Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-11-09

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00:02 tempire marcus: is leah culver evil?
00:03 marcus tempire: not to my knowledge
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07:24 tempire marcus: is sebastian riedel evil?
07:31 crab is marcus some kind of evilness oracle?
07:31 tempire or it's a test
07:31 crab of what?
07:31 tempire EVIL
07:32 bzero Riedel is the next level of evil in the civil web.
07:35 crab cevil web
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08:18 marcus Kraih - why accept the lesser tvil
08:19 marcus Evil even
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09:22 sri \o/
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12:44 sri marcus: what's that tiny display on your desk, an ipad?
12:47 marcus yeah
12:47 marcus it's actually powering the big display
12:47 sri oO
12:48 sri my desk is entirely empty, just a tiny macbook in the middle
12:48 sri (and an iphone in the corner)
12:49 sri actually, my whole bureau is empty, no distractions at all
12:50 sri bureau sounds weird, is office a better word?
12:52 marcus yupp
12:52 marcus we have space invaders in our office now
12:52 marcus on the window towards the common room
12:52 marcus vinyl stickers
12:53 marcus judofyr's desk is about as empty as yours tho.
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13:04 crab i share a desk with my girlfriend, and it's usually piled with all sorts of stuff
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13:05 crab but the idea of a completely empty room with a single desk with a big monitor is kinda nice
13:09 Shaeto is ref($self)->attr(.....) still valid in 2.25 ? i have found article about dbix::class schema access using app->[attr name]
13:09 Shaeto author recommended to use ref($self)->attr( 'XXX' ...) in startup
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13:10 MojoGuest987 From: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1277067 (88 hits)
13:10 crab "still valid"?
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13:10 crab it's perl. you're just calling attr as a class method.
13:10 MojoGuest987 /j #perl
13:11 MojoGuest987 /j #perl
13:11 MojoGuest987 cuil
13:12 Shaeto understand, but i am not sure about ref($self)->attr :)
13:13 Shaeto thats perl magic, why there "ref"
13:14 crab there is no perl magic
13:15 crab ref($self) just returns what kind of reference $self is, which in this case is the name of the class $self is blessed into
13:15 crab you could just as well do __PACKAGE__->attr(...) or something
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13:18 Shaeto ahh, thank you for info
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14:49 tla Hi there, guys!
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14:50 tla I'm going straight ahead:
14:50 marty hi tla
14:50 tla Hi marty
14:50 tla I'm trying to build a proxy (which rewrites some markup) with Mojolicious
14:51 tla Currently I'm browsing the Mojo modules and try to figure out how to accomplish this task...
14:52 tla Since I'm getting a request, I almost don't want to change, I wonder how I can forward that Mojo::Message:Request object to the Mojo::UserAgent?
14:53 tla I see that when using Mojo::Transaction::HTTP one can set the Req object there.
14:53 tla But I guess this is a little further down the object chain, I'd like to go...
14:54 tla Do I have to re-build the forwarded request by hand, when using Mojo::UserAgent?
14:54 tla Anyone got some ideas on this?
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16:31 sri hmm, looks like there are now quite a few more people in the mongodb channel than before the rants :)
16:31 crab so it was a pr stunt by the 10gen people?
16:32 sri doubt it, maybe a desparate attempt by the basho folks
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16:41 crab heh, i thought you liked them (or riak, anyway)
16:41 sri not anymore
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18:42 tempire don't let one guy ruin the whole company for you
18:42 sri marcus: looks like stripe is built around mongodb :)
18:43 sri tempire: it's multiple guys
18:44 sri @roidrage posts snarky comments about mongodb every other day too
18:47 sri i've also had some ux discussions with some of them back when i was still a fan… not very pleasant
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18:49 tempire I wonder if it would be worth it to attend mongo sv as a shortcut to learn how to use it.
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18:52 * tempire needs to take the plunge and finally start using postgres
18:52 sri the talks seem rather good for starting
18:53 sri "Building A First Application on MongoDB"
18:53 tempire only $50
18:53 tempire it comes down to whether I want to ride a motorcycle 3 hours each way to get there
18:54 * tempire looks for screencasts instead
18:55 sri 6 hour motorcicle ride through california sounds like something i would do on a vacation :S
18:55 sri s/i/y/
18:57 tempire perspective changes when it's your only vehicle
18:57 marty stripe.js looks interesting
18:57 sri wish stripe was available on this continent too
18:58 marty Ya, seems like it is only a North America thing atm
18:59 marty It's an idea who's time has come
18:59 marty pci compliance is a bitch
19:00 marty California has some scenic routes for sure.  The drive from Northern California to SFO is not one of them.  :)
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19:54 Sjors Hi
19:54 purl privet, Sjors.
19:54 Sjors I'm trying to get SSL to work, directly in Hypnotoad
19:54 Sjors get this warning during make test (with TEST_TLS enabled):
19:54 Sjors 28/29 (in cleanup) Can't call method "FILENO" on an undefined value at /home/sjors/.cpan/build/Mojolicious-2​.25-VhwDlD/blib/lib/Mojo/IOWatcher.pm line 36 during global destruction.
19:55 sri patches welcome
19:55 purl patches welcome is always true or unless for search.cpan.org or swahili for "Put up or shut up."
19:55 Sjors well
19:55 Sjors the actual problem is one I'm not sure I /can/ patch
19:56 Sjors I've configured Hypnotoad to listen on port 443, https, with the correct paths to the certificates in place, and it also listens correctly
19:56 Sjors but when I connect using my browser, I get this error twice:
19:56 Sjors Read failed: Can't use an undefined value as a symbol reference at /usr/local/share/perl/5.12.4/Mojo/IOWatcher.pm line 74.
19:56 Sjors Mojolicious 2.25
19:57 Sjors then, the browser says the connection was reset
19:57 Sjors I'm not sure if I'm up for fixing it, I have no idea what the problem could be
20:03 Sjors sri: I'm going to try debugging the problem some more from inside the libraries... but I can't promise I'll get somewhere
20:03 sri i think your chances of getting help with that are slim to nonexistent
20:04 sri IO::Socket::SSL is known to be unreliable
20:05 sri (like the test warning demonstrates perfectly)
20:05 sri that warning shows up everywhere btw
20:05 Sjors beh weird
20:06 Sjors sri: I did find out that the problem doesn't happen with the built-in daemon, only with Hypnotoad
20:18 Sjors sri: aahhh
20:18 Sjors sri: Hypnotoad opens the certificate in its childs, they don't have read access
20:18 Sjors sri: this is visible in the SSL_error_trap, imo this error should be printed; would you accept a patch for this (or is this impossible to make?)
20:19 sri don't know
20:19 Sjors sri: and secondly, imo it should load the certificate and key in its main process, like Apache does; it's not weird for the childs to not be able to access the keys which of course should stay hidden
20:19 Sjors maybe I can write a patch for that too
20:25 Sjors sri: do you know by heart what would happen if I emitted an error() event from IOWatcher? Would it be logged somewhere? I'm trying to understand the code without having to read everything at the moment, 'cause I'm in a bit of a hurry to fix this
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21:21 GitHub14 [mojo/master] added experimental upgrade event to Mojo::Asset::Memory - Sebastian Riedel
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23:03 GitHub137 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/LxwdFQ
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23:34 tempire marcus: am I evil?
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