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sri |
lol |
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GitHub28 |
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GitHub28 |
[mojo/master] fixed Mojo::Cookie interface definition - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
i'm not even sure if it makes sense to keep these interface definitions |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]Mojo/Asset.pm#L10 # that's what i mean by that btw |
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tempire |
which ones/ |
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tempire |
the 3 above is_file? |
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sri |
ALL THE THINGS |
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sri |
those croaking methods |
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sri |
there's also a really silly case |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]o/Message.pm#L435 |
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tempire |
regular perl should take care of all those cases, so I'm ok with removing them. it's a little more declarative, but not that much. |
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sri |
i'm unsure |
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tempire |
unsure means no |
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tempire |
so they stay |
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tempire |
so says sri's rules |
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sri |
on the other hand, they make pretty clear what's expected from other Mojo::Asset subclasses |
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sri |
don't use my rules against me :( |
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bgsmith |
greetings channel - newbie question - how do iterate over a list of elements in a ul - my $newdom = Mojo::DOM->new('<div class=mb15><ul class="programList"><li>hello</li><li>world</li></ul></div>'); |
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bgsmith |
s/how do/how do I/ |
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bgsmith |
sorry. found the answer. |
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Oleg |
Hi guys. Please tell me how to make fork() in mojolicious web application properly. I want to run long task in the background. This is my attempt: https://gist.github.com/2098125 . It works. But when task started and I want to restart server (Mojo::Server::Daemon) it says: Can't create listen socket: Address already in use. It seems I should stop app in forked process before exec, but don't know how. |
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binaryking |
hey guys |
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binaryking |
how do i make multiple webpages in mojolicious |
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binaryking |
and with multiple .pl files? |
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binaryking |
is it possible? |
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purl |
anything is possible in the next half hour |
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amirite |
if i send an ajax request to my controller and the data is encoded in json how do i get to it |
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amirite |
i.e. i'm not sending stuff as standard cgi params because it is the suck and i hate it and want to kill it |
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tempire |
Oleg: fork is probably not what you want. you can accomplish what you want by using a job server. |
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tempire |
like gearman. or something like redis pubsub |
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tempire |
binaryking: you should watch all the mojocasts, and read through the docs on mojolicio.us/perldoc. |
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binaryking |
alright, tempire :) |
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tempire |
amirite: $self->req gives you a subclass of http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/Message |
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Oleg |
tempire: I think job server is too complicated for my simple task. However if I can't fork() with mojolicious job server becomes only available solution |
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amirite |
sweet |
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amirite |
thanks temp |
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memowe |
O HAI |
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* sri |
yawns |
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sri |
tempire: looks like you've got a good spot for your talk :) |
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sri |
just the unicode regex talk might steal some folks |
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memowe |
Is there any issue with wildcard placeholders and special url escapes? |
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memowe |
My wildcard placeholder can't match /IQ==%0A |
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memowe |
This: https://gist.github.com/2110064 |
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memowe |
%0A is a newline, right? |
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memowe |
Adding the single line switch makes it work: |
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memowe |
get '/*foo' => [foo => qr/.*/s] => sub { |
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memowe |
... |
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[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/bCsn7Q |
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GitHub167 |
[mojo/master] made content parser code a little more readable - Sebastian Riedel |
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judofyr |
sri: here are some notes on Rack 2.0 from the Rack maintainer: https://gist.github.com/11c3491561802e573a47 |
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judofyr |
sri: where's the discussion on async PSGI btw? |
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sri |
judofyr: seen it already :) |
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sri |
i'm afraid there is no async psgi discussion yet, i think the plan is to wait what rack does and just steal that :S |
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tm |
afternoon |
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purl |
afternoon is when we eat my lunch. |
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memowe |
sri: how about adding /s to wildcard placeholders? |
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tm |
purl: ok, +1 for subjectivity ;) |
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purl |
tm: i'm not following you... |
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tm |
I have possibly trivial question... maybe someone knows how to do it :) |
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tm |
I need to check validity and content of session cookie when serving static content, so if cookie is missing or wrong, static content is not served - doable? |
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judofyr |
sri: how come you are more updated than me? :( |
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judofyr |
I thought I was the Ruby guy |
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jnap |
tm: when I have a case like that I tend to use something the X-Sendfile |
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jnap |
the idea is you have a real catalyst action associated with the static content you want to 'protect' and then instead of returning the actual content you return X-Sendfile in the header. Or you if you want to serve files for development, you can return them with something this IO::File::WithPath and there is a plack middleware that sets up the headers for your correctly (I think ::Middleware::Reproxy or similar) |
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jnap |
that way you handle the protecting the fle via catalyst, but actually serve the file via the web server, which gets a lot of static load off you application |
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jnap |
if you don't expect a ton of load on that protected static file, this way be overkill :) |
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tm |
jnap: that's nice idea but I'm thinking of running mojo under hypnotoad, so no sendfile (unless I missed it) |
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jnap |
doh, wrong channel |
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jnap |
sorry, but I imagine the approach is similar |
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tm |
but good idea! |
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jnap |
the pattern is not specific to a web platform |
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tm |
need to investigate... i would also like to off-load some files to servers in another country ;-) and need to have anti-scrape protection |
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jnap |
although mojo might encapsulate the pattern more than cat does |
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tm |
tnx for the idea |
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tm |
similar issue is described here http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]simple-perl-proxy |
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tm |
also before I got and try it - maybe someone already did it in context of clustering - two servers, two hostnames, same app, same session secret - will sessions set on machine A be accepted as valid on B? |
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sri |
memowe: why is i t exclusive to widlcard placeholders? |
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sri |
jnap: nope, it's much more simple in mojo |
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sri |
tm: use a before_dispatch hook and check the session |
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sri |
judofyr: because i follow the right people on twitter? :D |
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tm |
sri: thanks! off to docs then - this will require session for all requests in this case :D Sweet! |
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memowe |
sri: it probably isn't, but I missed it with wildcards while everything works fine with standard placeholders. |
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sri |
memowe: ok, i have a fix |
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sri |
but there's another bug in the static dispatcher |
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binaryking |
how do i specify a folder for templates only ? |
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sri |
memowe: "Unsuccessful stat on filename containing newline at script/../lib/Mojolicious/Static.pm line 172." to be precise |
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memowe |
yup, I saw that. |
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sri |
i'm actually not sure how to handle that |
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memowe |
Are file names allowed to contain newlines somewhere? |
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sri |
i don't know |
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sri |
but i wouldn't be surprised |
| 14:28 |
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memowe |
Hmmmmm... |
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sri |
also, what characters count as newline? |
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sri |
the warning seems to be perl trying to be smart |
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sri |
telling people to chomp() when processing lines with windows line endings on unix or so |
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sri |
from perldiag "(W newline) A file operation was attempted on a filename, and that operation failed, PROBABLY because the filename contained a newline, PROBABLY because you forgot to chomp() it off." |
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sri |
i fucking hate this side of perl |
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sri |
i'm tempted to disable warnings completely in mojolicious |
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memowe |
:/ |
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sri |
lexical no warnings 'newline'; makes it go away |
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memowe |
"ugly but works"? |
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sri |
it always worked |
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sri |
now it just doesn't warn |
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memowe |
I meant "doesn't warn" with "works" :) |
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GitHub155 |
[mojo/master] fixed small newline capture bug in Mojolicious::Routes::Match - Sebastian Riedel |
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memowe |
sri++ |
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binaryking |
sri: can u help me? |
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marty |
binaryking: What do you mean by "specify a folder for templates only"? |
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xenu |
how do i destroy session? |
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xenu |
i can't find it in docs |
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inokenty |
xenu: maybe you have to remove the 'mojolicious' cookie? |
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xenu |
well, i have found that $self->session(expires => 1); works |
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xenu |
and it works* |
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inokenty |
Good |
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[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/j8pITw |
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GitHub32 |
[mojo/master] more session and cookie examples - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
now it's documented in at least 3 places |
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xenu |
thanks, much appreciated :) |
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[mojo/master] added route_for method to Mojolicious::Routes::Match - Sebastian Riedel |
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GitHub191 |
[mojo/master] added a few tests for Mojolicious::Routes::Match - Sebastian Riedel |
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tempire |
gist-vim maintainer fixed the plugin to use the api |
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tempire |
:) |
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sri |
gists would be an interesting storage platform for a mojolicious blog system :) |
| 18:03 |
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tempire |
hey that was my idea from days ago |
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tempire |
GET ON THE BOAT! |
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* sri |
gets on the boat |
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sri |
think you can even use github issues for storage :o |
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tempire |
but then I thought, why not just use a regular repo |
| 18:04 |
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tempire |
github is the new gmail |
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daxim |
social peeking and poking |
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tempire |
gist might work better, you could use the description field for tags |
| 18:10 |
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tempire |
don't see a way for extra context information per file in a repo |
| 18:11 |
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tempire |
guess a separate db file would work, but gists are simpler |
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tempire |
trouble is, you'd have to sacrifice your gist listing if you used it for psuedo-permanent storage of stuff. |
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sri |
use a secondary account |
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tempire |
boo |
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sri |
issues then |
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tempire |
that is probably the best, since you can have arbitrary labels |
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sri |
and comments |
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purl |
comments are lying. next_for_GC *is* the GC marking mechanism right now |
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tempire |
what would the name be? |
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tempire |
hubulicious |
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tempire |
issuehub |
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tempire |
yamb |
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tempire |
"yet another mojolicious blog" |
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tempire |
yamby |
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tempire |
"yet another mojolicious blog, yo" |
| 18:23 |
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memowe |
my ass off! :) |
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* sri |
wonders if Mojolicious::Routes::Match->route_for should rather be Mojolicious::Routes->find |
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sri |
question is if $r->find('foo') is useful |
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sri |
it also breaks the routes/match separation :/ |
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sri |
on the other hand, that separation is already broken by a few other methods... hmmm |
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[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/nZqPtw |
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GitHub131 |
[mojo/master] renamed route_for method to find - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
yea, it doesn't depend on context, like the other match methods, so it's better off in routes |
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tempire |
I've never used that method. What is the use case? |
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sri |
i wrote that method like an hour ago ;p |
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* tempire |
gets on the bus |
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sri |
it's internal code from Mojolicious::Routes::Match->path_for |
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sri |
which is used by url_for |
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tempire |
that's what I figured |
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sri |
to find routes by name for rendering |
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sri |
potential use case is plugins for all kinds of stuff |
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sri |
lets say you specify in your plugin that it requires a route named "foo_plugin_root" |
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sri |
and the plugin appends some other routes to that |
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sri |
another use case is introspection, lets say you want to know which http methods a specific route accepts |
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sri |
find('name') and check ->via of all parents |
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tempire |
ah, so it's partially in response to that issue. |
| 18:58 |
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sri |
partially |
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tempire |
huh. I thought pugs had died, but there is still activity on the repo. |
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xenu |
pugs was revived lately |
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daxim |
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/Pugs these are regular maintenance releases since last summer |
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daxim |
they fix breakage with new haskell compiler releases only |
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daxim |
the smoke tests shows that the software itself continues to fall out of specced behaviour |
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daxim |
I'm trying to get some local haskell hackers interested to pick up the lambdacamel torch, but pugs is a very complicated codebase to get into as a beginner |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
POST detection for form_for seems very possible |
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sri |
i can do it in 5 lines... but should it be done? |
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sri |
i'll take the silence as a hint that i should forget about it and remove ->find again :) |
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sri |
->find could also be useful for unit tests i suppose |
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sri |
ok app->routes->find('echo')->is_websocket; |
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sri |
ok app->routes->find('foo')->pattern->match('/foo/bar/baz'); |
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sri |
is app->routes->find('bar')->pattern->defaults->{action}, 'baz'; |
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sri |
possibly modification for tests app->routes->find('foo')->pattern->defaults->{testing} = 1 |
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[mojo/master] added route introspection tests - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
those alone seem worth it |
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tempire |
form_for detection seems like a good idea |
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tempire |
but what happens when there's two methods for the same route? |
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tempire: GET gets priority over POST and all others are ignored? |
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rhaen |
hm. |
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rhaen |
well, well, well. |
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sri |
tempire: that logic would take 9 lines i think |
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sri |
yes, have it implemented |
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tempire |
You mean POST gets priority over GET? |
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tempire |
http://www.dafont.com/magical-[…]?text=Mojolicious |
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sri |
tempire: nope |
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sri |
i mean method="POST" only gets inserted when we are sure that's what the user wants |
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tempire |
oh, ok. |
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sri |
so GET over POST |
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tempire: why would you give POST higher priority than GET? |
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sri |
what if PATCH and POST are allowed? |
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tempire |
if there are two routes, one with get and other with post, the user almost certainly wants form_for post. |
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tempire |
that's what I'm referring to. |
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sri |
huh? |
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sri |
two separate routes? |
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sri |
and what makes you so sure he wants post? |
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tempire |
in rest api terms, GET /things vs POST /things, the post is more likely. |
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tempire |
but you don't know. |
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tempire |
I don't think auto-detection is a good idea. |
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tempire |
there's too much potential for confusion. |
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sri |
umm |
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sri |
didn't you read what i wrote before? |
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sri |
that confusion is exactly why i said GET over POST |
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sri |
there is no ambiguity |
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tempire |
then what's the point of specifying the method at all, since the browser already assumes GET |
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sri |
if only POST is allowed then you need the method="POST" attribute |
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sri |
no method attribute is added for GET |
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sri |
just for POST |
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* tempire |
is confused |
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sri |
if you have a route that allows POST but not GET, we will insert method="POST" |
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sri |
that's all |
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tempire |
and if there's a POST and GET route, then it assumes GET, specifying nothing. |
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sri |
yes |
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tempire |
ok |
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sri |
"For routes that allow the C<POST> method but not C<GET>, a method attribute will be automatically added." |
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tempire |
make sense. |
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tempire |
https://encipher.it/ |
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cstamas |
hi |
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tempire |
oh hai |
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cstamas |
I am trying to build a form |
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cstamas |
with about 50 values |
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cstamas |
1. the form, 2 review (and can modify, back to from one), 3 process from, thx to the user |
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cstamas |
how should one accoplish that |
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cstamas |
? |
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cstamas |
I do not see a clean way without duplicating much code |
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cstamas |
do you have any suggestion? |
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cstamas |
thx. |
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tempire |
put the duplicate code into a separate module |
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xaka |
forms with method=GET makes no sense i think because in that case the whole query string (if any) is being replaced by form values, kind of "hidden bug" and user can be confused |
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* sri |
likes that the upload forms get more pretty |
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tempire |
you were saying a unicode talk was a competitor for my talk? |
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tempire |
I don't see that |
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sri |
it starts earlier |
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sri |
two talks long |
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tempire |
oh yeah |
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tempire |
damnit. |
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tempire |
I want to hear that talk. |
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sri |
:) |
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tempire |
but my target group won't know why that's important, I suspect |
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tempire |
but seriously, that's probably the only time I want to spend learning about unicode. |
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* tempire |
grumbles |
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sri |
well, you can see the first half |
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sri |
i bet half of the second will be questions |
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tempire |
it's a shame that the talks are recorded at such low quality |
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tempire |
you can't understand a thing if the person speaks with a heavy accent you're not familiar with. |
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sri |
hmm, method detection also has a performance cost, not sure if that matters much though |
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tempire |
mst's talks are unparsable to my american ear. |
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memowe |
sri: did I say thank you for mojolicious today? |
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sri |
maybe we should consider ->find caching at some point |
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* sri |
bets marcus loves all magic |
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sri |
memowe: not sure |
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tempire |
is there a performance hit if you specify the method? |
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memowe |
sri: thank you (and your core devs) for mojolicious! You all are awesome! |
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tempire: yes |
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* tempire |
takes all credit |
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sri |
:D |
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sri |
\o/ |
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Topic for #mojo is now Mojolicious real-time web framework 🐫 http://mojolicio.us 🐫 http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today |
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