Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2011-12-04

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00:00 * sri likes it though
00:01 marcus sri: maybe it'll make it into the perl weekly.
00:02 jnap reminds me I promised I'd reblog others more
00:02 marcus sri: I assume most perl hackers use a feedreader anyways.
00:02 sri marcus++
00:08 * marcus & # bedtime
00:27 sri marcus: you should turn the README into markdown and display the jpg in the repo
00:28 * sri needs to sleep too
00:46 vervain very good job guys.... I'll try and spend some 'quality' time with that next week.
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02:09 sri marcus: Test::Mojo is missing
02:10 sri it belongs in the useragent corner
02:10 * sri goes back to sleep
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07:40 marcus sri: nobody puts useragent in th e
07:40 marcus the corner
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08:06 marcus sri: I took the oportunity to make it nice and symetrial as well :)
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10:50 sri marcus: looks great
11:32 sri marcus: Y U NO MARKDOWN
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13:57 marcus sri: markdown?
13:57 purl i heard markdown was at http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ or a text-to-html tool /syntax or http://search.cpan.org/author/BOBTFISH/T​ext-Markdown-1.0.19/lib/Text/Markdown.pm or http://dev.catalystframework​.org/wiki/meta/markdownbugs
13:57 sri marcus: your readme is plain text
13:58 sri you could include the image in a markdown one
13:58 marcus oh
13:58 marcus sure
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14:01 marcus heh, lion fullscreen behavior is soo broken
14:01 marcus I never get back to the fullscreened window that was active the last time if an app has more than one
14:02 sri i actually don't use fullscreen much
14:08 crab i use fullscreen a lot.
14:14 marcus crab: linux console fullscreen?
14:14 marcus http://aurum.tumblr.com/post/90450062​60/the-lion-window-manager-is-broken
14:14 marcus these are the problems I have.
14:17 marcus guess I fail at markdown
14:21 crab marcus: roxterm fullscreen inside X, actually.
14:21 crab so nearly looks the same :-)
14:24 marcus yay, success
14:25 marcus crab: I use iTerm 2 in fullscreen. it looks like this: http://nordaaker.com/docs/skitch/2._D​efault_%28bash%29-20111204-152457.jpg
14:25 marcus and I use focus follows mouse
14:26 sri marcus: sent pull request
14:26 marcus sri: too late
14:26 sri :O
14:26 marcus I'd already fixed it
14:29 sri it's not just the http stack though
14:29 sri left is http, right is io and content manipulation
14:29 marcus true, I just wanted to point out I didn't graph the mvc framework
14:31 crab http://toroid.org/misc/term.png is what mine looks like
14:31 marcus lol
14:32 marcus crab: Don't you find it easier just clicking on the urls? ;-) http://nordaaker.com/docs/skitch/MA​Gnet_IRC_Network_%E2%80%94_%23mojo_​%28111_Users%29-20111204-153213.jpg
14:32 marcus sri: improved the readme
14:32 sri my iphone ssh client looks like that
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14:33 marcus sri: what do you use on the mac now?
14:33 sri be more specific
14:33 crab roxterm actually does make URLs clickable.
14:33 marcus oh, sorry, thought you said iphone irc client
14:34 crab but ircii wraps long urls in a way as to break them
14:34 marcus crab: I remember using xv in the 90s.
14:34 sri ah, still textual
14:34 marcus crab: did it change much? :)
14:34 crab nope. not at all. but i still haven't found a better, less fussy image viewer.
14:36 crab i guess i'm resistant to change :-)
14:36 crab at least when it comes to the software i use day-to-day.
14:37 marcus as long as you are happy :)
14:52 sri https://github.com/kraih/mojo/wiki # i like having the class overview in the wiki, not sure where it fits in best though
15:27 marcus nice
15:36 sri hmm, i've seen more mojolicious slides this year than in 2010… but nobody added theirs to the wiki :/
15:38 marcus there's a wiki?
15:38 marcus :p
15:38 * sri sets marcus on fire
15:38 marcus burn baby, burn
16:00 marty good morning ya'll
16:03 * marty is starting to refactor his mojolicous ecommerce app for the fourth time.   Uhhhhhgggg.  :(
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16:59 crab marty: why are you refactoring it?
17:09 marty crab:  I keep finding fundamental flaws in my design and/or better ways to do things.  But it's all good, I'm still making forward progress, even if it is slow.  As Larry says, I've got the first 80% done.  :)
17:09 crab what kind of flaws are you finding, out of curiosity?
17:13 marty One of "my" big hurdles is/was thinking in document think rather than relational think.  For example, do I embed product variants in the parent or create separate documents for each product.
18:11 sri http://ngenuity.ngmoco.com/2011/11/tree-​based-approach-to-persistence-with.html # oh, ngmoco is now using mongodb
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18:25 sri marcus: btw. what did you not like about linkinus?
18:27 marty very interesting stuff from ngmoco.  I've been going through a lot of the same stuff (on a much smaller scale) as they have.  Nice to know I am not alone.  :)
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19:21 marcus sri: not sure
19:22 marcus sri: I see they have a major new version out.
19:22 marcus sri: Textual is doing a major overhaul of their ui as well tho
19:22 sri textual didn't have an update in ages
19:23 marcus yeah, looking at their git repo, the major overhaul might have stalled
19:23 marcus not many commits there this fall
19:41 sri test
19:41 Quai to quote Artur Bergman on velocity europe; "MongoDB is SHIT" ;P
19:42 sri Quai: what is not shit then?
19:44 sri Quai: also, what specifically about mongodb is shit?
19:47 Quai hey, im just quoting the guy; http://i.imgur.com/u9iKV.jpg
19:47 sri umm
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19:53 Quai http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=oebqlzblfyo#t=12m30s
19:53 Quai ;P
19:54 Quai yes, it is a rant, but he has some good points.
19:59 sri what points are you referring to?
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20:09 * sri tries linkinus
20:19 sri hmm
20:19 sri i really don't like linkinus
20:19 sri the ui feels awkward
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21:32 tempire megazoomer is the best for osx full screen stuff
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21:46 * marty thinks Artur Bergman is shit
21:47 marty well, he may not be shit, but he certainly has nooooo tact
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22:03 sri i like a good rant
22:03 sri what annoys me is people repeating it without actually understanding
22:23 marcus I like artur
22:24 marcus he's getting a bit fat tho :)
22:33 marcus oh, latencytop is a linux specific thing
22:43 marcus wonder if sky gets beat up a lot at conferences =)
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23:22 marty Holy shit! They found a 1.8 ton WWII bomb in the Rhine near Koblenz?  That's scary stuff.
23:22 sri you get used to it
23:23 marty Are you serious?  Is there that many bombs still left?  You'd think after 65 years they would all be gone by now.
23:24 sri lots of them
23:24 purl lots of them are ducted fans.
23:24 * marty had no idea
23:25 marty And I though rattle snakes were dangerous.
23:25 sri happens all the time when they start digging foundations for new buildings
23:26 marty Ya gotta wonder, how the heck does a 1.8 ton bomb get under the dirt?    I guess it just plowed in and did not explode?
23:27 sri about 20% did not explode
23:28 marty wow.  20% of a gazzilion is a lot
23:30 sri i heard 2 explode every year by themselves
23:31 marty A bit unnerving.  Especially for construction workers.
23:37 sri casualties are extremely rare
23:37 sri http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/common​s/2/25/Fundort_Luftmine_04_Koblenz_2011.jpg
23:38 sri but those pictures sure are scary
23:43 sri woah, just looked up some numbers...
23:43 sri apparently there's 1.5 million tons of ww2 ammo in the northsea
23:47 sri in one of our smaller states (schleswig holstein) alone they still find 100000 pieces of ammo every year

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