Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2012-03-23

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00:01 tempire and that new framework is called...non-blocking mongodb driver
00:01 * sri nods
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00:38 ExpFist Hi. I'm just starting to get into Mojo. I'm looking to start off by replacing the request/session management of an existing web app
00:38 ExpFist Is this even possible?
00:39 ExpFist I have an existing subroutine for example called getSubmit where I get the posted date. Can I plug mojolicious into that existing routine only for now?
00:44 tempire ExpFist: there are too many unknowns to possibly answer your question
00:44 tempire If you watch the mojocasts, and read through mojolicio.us/perldoc, you'll be able to formulate your questions to get help quicker
00:45 * tempire is off to dance with the ladies
00:45 ExpFist I read through the docs. I guess I'm wondering if I need to use the "  get '/' => sub {" format to run stuff
00:46 tempire if it's a lite app, the get ... sub format will be called when a request comes in.
00:47 tempire you should never call it specifically
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06:48 * marcus is disillusioned by mongo
06:50 marcus but I have the new ipad to keep me happy \o/
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07:31 tempire I'm using mongo to store logs for mojocasts
07:32 tempire the server has gone down twice, and each time, I had to regenerate/fix/whatever the db
07:32 tempire I'm sure there's ways to manage it.
07:32 tempire but it's still annoying.
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07:37 marcus yeah, it's the mysql of nosql :/
07:38 tempire I never had a problem with mysql
07:38 marcus I'd rather see a great redis driver for mojo :)
07:38 tempire people complain about mysql, but I always liked that the permissions system was completely seperate from the os
07:39 marcus tempire: I mostly dislike how mysql is a collection of dirty hacks.
07:39 tempire I don't know anything about the underlying implementation.  it was the first db I used, so I measure everything else by its ease of use.
07:40 tempire Is the existing redis driver not so good?
07:40 marcus the mojox::redis thing is outdated, and not great
07:40 marcus and I found anyevent::Redis to be a bit clunky as well
07:40 tempire What about the Redis module itself?
07:42 marcus it's not async?
07:49 tempire hmm
07:49 tempire what path would you recommend for getting a handle on redis?
07:49 tempire http://redis.io/topics/twitter-clone looks interesting
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08:04 tempire ah, this makes sense.  it's all about defining invertible mappings.
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08:14 tempire ZOMG
08:15 tempire the US wins.
08:15 tempire because we have this: http://tacocopter.com/
08:19 marcus tempire: I can see why you wouldn't want to leave that behind.
08:21 tempire does norway have tacos?  I didn't see that in the video.
08:26 omega a large portion of norwegian households eat tacos on fridays I think
08:26 tempire they should put that in the video
08:26 marcus they should
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11:00 tempire love the svbtle interface
11:00 * tempire considers a blog platform
11:01 sri hmm, now i'm demotivated again :/
11:02 tempire by what?
11:02 purl by is the country code for Belarus
11:02 sri by marcus
11:03 tempire I thought the biggest issue you were having was how to mix the async/sync parts
11:03 sri yea, it's a hard problem to fix that requires motivation
11:04 tempire wellst.  you could attempt to fix it using redis.
11:04 sri redis is not a database
11:05 * tempire pokes everyone
11:06 tempire do you want a non-blocking mongodb driver?
11:06 tempire then speak up!
11:06 sri you can use redis *together* with a real database, but that's it
11:06 tempire I wonder how many encouraging responses you would get if you asked the twitterverse
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11:09 daxim twitter is full of idiots due to the insularity
11:11 sri let me translate that for you... "TWITTER SUCKS BECAUSE I HAV ENO FOLLOWERS!"
11:23 sri hmmmmm... the tacocopter seems like a perfectly valid reason to move to SF :o
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13:45 marcus Hmm
13:45 marcus Washing my car. 3g on ipad rocks.
13:46 marcus Sri: expect to see your nick this way a lot more in the future.... ;)
13:46 * sri demands to be lowercased
13:51 marcus Sri: ok.
13:51 sri -.-
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14:21 binaryking how to use frameset tag in Mojo?
14:21 binaryking it isn't working.
14:50 binaryking any1 active here
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15:12 GitHub149 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/_zddiA
15:12 GitHub149 [mojo/master] fixed one_tick semantics to be equal in Mojo::Reactor::Poll and Mojo::Reactor::EV - Sebastian Riedel
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15:15 sri really helpful to have LeoNerd poke around in the code :)
15:33 binaryking sri: how do i set framesets?
15:39 alnewkirk html
15:39 alnewkirk or javascript
15:39 purl somebody said javascript was a language built entirely out of umbrellas or for people not from Oregon or hard to freakin' test properly or a symlink to broken or testbed at http://jsfiddle.net or http://666.is/link/5932
15:40 binaryking using html for the tag <frameset> isn't working
15:41 alnewkirk binaryking: plenty of googlable tuts online
15:42 binaryking alnewkirk: for mojolicious?
15:42 binaryking no.
15:44 alnewkirk :)
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15:53 GitHub165 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/h15fzw
15:53 GitHub165 [mojo/master] more relaxed Mojo::Reactor tests - Sebastian Riedel
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16:14 GitHub134 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/C7j9ag
16:14 GitHub134 [mojo/master] made online test a little more reliable - Sebastian Riedel
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16:24 GitHub56 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/EmGIxQ
16:24 GitHub56 [mojo/master] make sure one_tick semantics are tested - Sebastian Riedel
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16:27 kanishka can any help to build a multilingual website with a simple language conversion mojo lite app
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16:49 sri kanishka: http://mojolicio.us/perldo​c/Mojolicious/Plugin/I18N
16:51 kanishka I tried it but not able to figure it out. I new to this web-coding stuff, specially to multilingual site. Looking for a demo app
16:51 sri i'm sure there are good unit tests you can look at
16:53 sri but yea, that plugin is underdocumented
16:54 kanishka I am trying to build a multilingual dynamic website ... I mean like fly-on language conversion over the site
16:55 kanishka sri is there any site which use I18N on mojo ?
16:55 sri not that i know of
16:56 sri but it's not like i know them all anymore these days ;)
16:58 * sri wonders if the I18N plugin is a candidate for removal from core
17:00 kanishka internationalization is the new web, most of the site are in english, i tried to make the web closer to people in their native language.
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17:20 GitHub32 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Jvhc5A
17:20 GitHub32 [mojo/master] added internationalization recipe - Sebastian Riedel
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17:20 sri kanishka: maybe that helps a bit
17:22 sri if that recipe causes more questions than it answers i'm pretty sure we will remove the plugin from core
17:23 kanishka sri I think that is working on it
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17:58 kanishka sri, a small question, does we have to convert every word manually. Is there anyway do it automatically ?
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18:25 Mrono Is there a walkthrough for building a websocket server without running perl xxx.pl daemon
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19:53 tempire http://www.betabeat.com/2012/03/23/how​-to-feed-and-care-for-your-developer/
19:53 tempire fog creek is a windows shop.  but damn, the video makes me second-guess whether that matters
19:55 sri indeed
19:56 tempire also, I want one of those adjustable desks
19:58 * sri has an adjustable desk
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19:59 tempire which one?
20:00 sri i have no idea :)
20:06 tempire If the mop makes it into 518, I'd be surprised.
20:06 tempire pleasantly, of course
20:07 tempire the world will change significantly, for sure
20:09 sri https://github.com/stevan/p5-mop/blob/mast​er/t/000-examples/002-basic-example.t#L11
20:09 sri it should have always been like that
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21:37 lammel2 wow, if mop is finally making it's way into perl and it's not as slow as moose perl finally catches up to the postmodern world of object orientation with sane syntax ;-)
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22:22 GitHub128 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/QKQpZg
22:22 GitHub128 [mojo/master] small documentation tweaks - Sebastian Riedel
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