparently before anyone else (since when i reloaded /new it said 2 points)
18:30 tempire as long as you don't see the up arrow anymore, it's all good
18:30 tempire xantus!
18:30 tempire xantus[]!
18:30 purl i heard xantus[] was (see:xantus)
18:30 * mercutioviz is signing up for clickpass.com
18:31 xantus[] I clicked
18:31 tempire we're on the first page.
18:31 tempire two from the bottom, though.
18:31 yko but at the bottom
18:31 purl at the bottom is "recent activity".
18:31 xantus[] We're #2 on new
18:32 tempire sri, post on google+?
18:32 sri tempire: you post i repost?
18:32 sri so weird how this hackernews frontpage thing works
18:32 sri hmm, i actually have to search for my google+ login :S
18:33 DaTa what should I do? :)
18:33 xantus[] haha, Glen's just popped in after I posted
18:33 sri DaTa: vote! :)
18:33 tempire DaTa: upvote on http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3121749
18:33 sri and up to #18
18:33 tempire #18!  Movin on up!
18:33 sri \o/
18:34 tempire keep it going!
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18:34 DaTa have to remember my login first :)
18:34 mercutioviz #13 now
18:34 tempire xantus[]: excellent idea on posting your perl circle
18:34 xantus[] thanks, it seems to have taken off
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18:34 tempire probably the most effective way of connecting perl folks ever
18:34 yko somebody, please give  sri +o
18:34 xantus[] I never knew there were hundreds of g+ perl people
18:35 yko this channel needs dictatorship
18:35 tempire no!  I've taken over!
18:35 mercutioviz hehe
18:35 xantus[] haha
18:35 tempire mercutioviz: have you upvoted?
18:35 mercutioviz yessir
18:35 tempire \o/
18:35 marcus power to tempire!
18:35 sri I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR COOKIE LOVING OVERLORD!
18:36 * xantus[] lines up a sniper shot at tempire
18:36 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework: Comments:" --YCHackerNews http://twitter.com/YCHackerNe​ws/status/126003673640873984
18:37 sri #10 :)
18:37 marty Even though I am green on hackernews I just added a comment.  Hope it helps.
18:37 sri marty++
18:38 mercutioviz hmm, i think i'm gonna have to start using this YCHackerNews thing for our FreeSWITCH announcements...
18:38 sri oh #4
18:38 tempire guess I shouldn't repost my comment since I'm the poster.
18:38 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework  (Discuss on HN - http://t.co/0yVkGmPb) http://t.co/3IGDxKwm" --hnbot http://twitter.com/hnbot/status/126004222490722305
18:38 sri what's that new comment there Oo
18:38 sri http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3121749
18:39 tempire this is my comment if anyone wants to post and/or rephrase in their own words "The available feature set, the ease of install, and the active pace of development is amazing.  Mojolicious is in a class by itself, for any language."
18:39 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/JTVFQZZ3" --phwd http://twitter.com/phwd/status/126004420289900544
18:40 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: real-time Perl web framework http://t.co/RGx4wl7o # blog # kraih" (es) --hackernewz http://twitter.com/hackernew​z/status/126004574476713984
18:41 DaTa Bad OpenID login.
18:42 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework:  http://t.co/kVPkIPca" --hnfirehose http://twitter.com/hnfirehos​e/status/126005140875526144
18:43 perlrocks Twitter: "sri++ because #mojolicious 2.0 looks tasty!" --perlninja http://twitter.com/perlninj​a/status/126005413362663424
18:43 tempire It would be cool if the poster could see the usernames of the people who upvoted
18:46 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/moTTbl1i" --HNComments http://twitter.com/HNComment​s/status/126006079137128448
18:47 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious Mojocast #3: Authentication, Helpers, and Plugins: http://t.co/L4BTsLrl" --mercutioviz http://twitter.com/mercutiov​iz/status/126006546781061120
18:47 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/C3cGtZU5" --wftiandfriends http://twitter.com/wftiandfrie​nds/status/126006549616394240
18:48 tempire dropping
18:48 tempire from 4 to 6
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18:48 MojoGuest50 From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (30 hits)
18:49 tempire lulz.  DaTa, looks like the dancer folk aren't up-to-date with the meme.
18:49 mercutioviz to whom it may concern: the mojocasts are fantastically done. I'm looking forward to more of them. :)
18:49 sri tempire++
18:49 tempire me++ !
18:50 tempire I'm having trouble coming up with a concise way to describe sessions/stash/flash.
18:50 sri hah, i had the same problem
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18:50 sri still not happy with the little login example from the growing guide
18:50 tempire using authentication for the example is kind of cluttered.
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18:51 tempire requires too much boilerplate, dipping into other topics.
18:51 sri kinda like the counter example from the lite tutorial
18:51 xantus[] retweeted
18:51 sri tempire: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc​/Mojolicious/Lite#Sessions
18:51 tempire oh, back up to 5!
18:51 sri it's quite new
18:52 perlrocks Twitter: "# Mojolicious rose to 2.0" (ru) --dolbanavt http://twitter.com/dolbanav​t/status/126007574146461697
18:52 tempire I'm mostly concerned about flash.
18:52 xantus[] strange, my retweets didn't pop up
18:52 xantus[] maybe I have to actually tweet them
18:52 tempire retweets aren't caught by perlrocks
18:52 xantus[] lame
18:52 xantus[] I blame twitter
18:53 tempire they used to be, but the channel went crazy during a new announcement
18:53 xantus[] ahh
18:53 tempire #3!
18:53 sri trust me, you don't want retweets here :D
18:54 sri like 99% i see in the bot stream is "(RETWEET, IGNORED)"
18:55 perlrocks Twitter: "HNews: Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/CPWDw8Uj" --tek_news http://twitter.com/tek_news​/status/126008354748366848
18:55 perlrocks Twitter: "“@kraih: #mojolicious 2.0 released, #perl real-time web framework. http://t.co/Z9U0ngY5”" --sharifulin http://twitter.com/sharifuli​n/status/126008358233849856
18:55 tempire mojolicious posts on hacker news need more lengthy comments.
18:56 xantus[] https://github.com/xantus/ignite
18:56 xantus[] click Watch :)
18:56 xantus[] It's a mojo event bus being built
18:56 tempire already watching
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18:57 xantus[] It'll have hook.io, and webhooks
19:00 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/f2rpN2fn (http://t.co/gZqt0jG7) #trending" --newsyc20 http://twitter.com/newsyc20​/status/126009593712230400
19:02 tempire bam!  #2!
19:03 * sri needs pizza
19:05 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/G7bad5GR" --newsycombinator http://twitter.com/newsycombin​ator/status/126010852397694976
19:07 xantus[] no one clicked watch, except tempire, he's already watching
19:07 xantus[] bbl, lunch
19:08 perlrocks Twitter: "mojolicious 2.0 is here! http://t.co/CZjumyLb  thanks to @kraih and team #Perl" --chayapathi http://twitter.com/chayapath​i/status/126011604579008512
19:08 sri xantus[]: i clicked
19:10 tempire so close to #1.
19:10 xantus[] https://github.com/xantus/ignite/watchers
19:12 elb0w_ you know you are doing something right when perl almost makes it to #1 on HN
19:12 xantus[] http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/
19:13 tempire if we can get it to #1, that'll be twice.
19:14 elb0w_ Dude this mount shit is awesome
19:14 elb0w_ wow
19:14 elb0w_ so cool
19:15 xantus[] I use them for plugins
19:16 xantus[] they're pretty sweet
19:16 elb0w_ seems awesome
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19:17 MojoGuest790 From: http://www.google.ro/search?gcx=w&sourcei​d=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=html5+irc+client (1 hits)
19:17 sri we've actually been #1 on hackernews a few times before :D
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19:18 tempire when?
19:18 sri 1.0 i think
19:19 sri my perl 5.16 post doesn't count i guess
19:19 sri one of your mojocasts was #1
19:19 tempire yeah, that's the other one I was talking about.
19:19 tempire so twice thus far.
19:19 sri 1.0 was too
19:20 sri and i think sunglasses
19:20 tempire hmm.  instapaper gets an upvote whenever mojolicious gets an upvote.
19:21 tempire can't hate instapaper, though.  fighting the good fight against an indifferent behemoth opponent.
19:21 * sri upvotes instapaper
19:23 crab hm. using a template without a controller seems rather involved. probably better to avoid.
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19:24 kvorg hi
19:24 purl hola, kvorg.
19:24 kvorg congrats on 2.0!
19:24 kvorg i submitted to slashdot, go poke at it: http://slashdot.org/submission/1820500/​mojolicious-20-modern-perl-for-the-web
19:26 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/I4bvIiDv" --HackerNewsYC http://twitter.com/HackerNews​YC/status/126016175128842240
19:26 kvorg reddit thing is strange, i upvote in perl, see the new points, but the points on the main page (for me, it is #14 now) are different/lower.
19:26 kvorg s/strange/wierd/
19:27 tempire woah, slashdot
19:27 tempire blast from the past
19:28 tempire I stopped with slashdot when I discovered hacker news
19:28 tempire does it have an upvote-type thing?
19:28 MojoGuest248 /part
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19:28 elb0w_ Its how they mirror their systems
19:28 elb0w_ it takes forever to replicate accross on reddit
19:31 kvorg ahh, of course, their "wonderful" amazon setup :-)
19:31 kvorg yeah, i am an old geezer, so slashdot is kewl for me (and i have karma)
19:31 tempire well, I commented on slashdot, if that matters.
19:31 tempire first slashdot comment, ever, actually.
19:31 kvorg you can do the upvote thingy on the firehose
19:32 kvorg tempire: really? where have you been in the 90's? lurking?
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19:32 diegok oh!, I was on a plane for 13hs while you released two point oh!, upvoted on hn now :)
19:32 crab in a util script (think cronjob) does it make sense to just $app = MyApp->new; and then $app->renderer->render($tmpl, a=>1, b=>2)?
19:32 tempire I never looked at the comments on slashdot; they always depressed me as to the enlightenment of humanity.
19:32 tempire same with reddit.
19:33 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework - http://t.co/cpyIMVK5" --Wsibdesign http://twitter.com/Wsibdesig​n/status/126017897620439040
19:33 crab (well, with partial => 1, since i want the output to send mail)
19:33 tempire diegok: firehose?
19:33 purl i think firehose is still on... I just don't look at it
19:33 mercutioviz tempire: ACK that re: comments on ./ & reddit
19:33 kvorg Tasty, I get Mojolicious as #2 on Hacker News ...
19:33 tempire kvorg: call your perl friends, we only need a couple votes in succession to be #1
19:34 marcus Get on the Event bus.
19:34 kvorg it's their reddit-like crowdsourcing replacement for real edditors :-)
19:34 diegok tempire: firehose?
19:34 purl hmmm... firehose is still on... I just don't look at it
19:35 kvorg hm, you are outsourcing your outsourcing to me?
19:35 marcus fire horse
19:36 marcus I just spammed my norwegian tech channels :p
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19:36 crab fire horse? hmm. i'm pretty sure i've read russian folk tales with fire horses in them.
19:36 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework: Comments http://t.co/HOStbIFG #startups #coworking" --BlueDoorLab http://twitter.com/BlueDoorL​ab/status/126018873144262656
19:39 * tempire awaits the flood of norwegians
19:40 perlrocks Twitter: "Oh!, I fucking love the new events api of #mojolicious 2.0 -> http://t.co/LPpyzDrm" --freekey http://twitter.com/freekey​/status/126019699657019392
19:40 diegok tempire: ^ ? :)
19:40 kvorg there's all kinds of love (for Mojlicious)
19:41 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0: Modern Perl for the Web: After a year of rapid development, newly released version 2.0 of Mojol... http://t.co/b6mP66od" --blysscomputers http://twitter.com/blysscomput​ers/status/126019932604481536
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19:42 kvorg w00t, people are retweeting slashdot firehose?
19:42 marcus are we on slashdot now?
19:42 perlrocks Twitter: "#mojolicious 2.0 released http://t.co/5K3oEfV8 congrats to @kraih for hard work!" --gracnar http://twitter.com/gracnar​/status/126020341339406336
19:42 sri what is slashdot?
19:42 purl slashdot is probably played out and full of retards. :)
19:42 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/m1PwGjQt" (zh-cn) --jinnli http://twitter.com/jinnli/​status/126020388135239682
19:43 mercutioviz purl: that's SOOO wrong! (There's no "probably" needed in that sentence. ;)
19:43 purl mercutioviz: what?
19:43 kvorg with time, slashdot became the slow of the news channles
19:43 mercutioviz purl: i was joking. you could have said that without the word "probably"
19:43 purl mercutioviz: i'm not following you...
19:44 mercutioviz slashdot is <probably> played out and full of retards
19:44 mercutioviz vs.
19:44 mercutioviz slashdot is played out and full of retards
19:44 mercutioviz i guess my attempt at humor failed miserably...
19:45 * mercutioviz hangs head in shame and goes back to hacking documentation
19:47 * tempire adds all the perl people who added him in g+ to his perl circle
19:47 tempire g+ really needs set logic in their circle adding.
19:47 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0: Modern Perl for the Web: After a year of rapid development, newly released version 2.0 of Mojol... http://t.co/UzTlwe6F" --techdrops http://twitter.com/techdrop​s/status/126021563844796416
19:47 tempire "add all people who have added me that are also friends with this, this, and this person"
19:48 kvorg humor fails on purl, but purl does not fail on humor.
19:48 tempire well, we're not #1 yet, but we're hanging in their with instapaper.
19:49 tempire *there
19:54 * marty added comments and poked the slashdot post
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19:57 tempire how do you poke a slashdot post?
20:00 marty I assumed that adding a post to a submitted article was synonymous with a poke.  But I could be wrong.
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20:07 kvorg I think it is. And then there is the ubiquitous + next to the news.
20:07 kvorg Posted to OSNews. No poking there, as much as i know.
20:08 * sri posts to 4chan
20:08 elb0w_ So I give a sessionid back when using mojo methods
20:08 elb0w_ if I just create a method above all as an "under" that validates the sessionid and dies otherwise
20:08 elb0w_ that would be cleaner huh
20:10 grim_fandango Congrats on the 2.0 release.
20:10 tempire down to #3.
20:11 sri can't beat the patent trolls
20:11 grim_fandango I upvoted, FWIW.
20:14 sri grim_fandango++
20:14 tempire grim_fandango:++
20:17 mercutioviz so, i see people here do have a sense of humor. how long were you gonna let the n00b talk to the chanbot? :D
20:19 sri i thought you were doing it intentionally :)
20:19 tempire it was a good week or so before I knew for sure that purl was a bot
20:20 mercutioviz over in #freeswitch we have a snarky chanbot and people talk to it/him all the time. it's rather amusing
20:20 crab is #freeswitch about free switches?
20:21 tempire crab: asterisk replacement
20:21 tempire if the bot calls them to talk, I'm impressed
20:21 kvorg submitted to Freshmeat. "Your release has been submitted for verification. This process typically takes less than 24 hours."
20:21 tempire dude, fresh meat!  I haven't looked at that in decades
20:21 mercutioviz FreeSWITCH is like Asterisk, except without the deadlocks, segfaults and other suckage
20:22 kvorg hehe, i specialize on obsolete technologies' (web sites)
20:23 tempire I think the karma does have an effect on what you upvote.  the last mojocast had 6 up votes from people with no karma, and they immediately received -1 karma and the post essentially disappeared
20:23 tempire dropped down to 100+ or so
20:26 sri quite sure it also changes a lot
20:26 perlrocks Twitter: "WAF is a Mojolicious of Perl, and rip Sinatra, very interested to look at it not look like Perl." (ja) --ainame http://twitter.com/ainame/​status/126031382588817408
20:27 sri hmm, posterous seems broken
20:27 sri i can't accept twitter likes, and it won't do it automatically
20:27 elb0w_ I need a Lamborghini Ankonian
20:27 elb0w_ my god
20:27 sri i take one too
20:27 tempire shnikies
20:28 tempire one day, all car manufacturers will realize that all guys really want is their own bat mobile.
20:29 * sri drools
20:31 elb0w_ Things so sick
20:33 tempire forget that.  I want this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA
20:33 purl tempire, I didn't have anything matching that. i want this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6aahtw7ra
20:35 elb0w_ wow
20:35 elb0w_ so sick
20:37 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework http://t.co/28nqCBXQ (http://t.co/jxWj9GRW) #trending" --newsyc50 http://twitter.com/newsyc50​/status/126034009695334402
20:38 tempire well that was quick.
20:38 tempire dropped off the front page
20:38 tempire #39
20:39 tempire something negative must have registered in the ratings system.
20:39 mercutioviz heh, reminds me of what my wife said, something about "it was good while it lasted..." :\
20:43 elb0w_ So question, looking at http://blog.kraih.com/mojoli​cious-hack-of-the-day-groups is it possible that if we return 1 I can pass a value to all the subs under - under?
20:43 elb0w_ ah cool
20:44 elb0w_ er
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20:45 MojoGuest152 From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (32 hits)
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20:46 crab what?
20:47 sri hmm, reddit has better cat pictures than 4chan
20:50 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0 released: Perl real-time web framework - Sebastian Riedel about Perl and the Web http://t.co/8eAZyZxM" (ja) --wPGnews http://twitter.com/wPGnews​/status/126037295185936385
20:52 kvorg hmm perhaps the HeyItsDiogenes person who owns the term "Real Time" and has -15 karma liked the post?
20:53 sri ouch
20:57 perlrocks Twitter: "#opensource #geeks Mojolicious 2.0: Modern Perl for the Web - After a year of rapid development, newly released vers... http://t.co/ciimaGqH" --Kvittrekvitre http://twitter.com/Kvittrekvi​tre/status/126039248133570561
20:59 crab sri: did you see my cronjob question above?
21:00 crab but i guess the answer is just "why are you even thinking about it"
21:00 sri crab: nope
21:00 sri both
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21:01 sri you could use the eval command or a mock server
21:01 kvorg hehe, the slashdot firehose is being retweeted
21:03 sri crab: mojo eval -v 'app->controller_class->new(app => app)->render(foo => "bar", inline => "foo <%= \$foo %>", partial => 1)'
21:03 sri :D
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21:04 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojol​icious/Guides/Cookbook#Embedding # the mock server solution
21:13 crab oh, i don't need to use eval. my cron job is a perl program, i can just create the object and call render.
21:13 crab that's what i'll do. no point trying to use ::Template directly.
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21:17 perlrocks Twitter: "# Linux # opensource # Mojolicious 2.0 http://t.co/a2hXvbAX DhilipSiva" (id) --DhilipSiva_linx http://twitter.com/DhilipSiva_​linx/status/126044079871107072
21:20 tempire someone was looking for an intro to events the other day
21:20 * tempire pokes that person
21:20 * sri raises hand
21:20 tempire this is long.  but it lays it all out.
21:20 tempire http://www.dabeaz.com/coroutines/Coroutines.pdf
21:20 tempire specifically, the re-creating of an "operating system" using python
21:21 sri hmm, i'm more looking for a beginner introduction i can link people
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21:24 GitHub116 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/sikUJg
21:24 GitHub116 [mojo/master] do not use $self for event examples - Sebastian Riedel
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21:28 grim_fandango If I have multiple branches that can end up with different $self->render() outcomes, should I return after rendering or is it only possible to render once in a controller method?
21:29 sri rendering can be rather expansive, i would not suggest doing it multiple times per request
21:30 sri s/a/e/
21:30 grim_fandango Gotchya, thanks.
21:38 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0: Mojolicious is "Duct Tape For The HTML5 Web". It is powerful with no dependencies out... http://t.co/28FAZbMO" --HomemLivre http://twitter.com/HomemLivr​e/status/126049382733856768
21:38 tempire smalltalk or scala?
21:42 sri scala
21:43 tempire I'm concerned that what scala will teach me, I've already learned with erlang.
21:44 sri if it's about enlightenmnet smalltalk of course
21:44 tempire ok
21:44 sri scala feels a lot like perl
21:44 crab tempire: if you're after mental expansion, then definitely smalltalk
21:45 tempire I really dig haskell syntax, but I think I've spent enough time in functional for the moment.
21:45 tempire so smalltalk, then haskell and scala.
21:45 sri it can only get better after prolog syntax
21:46 tempire erlang syntax is definitely a big clunky.
21:46 tempire I love the signature matching, though.
21:46 tempire s/big/bit/
21:47 sri you should also consider something like objective-c
21:47 tempire I learned objective-c a while ago.
21:47 sri oh
21:47 tempire I was creating a mojo::dom port for it.
21:48 sri think i remember :)
21:48 tempire got about 75% through, but my motivation was to create a google::voice library/app for it.
21:48 tempire when google finally released their own, my motivation died.
21:49 tempire was worthwhile, though, I learned all about mojolicious internals
21:49 tempire at any rate, I didn't find obj-c to be particularly enlightening.
21:50 tempire It was the syntax that really killed me, and the painful duplication when connecting controls.
21:50 tempire er, I guess I'm talking more about cocoa than obj-c for that.
21:51 tempire squeak.org: "Bad Gateway".  definitely a bad sign.
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21:52 sri someone wants you to learn haskell
21:54 perlrocks Twitter: "@KasperTidemann still very much in the game - mojo is CPAN's equivalent to Node.js: webservices in one line of Perl." --chrborup http://twitter.com/chrborup​/status/126053501162897409
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22:12 perlrocks Twitter: "A next generation #Web #Framework for the #Perl #ProgrammingLanguage ~ #Mojolicious [ http://t.co/tX7lV1fA ] Hummm!" --mourdok http://twitter.com/mourdok​/status/126057964837666816
22:13 crab bad gateway? they closed the portal behind them after going to the promised land?
22:30 sri :)
22:34 crab yeah, i set MOJO_MODE=testing in t/gadwall.t and see the data templates (exception, not found) in t/testlib/Wigeon.pm
22:34 crab oops
22:49 perlrocks Twitter: "was 2.0 mojolicious. Coup." (ja) --Wizard_1st http://twitter.com/Wizard_1s​t/status/126067375010349056
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23:07 ato Is https://gist.github.com/1294129 meant to be working?
23:09 crab that looks horrifyingly wrong. where did you copy it from?
23:10 crab i think you want $self->plugin(JSONConfig => {...})
23:10 ato I didn't, I'm trying to figure out how to manually configure the JSONConfig plugin in Mojolicious, so all the badness is on my own account (-:
23:10 crab and not $self->plugin('JSONConfig') => {...}
23:11 ato Oh.
23:11 ato Of course.
23:11 purl Indubitably.
23:11 ato crab: Thank you. (-:
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23:12 crab you're welcome.
23:21 perlrocks Twitter: "#Mojocast ~ #Screencast #Mojolicious ~ #Perl #WebFramework [ http://t.co/LzFxChbj ]" --mourdok http://twitter.com/mourdok​/status/126075326563491840
23:41 perlrocks Twitter: "In the forums: He's out version 2.0 of Mojolicious http://t.co/i6NArzi7 # perl" (es) --perlenespanol http://twitter.com/perlenespa​nol/status/126080459552718849
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