Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2012-03-12

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00:52 marty Hmmm, I vaguely recall someone mentioning "multiple template paths" for mojo.  Was it the Matrix or did I miss something?
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01:24 GitHub82 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Ptf2LQ
01:24 GitHub82 [mojo/master] added many more links to the guides and tutorial - Sebastian Riedel
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01:25 sri marty: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Gui​des/Rendering#Bundling_assets_with_plugins
01:30 marty Thank you sri. That will come in very handy.
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01:39 GitHub79 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/XGmXnw
01:39 GitHub79 [mojo/master] fixed a few small typos - Sebastian Riedel
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01:42 sri hope the links make the documentation better, not worse
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02:42 sshaw shouldn't there be a difference between Mojo::Expection->message and Mojo::Exception->raw_message?
02:43 sshaw i'd think that maybe message() would strip the line number, if present, or something
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06:36 amirite do any plugins exist for browser detection
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10:31 vervain sri++ on the doc amendments! :-D
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11:12 * sri yawns
11:14 marcus sri: I'm not on crack?
11:14 sri don't do crack... mkay?
11:14 marcus sri: I mean, websocket messages are processed in order?
11:14 sri they are
11:15 sri so far
11:15 marcus good
11:15 sri google is working on a multiplexing extension
11:15 sri if that got negotiated they could be random too
11:15 marcus quantum websockets \o/
11:16 sri YO DAWG I HEAR YOU LIKE MULTIPLEXING... SO I PUT MULTIPLEX WEBSOCKETS IN YOUR SPDY SO YOU CAN MULTIPLEX WHILE YOU MULTIPLEX...!
11:18 sri scumbag google... has so much power over web standards that they release more and more redundant ones
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11:29 marcus mm
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12:58 sri https://github.com/kraih/mojo/issues/300 # thoughts?
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13:06 Netfeed insert obligatory joke about spartans?
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13:14 * sri pokes marcus, tempire and crab
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13:31 sri a current_route helper does seem to be useful for navigation
13:31 sri stuff like highlighting the currently active page in a navbar
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13:46 GitHub18 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/USMyzg
13:46 GitHub18 [mojo/master] added experimental current_route helper (closes #300) - Sebastian Riedel
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13:50 omega I'm struggeling to find docs on deploying apps on something other than /
13:50 omega we use fcgi (via plack), with apache in front
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13:58 GitHub54 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/oK2GxQ
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14:00 rwstauner omega: if you're willing to hard-code it i think there's a way to configure a prefix onto all your paths... been a while since i played with that, though
14:01 sri a correctly configured server should just work, since (F)CGI can pass prefix information along
14:01 sri but i don't do (F)CGI anymore
14:02 rwstauner last time i tried that i had trouble figuring it out... since it was internal i gave up and just connect to an arbitrary port
14:02 Netfeed all hail hypnotoad?
14:02 rwstauner but i wholly admit that i didn't know what i was doing
14:02 * sri just makes CGIish environment tests work others provide https://github.com/kraih/mojo/b​lob/master/t/mojo/request_cgi.t
14:03 sri but yea, i guess most people never bother learning how to actually configure their server and just give up blaming mojo
14:04 rwstauner i knew enough to blame myself for not knowing enough
14:04 rwstauner and just kept it simple
14:04 rwstauner connect straight to hypnotoad, skip fcgi/apache/etc
14:04 rwstauner :-)
14:04 Netfeed i just fired up hypnotoad, it was glorious, no config and just worked + some simple nginx config
14:04 sri seriously, reverse proxy is soooo much simpler, it's ridiculous
14:06 sri in factm if i had to use FCGI i'd rather hack up a .psgi wrapper than learn how to configure apache ;p
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14:06 Netfeed we're using mod_perl or something at work
14:07 Netfeed but it's just regluar cgi more or less, no mojo :(
14:07 tabbi hi, is there a snippet how to save a file uploaded by an html form? i couldnt find anything working
14:09 omega rwstauner: yeah, thats not really acceptable solution :)
14:09 omega sri: ok, are there any docs on how to correctly configure things?
14:09 omega sri: what appears to be the same config works with catalyst
14:10 sri omega: i don't do fcgi
14:10 sri if it's a bug please file a bug report with the cgi environment hash
14:11 sri (end expected result)
14:11 sri like the test i linked to above
14:17 ingard sri: do you have any (links to) docs that describe a correctly configured server?
14:17 ingard deploying hypnotoad is not something we've got time to do atm
14:17 sri ingard: i don't know, i don't do fcgi
14:17 ingard ok, so a correctly configured server would have what then?
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14:21 omega huh, http://mojolicio.us/ gives me raptor in chrome and ff, but curl gets a 200 OK
14:22 omega no longer
14:22 purl NEVERMORE
14:23 tabbi any ideas about file upload? I tried $file = $self->req->upload("filefield");
14:23 tabbi but $file is then undefined
14:26 omega sri: any easy way to find out what the cgi environment hash is?
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14:55 batman how do i make my non-blocking modules work in an environment without an io loop? like under psgi?
14:58 batman maybe i could manually start the ioloop in and around_dispatch hook?
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14:58 GitHub140 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/nGpScA
14:58 GitHub140 [mojo/master] a few more documentation links - Sebastian Riedel
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15:11 GitHub29 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/TswAiw
15:11 GitHub29 [mojo/master] even more documentation links - Sebastian Riedel
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16:54 marty tabbi: Here is a nice working example of file uploads.   http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yuki​kimoto/20100212/1265989676
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18:50 GitHub31 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ZyAgmw
18:50 GitHub31 [mojo/master] better helper documentation - Sebastian Riedel
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21:33 marcus hmm https://github.com/tudorconst​antin/Mojolicious-Boilerplate
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21:47 sri hmm
21:50 sri wtf
21:50 sri twitter bought posterous :o
21:53 Skylos_ interesting
21:53 sri that means posterous is pretty much dead
21:53 sri http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/03/12/twitter-h​as-acquired-shortform-blogging-company-posterous/
21:54 sri they are after the talent, not product :/
21:54 Skylos_ mayhaps.  Time will tell.
21:55 marcus sri: that's the blog you use, right?
21:55 sri right
21:55 sri not sure where to go next
21:55 marcus memowe?
21:55 purl it has been said that memowe is a jungle lover or at mirko.westermeier.de or XNORFZT! :) or sick of DBD::mysql
21:55 marcus ;)
21:55 sri i really liked the gist handling
21:56 Skylos_ roll your own, mojolicious style.
21:56 sri naah, i don't want to host it if i don't have to
21:56 Skylos_ If you want it done right...
21:56 sri i'm too busy already
21:56 DavidIAm Oh brother, I hear you there.  There aren't enough hours in the day
21:56 marcus if you want it done right, hire some monkies.
21:59 DavidIAm You can get monkeys for cheap.
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22:04 marcus DavidIAm: how much for infinite monkeys?
22:05 DavidIAm 0.25 * infinity dollars.
22:05 DavidIAm or was the formula 0.10/number of monkeys
22:05 DavidIAm since they're a dime a dozen?
22:05 DavidIAm 0.10 * infinity / 12
22:05 DavidIAm yeah, thats it.
22:06 DavidIAm so it cost you 1/12th what it would cost you for infinity programmers.
22:06 * marcus abandons his dreams of besting shakespeare
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22:33 sri btw. anyone got a better name for the current_route helper?
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23:07 GitHub23 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/rb_B5w
23:07 GitHub23 [mojo/master] added another current_route example - Sebastian Riedel
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