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* sri |
yawns |
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* diegok |
morning |
| 08:27 |
sri |
a diegok morning to you too! |
| 08:27 |
diegok |
\o/ |
| 08:29 |
diegok |
I've changed start_tag and end_tag on one of my apps (to use [%%]) and now it's failing to render exception template... how should I do to have both things working? :) |
| 08:29 |
diegok |
(using EP) ^ |
| 08:30 |
diegok |
well, failing... it's not rendering well because it uses <%%> :) |
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GitHub24 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/XvZFnA |
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GitHub24 |
[mojo/master] better one_tick description - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
diegok: use a different extension of course |
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sri |
index.html.dep (diegok embedded templates) |
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sri |
s/templates/perl/ |
| 08:32 |
diegok |
sri: so, I should "add another view" based on EP. Ok, it's what I was thinking I should :) |
| 08:35 |
diegok |
sri: is there any example on how to declare another extension/config for EP? |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/master/t/mojolicious/twinkle_lite_app.t |
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diegok |
sri: ok, it's name attribute (just saw plugin source). |
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diegok |
thank you! |
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nic |
tempire: oh wow, thanks for the perloku link |
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omega |
why does EPLRenderer complain about invalid enocoding on dotcloud, but not on my local machine? |
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omega |
I have but invalid encoding into the template on purpose |
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sri |
i wish perl had anonymous classes :/ |
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crab |
hi. |
| 10:25 |
crab |
i have a route like this: $x = $y->route('/pending'); $x->get('/(:cert).(:ext)', ext => [qw/pdf jpg/]) |
| 10:25 |
crab |
which used to work (well, the outer route used to be a waypoint, but the whole thing worked) |
| 10:26 |
crab |
now it doesn't work. i assume it's because of the format detection changes. what is the correct way to write it? |
| 10:26 |
crab |
i tried just ->get('/(:cert)', format => [qw/pdf jpg/]), but that didn't match. |
| 10:27 |
crab |
i've also tried setting format => 0 on the outer route and then trying /(:cert).(:ext), but it stops working when i add a constraint on ext at all. |
| 10:30 |
crab |
to be clear: ->get('/(:cert).(:ext)') matches, but ->get('/(:cert).(:ext)', ext => [qw/pdf jpg/]) doesn't. |
| 10:31 |
crab |
also, dropping ext and using ->get('/(:cert)') works, and stash('format') has the right value. but specifying format => ... makes it not match. |
| 10:31 |
crab |
is this a misunderstanding on my part or a bug? |
| 10:32 |
MisterHatt |
I dont suppose anyone's used AnyEvent::Redis with mojolicious? |
| 10:34 |
sri |
crab: perl -Mojo -E'a("/:cert", [format => [qw/pdf jpg/]] => sub { $_[0]->render_text(join ",", $_[0]->stash("cert"), $_[0]->stash("format")) })->start' get /foo.pdf |
| 10:35 |
sri |
works for me |
| 10:37 |
crab |
is there a similar way to make a nested route on the command line? |
| 10:37 |
crab |
(your example works for me too) |
| 10:38 |
sri |
perl -Mojo -E'a->routes->route("/foo")->route("/bar")->to(text => "works!"); a->start' get /foo/bar |
| 10:39 |
crab |
no, it's not the nested route. i moved it outside the nested route and it still doesn't match. let me see if i can figure out a minimal case. |
| 10:40 |
sri |
crab: and you are 100% sure that route worked before? |
| 10:40 |
crab |
yes. |
| 10:40 |
sri |
because i'm 100% sure it doesn't |
| 10:41 |
crab |
no no, my customers depended on it at a very fundamental level. |
| 10:41 |
sri |
"$x->get('/(:cert).(:ext)', ext => [qw/pdf jpg/])" <- that ext =>... is garbage |
| 10:41 |
crab |
garbage how? |
| 10:41 |
sri |
it doesn't do anything |
| 10:42 |
crab |
maybe it was a regexp. let me look at the git log. |
| 10:42 |
sri |
except for quite possibly messing up stuff |
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| 10:42 |
sri |
i guess you mean [ext => [...]] |
| 10:43 |
sri |
there is no way in hell that ever worked |
| 10:44 |
crab |
[ext => [...]]? what does that even do? |
| 10:44 |
sri |
equivalent to Mojolicious::Lite |
| 10:44 |
crab |
$r->route('/:name', name => ['bender', 'leela']) |
| 10:45 |
crab |
^ this is from ::Guides::Routing |
| 10:45 |
sri |
->route != ->get |
| 10:45 |
sri |
->route is a primitive for ->get |
| 10:47 |
sri |
perhaps i should remove ->route and ->bridge from the routing guide if it confuses even you |
| 10:47 |
crab |
oh, that was just a typo on irc from me |
| 10:47 |
crab |
- $pending->route('/(:cert).(:ext)', ext => [qw/pdf jpg/]) |
| 10:47 |
crab |
that's the actual line that used to match. sorry for the confusion. |
| 10:51 |
crab |
hmm. but there must have been somewhere else i was being stupid, because now it works. heh. |
| 10:51 |
sri |
-.- |
| 10:52 |
* memowe |
is glad it works now. :) Just check your diffs to find out whar changed. :) |
| 10:54 |
sri |
crab: please review the routing guide anyway and tell me if it makes sense to get rid of route/bridge in favor of any/under http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Routing#More_convenient_routes |
| 10:54 |
stephan48 |
from my point of view yes it would make sense(not having read the link), it just sounds cleaner |
| 10:55 |
stephan48 |
and more lets say explaining |
| 10:55 |
sri |
i'm guessing it has been some time since you last read it, *a lot* has changed |
| 10:55 |
stephan48 |
i wouldnt deprecate them |
| 10:55 |
stephan48 |
yea |
| 10:56 |
crab |
will read. |
| 10:57 |
crab |
memowe: yes, i've figured it out, but due to abject embarrassment will pretend it was someone else's fault. ;-) |
| 10:59 |
sri |
i like the idea of a simpler routing guide, but on the other hand a lot of explanations for the flexibility of the router would get lost |
| 10:59 |
sri |
like ->via(qw/GET POST/) for routes matching multiple methods |
| 11:01 |
stephan48 |
maybe explain both ways |
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crab |
sri: i don't like the idea of getting rid of the explanations of route and bridge because people do use the routing guide also as a reference and not just a tutorial. " |
| 11:01 |
stephan48 |
a shortcut with any/under/get/post etc and route/via/bridge |
| 11:01 |
al |
yep, it is a reference |
| 11:01 |
crab |
"how does x work?" on irc often is answered with "see routing guide", and people will continue to use and encounter route/bridge in real code. |
| 11:01 |
stephan48 |
as a longer part |
| 11:02 |
crab |
but maybe some more examples would be good. let me go through it carefully from top to bottom once. |
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sri |
if lite examples are necessary earlier we would also need a new introduction to the similarities between normal and lite |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
all templates get compiled into Mojo::Template::Sandbox atm. that can be problematic if people import functions directly into their templates |
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sri |
if we generate pseudo-anonymous classes we might leak memory though |
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sri |
sooo, what is better, possible namespace clash or memory leaks? |
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* sri |
pokes crab, tempire and marcus |
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stephan48 |
why potential memory leaks? |
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sri |
because classes are never cleaned up by perl |
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sri |
and of course we have inline templates and the like |
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sri |
well, i don't care very much, but it might come up as a problem again in the future |
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stephan48 |
cant you prefix imported functions in a template by the template name? |
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sri |
please elaborate |
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stephan48 |
sri: i mean that they are imported like M::T::SB::template_importedfunc |
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* sri |
doesn't get it |
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* stephan48 |
doesnt know howto explain |
| 14:20 |
sri |
i'm talking about "% use Scalar::Util 'weaken';" and the like |
| 14:20 |
sri |
if another template does "% use MyModule 'weaken';" the other template is screwed |
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sri |
hmm |
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sri |
increase in memory usage is substantial if we switch to one class per template |
| 15:33 |
sri |
crab, tempire, marcus: i really need a vote on this |
| 15:34 |
sri |
a test with 30 templates went from 21.6MB to 22.3MB |
| 15:37 |
crab |
i'd say do nothing for now |
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crab |
it's probably not many people who use modules in templates to begin with, and it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask them to be extra cautious |
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* sri |
nods |
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sri |
the problem i see it templates from plugins |
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sri |
s/t/s/ |
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sri |
with helpers we can log collisions, but modules in templates are a problem |
| 15:50 |
nic |
tempire: Re heroku... are you using 'cedar'? |
| 15:51 |
nic |
Following the perloku example, I just get "Heroku push rejected, no Cedar-supported app detected" |
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marcus |
Sri: i am against increased memory. |
| 18:11 |
marcus |
:) |
| 18:12 |
sri |
marcus: so you are in favor of namespace collisions! |
| 18:12 |
marcus |
Seems like a rare problem. |
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* sri |
wonders if he will ever see marcus not use an ipad again |
| 18:13 |
marcus |
I am on the iPhone actually. |
| 18:13 |
sri |
:o |
| 18:13 |
marcus |
I usually use the iPad keyboard now ;) |
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tempire |
nic: you're probably not following the directions on judofyr's repo properly |
| 18:41 |
tempire |
sri: changing something because of something that might be a problem to someone sometime is against your core programming. |
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* tempire |
tweaks sri |
| 18:41 |
* sri |
crashes |
| 18:42 |
* sri |
reboots |
| 18:43 |
* sri |
glares at tempire |
| 18:44 |
tempire |
it's ok to reboot if you're a lightweight process. |
| 18:44 |
* sri |
starts strangling tempire |
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whee |
I think I left my DOS boot disk in there |
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* tempire |
triggers sri's unruly imperative side-effects |
| 18:45 |
* tempire |
watches as he gets distracted by something else and goes about his business |
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* sri |
is confused |
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* sri |
reacquires target and runs after tempire |
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* tempire |
spawns half a million vm threads to keep sri busy |
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* sri |
gets distracted by a new simpsons episode |
| 19:05 |
sri |
tempire: what i'm afraid of is that we won't be able to change it if it becomes a problem later |
| 19:05 |
sri |
if a template bundled with a plugin for example imports some function it will be available in all templates |
| 19:06 |
sri |
now, even a helper can redefine that function |
| 19:06 |
sri |
for *all* templates, including the original plugin one |
| 19:07 |
sri |
with helpers that's not a big deal, since you see a friendly debug warning |
| 19:09 |
sri |
i can see people depend on that behavior |
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sri |
and others getting into trouble |
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sri |
2.94 release might be a good idea |
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marcus |
I think it's a feature that you can do your imports one place for all your templates. |
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memowe |
ZOMG. One of my dancing students (!) just asked me to give a 2hrs talk in our university information system thing admin group about mojo and orm stuff. |
| 22:01 |
memowe |
:) |
| 22:02 |
memowe |
I never talked with him about computer related stuff. |
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marcus |
memowe: Awesome |
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* marcus |
is trying to test graphite. Man what a bad install experience. |
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kwaping |
hi everyone, I'm having a problem and have been unable to solve it on my own so far... |
| 22:46 |
kwaping |
I have a standard install that copies one of the tutorials, but when I'm running it via psgi/plack, I am getting an error about Can't locate object method "new" via package "My::Module::Here" at /home/y/lib/perl5/site_perl/Mojo/Server.pm line 18.\n |
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kwaping |
the module in question has the line: |
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kwaping |
use Mojo::Base 'Mojolicious'; |
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kwaping |
is there an issue with the namespace starting with Foo::Bar::Baz instead of just Foo or Foo::Bar? |
| 22:54 |
kwaping |
I did another test installation which this is a copy of and that one worked fine |
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