Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-10-24

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01:04 sri hmm
01:05 sri i wonder if having the read event automatically disable content parsing was such a good idea
01:06 sri it kinda prevents usage of that event from plugins
01:07 sri why a plugin would want to use that event, i don't know though
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02:43 MojoGuest887 :D
02:43 MojoGuest887 /whois MojoGuest887
02:43 MojoGuest887 hrm
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04:33 metaperl ok
04:34 metaperl what is the standard way within mojo to encrypt a password, store it in a database and then check it for equality once entered in a form?
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05:52 tempire metaperl: it's not a mojo-specific thing.  just do it in whatever way makes sense.
05:52 metaperl true
05:52 metaperl but getting the salt right, etc
05:52 metaperl just figured there would be a cookbook readymade example
05:53 metaperl guess i'll just go with plaintext :)
05:56 tempire metaperl: https://metacpan.org/module/Digest::SHA
05:57 metaperl ok thanks for the link,. time to start solidcoin mining and hitting the sack :)
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06:36 plu metaperl: http://codahale.com/how-to​-safely-store-a-password/ might be worth to read too :)
06:43 plu https://metacpan.org/module/​Mojolicious::Plugin::Bcrypt
06:45 marcus gooood morning #mojo
06:45 plu good morning marcus :)
06:46 marcus I'm having some problems with a hypnotoad app and postgres
06:46 marcus it works lovely on morbo, but when I switch it over to hypnotoad I get BD::Pg::st execute failed: server closed the connection unexpectedly
06:47 marcus wondering if it's an issue with forking
06:48 plu I guess so. I have some dark memories that you shouldnt connect via DBI before forking, but afterwards
06:48 plu but that's all that's left, the dark memory :(
06:48 marcus yeah sounds plausible
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07:06 tempire oooh.  ok, I'm on board with bcrypt now.
07:07 plu :)
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07:21 marcus yupp, pushing dbix-simple init into an attr helped
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07:37 plu cool :)
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09:16 judofyr long time no #mojo
09:16 judofyr what's up?
09:17 Shaeto_ have a question: i need to add interprocess messaging client (TCP client) to my application server (mojo based). it will listen on incoming command and do some work, use IO::Client ? where to start it, on application ::startup ?
09:18 perlrocks Twitter: "@pjcjohnson thanks, I fixed all the issues you mentioned and rewrote the sentence around Mojolicious" --szabgab http://twitter.com/szabgab​/status/128399879809662977
09:20 marcus http://perlweekly.com/archive/13.html - whining works!
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09:26 Shaeto_ interesting how IOLoop works in hypnotoad context
09:53 perlrocks Twitter: "Issue #13 of the Perl Weekly is out http://t.co/ceU7MivP  #perl #Mojolicious #Dreamwidth #LiveJournal #ElasticSearch #Parrot #Rakudo" --szabgab http://twitter.com/szabgab​/status/128408814356664321
09:56 perlrocks Twitter: "Slogan Mojolicious "real-time web framework" to - http://t.co/vIMTWzQl Introduction to Perl with sample code" (ja) --wPerlnews http://twitter.com/wPerlnew​s/status/128409410178527232
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10:26 marcus retweet szabgab everybody ;)
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10:55 * sri yawns
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11:49 marcus why is smartmatch considered broken?
11:50 metaperl plu:  thank you.  i will take a look
12:05 metaperl marcus: I quit using DBIx::Simple and now use DBIx::Array ... this thread documents why - http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=918585
12:30 sri marcus: have you used smartmatch? :)
12:30 marcus sri: nope, but I seem to remember you using it in mojo
12:30 sri yes, but only for simple things
12:31 sri marcus: take a look at http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/pe​rlsyn#Smart_matching_in_detail
12:31 sri :)
12:33 marcus yeah, it's very magical
12:33 marcus unicorn operator
12:34 sri and it was worse in 5.10.0
12:34 sri now you can kinda count on the left side deciding which comparison to use
12:36 sri i love it for simple comparisons like $code ~~ [404, 413], but would be very careful with anything more complicated
12:38 sri marcus: http://markmail.org/message/ojj4yzbilshgugu4
12:39 judofyr sri: that table reminds me of the truth table in PHP
12:39 judofyr http://php.net/manual/en/types.comparisons.php
12:40 sri haha
12:46 sri smartmatch is a good idea though, can make a lot of code shorter and more readable if used right
12:49 perlrocks Twitter: "“@szabgab Issue #13 of the Perl Weekly out http://t.co/DYqh4dt1  #perl #Mojolicious #Dreamwidth #LiveJournal #ElasticSearch #Parrot #Rakudo”" --piwebsolutions http://twitter.com/piwebsoluti​ons/status/128453047964811264
12:59 judofyr too bad most features are rarely used right :/
12:59 judofyr I mean, PHP was only a little template language, and suddenly people started writing forum software??
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14:00 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious 2.0, an interesting web framework for Perl ► http://t.co/EKnJzPBI" (es) --IsiRoca http://twitter.com/IsiRoca​/status/128470838365274112
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14:25 Shaeto_ guys how to run tcp client in hypnotoad context. i have web application server and now i need to run IPC client on mojo platform.
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14:43 perlrocks Twitter: "Mojolicious:: Plugin:: For CSRFDefender, with people making similar modules have been added and many Tsu says, I'm sorry ... What was your mood" (ja) --shiba_yu36 http://twitter.com/shiba_yu3​6/status/128481711536349184
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17:06 sri oh my
17:06 * sri just found a AOL cd
17:11 jwang sri: nice - I used to carry those with me on business trips just in case the hotel didn't have internet service or it was $$$ - nice 30 day free trial
17:16 sri :)
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17:16 sri how times change
17:18 jwang yeah, I'm constantly amazed by how fast some things change (computing) and how other things don't change - flying cars ;)
17:19 jwang PrePAN looks nice and spiffy
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17:42 driller_work AOL cd? hah that's cool!
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18:16 jzawodn jwang: http://www.terrafugia.com/
18:17 jwang jzawodn: yeah, I've heard of one, but those are like MP3 players before the iPod/iPhone ;)
18:17 jwang or tablets before the iPad
18:17 jzawodn oh, you're waiting for iCar
18:18 jwang one that gets mass adoption
18:18 jwang isn't only for early adopters
18:18 sri james bond would be proud
18:19 sri BUT CAN IT SWIM?
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19:18 tempire no
19:18 tempire but it *will* blend
19:20 perlrocks Twitter: "@perl_demon #perl и #Mojolicious там :)" --imdefined http://twitter.com/imdefine​d/status/128551428640866304
19:26 sri \o/
19:26 sri really wonder why apple doesn't care about websockets
19:27 sri not even webkit nightly supports draft-17, they are the last vendor without it
19:47 * metaperl|2 wonders what websockets are and why they matter
19:48 metaperl|2 dont answer that
19:48 * sri sets metaperl|2 on fire
19:48 * mercutioviz hands sri gas can and matches
19:49 metaperl|2 lol
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