Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-11-28

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01:48 crab what's the preferred presentation-slide-making-thingy du jour?
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01:58 crab huh. looks like s5 is still the thing to use.
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03:31 MojoGuest862 hi
03:31 MojoGuest862 :p
03:33 crab hi :p to you too
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03:37 crab hi.
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05:25 * sri yawns
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06:06 marcus crab: keynote ;)
06:18 * sri agrees with marcus
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06:46 crab a mac thing, i suppose
06:46 crab ah yes
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07:07 marcus very much so :)
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12:28 MojoGuest474 early in the morning.
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12:28 GitHub129 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/XnVsPQ
12:28 GitHub129 [mojo/master] improved CGI and PSGI tests a little - Sebastian Riedel
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16:08 sri looks like a very slow monday
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16:13 cfedde o/~ monday monday,
16:13 cfedde so good to me o/`
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19:54 sri another 160 lines gone :)
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20:14 simengangstad Can anyone tell me why this isnt working? use Mojolicious::Lite;
20:14 simengangstad get '/with_block' => 'block';
20:14 simengangstad app->start
20:14 simengangstad __DATA__
20:14 purl __DATA__ is, like, in perldata
20:14 simengangstad @@ block.html.ep
20:14 simengangstad % my $link = begin
20:14 simengangstad % my ($url, $name) = @_;
20:14 simengangstad <body>
20:14 simengangstad %= $link->('http://mojolicio.us', 'Mojolicious')
20:14 simengangstad %= $link->('http://catalystframework.org', 'Catalyst')
20:14 simengangstad </body>
20:15 simengangstad </html>
20:15 simengangstad what do you mean?
20:17 vervain I'm not seeing an 'end' in the above.
20:18 simengangstad after the html end do you mean?
20:18 vervain something like pastebin would help if you want code review though.
20:19 vervain % my $link = begin .... need an % end somewhere
20:20 simengangstad its in the nine line....
20:20 simengangstad adobe
20:21 vervain I don't follow
20:23 simengangstad if you count from the first line: get '/with_block' => 'block'; and go eigth lines down you see % end….
20:24 vervain Put it into pastebin and then I'll look. pastebin.com
20:25 simengangstad its up there, its name is link
20:25 vervain You copy the pastebin.com url into here.
20:26 simengangstad http://pastebin.com/y32X5Aw0
20:28 vervain That's better... and not what you pasted in earlier.
20:30 sri simengangstad: please don't ever paste into this channel again
20:31 simengangstad why not?
20:31 sri spamming is about the worst thing you can do on irc
20:31 vervain @sri: Paste bin is ok right?
20:31 sri of course
20:31 simengangstad it was pastebin....
20:31 sri you pasted like 12 lines of code
20:32 simengangstad yeah but im a beginner, and ask frendly for help
20:32 vervain That's fair... now you know. :-)
20:32 sri that's why i didn't kick you right away ;)
20:33 vervain I can't see anything wrong there... I'm new to Mojolicious as well and have been putting together a little app while walking through Mojolicisous::Lite docs.
20:33 vervain So I know the example you are testing... I just pasted it from perldoc into my app and it just works.
20:34 simengangstad strange…. Maybe beacause im using textwrangler...
20:36 vervain <shrug>
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20:53 cfedde is there a prefered pastebot here?
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21:06 vervain In Mojolicious::Guides::Routing I don't see any discernible difference between 'Minimal route' and 'Routing destination'... any help with this distinction?
21:08 sri why does there have to be a difference?
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21:12 vervain If they are under different headings one can expect them to have different points to make.
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21:12 sri i don't think so
21:13 sri could just as well be more detailed descriptions of a subset
21:13 tempire cfedde: most people use pastie.org, but there's no associated bot.
21:13 tempire the general rule of thumb is to use the prettiest one
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21:14 vervain If it were me I would s/Routing destination/to() Method/
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21:16 tempire vervain: "minimal route" is a working summary.  "routing destination" is the specific point.
21:16 sri "to() Method" makes no sense in that context
21:18 sri routing destination is a concept that is explained there with the to() method, it can appear in other forms too though
21:18 vervain Alright... I'm just offering the interpretation of a first time reader... take it or leave it.
21:18 vervain Them being at the same heading level.. but appearing to say/describe the same thing makes the second heading level seem confusion to me.
21:19 vervain Sorry... makes the second heading confusing to me.
21:20 vervain After several reads... and your help I think I get your point.  But it's definitely a spot where improvement can be made... Maybe I'll try and offer suggestions when I understand more.
21:23 tempire vervain: your perspective is accepted; though it's tough to hear because beginners usually come in and start demanding doc changes without taking the time to understand why
21:23 tempire but don't worry.  we still love you :)
21:23 vervain I understand.
21:23 vervain Like I say... If I still want it fixed after more understanding... I'll offer up an edit. :-)
21:24 vervain In any case... after two years with Catalyst I'm very pleased with Mojo!!!  It's what I always wanted from Catalyst but never really got.
21:25 tempire yep, for sure.  all the basic stuff that catalyst requires plugins for is just here.
21:25 tempire without the cludge.
21:26 tempire sub resource_GET is just blasphemy
21:26 * tempire grows weak around ugliness
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22:46 vervain Does Mojolicious have anything like the Catalyst auto/end controller methods?
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23:47 crab what are the catalyst auto/end controller methods?
23:51 tempire vervain: if you're using lite: under
23:51 tempire if you're using a full app: bridges
23:55 crab too late, anyway.

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