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memowe |
Hellomojo! :) |
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MojoGuest133 |
From: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa[…]uzUnHhWcD0vcKNULg (1 hits) |
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MojoGuest133 |
hi |
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memowe |
hi! |
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MojoGuest133 |
have you worked on websockets? |
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memowe |
not more than really simple test scripts |
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memowe |
But here are more experienced people. |
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memowe |
Just ask. :) |
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MojoGuest133 |
how can I get connected to the right people who are exploring HTML5 features |
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Quai |
stackoverflow.com might be a goodplace to start, or sites like dev.opera.com and developer.mozilla.org |
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marcus |
MojoGuest133: or just ask some specific questions :p |
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MojoGuest133 |
I am trying to understand the security constraints in WebSockets |
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memowe |
btw, O'Reilly will give me any book because I won some kind of a quiz. Any recommendations? |
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memowe |
I'm thinking of the new llama book for my mom (she learns Perl with me). |
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memowe |
But she'll get it for only 25 bucks, so maybe there are better books for me. :) |
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marcus |
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596521448.do ;) |
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marcus |
I actually enjoyed http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596517748.do |
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memowe |
Hehe, Rails. :) |
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memowe |
OK, I already know JS the good parts. :) |
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memowe |
So my mom gets her llama book. :) |
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memowe |
Thanks marcus! |
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marcus |
lucky mum :) |
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sri |
memowe: the new camel book |
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hep |
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memowe |
sri: too late #camelbook |
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memowe |
btw, O'Really has asked us for some blog posts about my senior mum learning Perl. :) |
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memowe |
I'll suggest using Bootylite via Dropbox. |
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sri |
http://i.imgur.com/pAy4z.png # :D |
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tempire |
I want to work for that company |
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tempire |
2 months before they realized he didn't know anything? |
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ZadYree |
I need help on a problem I am facing: When I open the page I'm working on, the utf8 chars contained in the page are printd properly. However, <%== $content %> doesn't seem to handle utf8 chars. Here is the page code: http://pastebin.com/efF2rGMR |
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sri |
it's either utf8 bytes, or perl chars, not utf8 chars |
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ZadYree |
hum, I don't see how to correct this |
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ZadYree |
since the rest of the page is printed properly |
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ZadYree |
in the .log file, the $content looks great |
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sri |
purl: perl unicode? |
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purl |
wish i knew, sri |
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sri |
purl: unicode? |
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purl |
i think unicode is almost done. Four sections to go. or http://www.joelonsoftware.com/[…]cles/Unicode.html or stable or http://www.fileformat.info/inf[…]e/char/search.htm or ⚑☭Ⓐ or the suck or µñíçø∂∑ or ISO/IEC 10646 or http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/n[…]tos/using_unicode or a large factoid for being a typo |
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sri |
all i can tell you is that templates expect perl characters |
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elb0w |
You know whats awesome |
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elb0w |
I get to use HTML::Template AND mod_perl!!! |
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elb0w |
after using mojo for a month |
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elb0w |
this is going to be so excccccccccccccciting |
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sri |
that's gonna hurt |
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ZadYree |
hum |
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ZadYree |
well, in the html sourcepage, it's the same char (é) for ex |
| 19:09 |
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ZadYree |
encoding a block char by char may make me lose too much perf :( |
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sri |
ZadYree: do you know the difference between chars and bytes in perl yet? |
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sri |
in the context of unicode |
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ZadYree |
not at all |
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ZadYree |
unicode takes 2 bytes |
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sri |
ok, i highly recommend dropping everything and reading tutorials for it |
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sri |
otherwise you'll stumble over this over and over again |
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sri |
we had a really good link to slides for the topic… hmm |
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ZadYree |
okay |
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ZadYree |
the catalyst link doesn't seem to work |
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sri |
http://www.slideshare.net/Penf[…]/perl-and-unicode |
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ZadYree |
ok ty |
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sri |
that one was good i think |
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sri |
that's for stage one, when you think you have understood it |
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sri |
let me look for the stage two link |
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ZadYree |
ok thanks :D |
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ZadYree |
I like the way those slides are written |
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ZadYree |
Why the hell are people still coding in Perl 4 ^^ |
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mikegrb |
people are dumb |
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sri |
http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]t/6163129#6163129 |
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sri |
stage is two is realizing that you still have no fucking clue what's going on :) |
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sri |
s/is// |
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ZadYree |
haha indeed |
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netfeed |
i wish you could just work on text, i don't want to care about encodings, i just want to have some text do stuff to it and then output it |
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sri |
perldoc perlunicode looks rather good too |
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ZadYree |
ok my perl 5.12 may not me enuff |
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ZadYree |
Well, it seems implementing auto utf-8 really is a pain in the ass, for everybody? Am I wrong? |
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sri |
once you realize that it's just bytes vs characters things get easier |
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sri |
as far as you're concerned characters have no encoding |
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ZadYree |
in my head, chars were just the printed result or different-sized bytes :S |
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ZadYree |
s/or/of/ |
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ZadYree |
But couldn't mojo rendering do that brainstorming work for me? ^^ |
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sri |
purl: perl unicode is http://www.slideshare.net/Penf[…]/perl-and-unicode and http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]t/6163129#6163129 |
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purl |
OK, sri. |
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sri |
no |
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nightmare |
Anyone tried to make a site with Mojo docs indexed(SWISH-e) ? Feel like I jump around a lot looking for stuff. |
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sri |
there is no such thing as automatic unicode handling |
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sheds a tear. |
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ccushing |
is there no way besides MOJO_CONFIG to set the location of the config file? |
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jmhgtx |
Hi, I have an HTTP::Response object ($result) and I'm attempting to call $self->render( text => $result->content, status => $result->code ); . When I dump the $result before calling render(), the content is a json string that I'm looking for and the code is 201. However, when I dump the result of the $self->response() call in a test file, I'm getting 400 with '400 URL must be absolute'. Any idea why the call to render() is (appears to be) changing th |
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jmhgtx |
e information? |
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ccushing |
using MOJO_CONFIG seems like a bad idea because I have more than 1 app running in the same environment |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: https://gist.github.com/1561712 |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: why do you have an HTTP::Response, are you proxying some API? |
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jmhgtx |
Yes |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: you can probably use UA embeded in mojo then... |
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jmhgtx |
The thing that's really odd is I've got some tests that pass just fine and some that fail because the call to render is changing everything. |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: but that's another thing... I just tested that gist and it does what you want, so, the problem shouldn't be on the render() call. |
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jmhgtx |
Thanks for your response. I'll check out the mojo UA. |
| 19:55 |
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jmhgtx |
I just tried what you pasted and nothing changed for me. |
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sri |
'URL must be absolute' is a string that does not appear anywhere in mojolicious |
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diegok |
sri: ? |
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sri |
"...I'm getting 400 with '400 URL must be absolute'..." |
| 19:57 |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: tried exactly that or just added the format thingy? |
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diegok |
sri: yes, I was about to suggest to check $response->is_success |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: ^ |
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jmhgtx |
I did both actually and both return the exact same response. |
| 19:58 |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: what sri've said ^^^ |
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jmhgtx |
I'm dumping the result of the response object and got _rc => 400 |
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jmhgtx |
That's the response in the test file. |
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diegok |
jmhgtx: I would start asking about mojo version, but given that string doesn't came from mojo... |
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jmhgtx |
Ok. Thanks for your assistance. |
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From: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]uzUnHhWcD0vcKNULg (1 hits) |
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MojoGuest11 |
this is a test |
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MojoGuest11 |
anyone out there |
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purl |
no we're all dead |
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Andrei666 |
hey guys, I'm still trying to learn mojolicious, and everything that it's got |
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Andrei666 |
so I'm doing a small lite app that takes 2 numbers and adds them or substracts them... |
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Andrei666 |
I'm doing this with 2 buttons to post methods /add and /substract |
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Andrei666 |
the thing is that, currently this subs render a result.html.ep page |
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Andrei666 |
well, I want to incorporate that simple result page in the same index.html.ep called by get '/' |
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Andrei666 |
am I supose to tho this with partial rendering...or? |
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Andrei666 |
including partial templates |
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Andrei666 |
? |
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From: http://blog.kraih.com/perl-is-ready-for-html5 (107 hits) |
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sri |
is it just me or are those From messages by our mojoguests becoming a little annoying? |
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netfeed |
http://programmerryangosling.tumblr.com |
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trone |
sri: yep, I think so. |
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sri |
maybe time to ban the web client until xantus can remove the spam |
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sri |
hope that doesn't lock out regulars |
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marcus |
Seen matador? obvious.github.com/matador/ ? |
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sri |
looks boring |
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marcus |
Possibly better than express. |
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sri |
i think it uses express |
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rsimoes1 |
sri: any interest in moving Mojo into a separate dist? |
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sri |
none whatsoever |
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rsimoes1 |
or versioning it separately? |
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sri |
advantages? |
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purl |
sri: nil, purl: 1 |
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* sri |
hugs purl |
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* purl |
nibbles sri's elbow |
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rsimoes1 |
keeping track of updates to Mojo as opposed to Mojolicious |
| 23:56 |
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rsimoes1 |
some may be interested in one but not the other |
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sri |
been there tried that, didn't work |
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marcus |
Why? |
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sri |
now to make such drastic changes *you* have to prove that there are real advantages |
| 23:58 |
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marcus |
Bigger userbase for the client. |
| 23:58 |
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marcus |
I know there are people avoiding it because of this issue. |
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sri |
who? |
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marcus |
mst. |
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sri |
lol |
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marcus |
:) |
| 23:58 |
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marcus |
Others too. |
| 23:59 |
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sri |
and i think the resulting installation problems will cost us users |