Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2012-06-26

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00:40 sri diegok: i'm afraid that example doesn't actually work
00:40 sri (or it does... but is a little too complicated for an example)
00:41 sri map grep is too scary
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01:56 sri phew... making a list of new features is hard :o
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02:16 sri so much has become stable recently, even respond_to counts as a new feature :S
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02:43 * sri wonders where to draw the line
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05:34 * sri could use someone to proofread
05:34 * sri pokes tempire
05:43 * marty is still awake
05:45 marty sri:  I can proofread if you want
05:45 sri \o/
05:47 sri also check that i didn't forget anything ;)
05:48 crab sri: proofread what?
05:48 sri 3.0 announcement
05:49 sri i like that posterous allows linking to drafts
05:53 sri marty: since you didn't say anything yet, i'm assuming prometheus sucked?
05:55 marty After we talked I decided to give it a little more time and set my expectations very very low.  Then maybe I can enjoy the visuals.  :)
05:56 sri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0 # apparently the whole movie is just a collection of plot holes :o
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06:02 marty I never watched an episode of lost, but when I heard the guy who wrote lost was involved in Prometheus, I just about puked.
06:04 sri oh my, watch lost!
06:05 sri at least the first few seasons
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06:07 * sri still needs to find a new show to watch :/
06:12 crab looks ok.
06:17 crab heh, mojolyst.
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06:41 * sri wonders when to release
06:42 sri i'll just release now :o
06:42 sri tagged
06:44 sri and released
06:44 sri \o/
06:46 marty sri++    Congratulations!
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07:17 tempire \o/
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07:26 sri i've not submitted it to hackernews yet, maybe later when more are awake to game the system :)
07:29 sri prolly should add "Perl real-time web framework" to the title again though
07:29 tempire for sherbs
07:30 tempire oh, what was it?
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07:32 tempire I like the example links
07:32 sri you said that last time too :)
07:33 sri i wanted to link to new events and methods too... but it's soooooo many :o
07:39 tempire seems like sharifulin should change his module to be ::i18n
07:40 tempire oh, it's not even on cpan yet
07:40 tempire :s
07:48 bc547 any idea how long does it takes before it is available on cpan?
07:48 marcus good morning hackers!
07:49 marcus congrats on 3.0 :)
07:49 marcus retweeted.
07:51 Topic for #mojo is now Mojolicious real-time web framework 3.0 🌈 http://mojolicio.us 🌈 http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today
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07:59 tempire bc547: available now
08:01 sri the mirrors may take a little longer
08:02 sri argh
08:02 sri http://hackerne.ws/item?id=4160752 # <- it has already been posted
08:03 sri EMERGENCY UPVOTE! :D
08:03 * sri shakes marcus, tempire, crab, marty, memowe, DaTa, yko, garu, diegok and everybody else who might be awake
08:03 tempire done
08:04 marcus 4 points
08:04 sri and frontpage
08:04 marcus also tweeted.
08:05 sri marcus++
08:05 sri and retweeted
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08:08 pau4o $tweets++
08:08 tempire and there you go
08:08 tempire hackernews gaming detection has gotten smarter
08:09 tempire same thing happened with me and the last mojocast
08:09 sri hmm, and kicked to page 2, moar upboats!
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08:10 sri i don't think it's smarter, it just doesn't stay on page 1 with under 10 votes for very long
08:10 marcus interesting, it's behind Tragic, unforgettable, classic, from 2 hours ago with 5 upvotes.
08:10 sri oh
08:10 tempire yeah.
08:10 sri could be mods trolling us too
08:10 tempire It negates the efforts if it detects something.
08:11 sri but what does it detect? the votes are legit
08:11 marcus maybe it's running a twitter search? :)
08:11 marcus 'penalize posts with links from twitter'
08:11 sri what would be the logic behind doing that?
08:11 tempire don't know exactly, I've just seen the clear effects several times.
08:12 sri everybody posts links to twitter after all
08:12 sri heck, random people will do it
08:12 sri ooh
08:12 sri frontpage again ;p
08:12 sri #30
08:13 marcus I see it on 31.
08:13 sri heh
08:13 tempire wish I had a good comment that wasn't marketing or flamebait
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08:14 sri if in doubt... link to more information about modern perl :)
08:16 marcus commented
08:17 sri s/ioloops/event loops/
08:17 tempire ioloops and upboats
08:18 sri the ranking is just weird
08:19 sri there's another one with 6 upvotes and no comments, frontpage for one hour
08:19 tempire There's no doubt in my mind that it's penalization according to a pattern
08:20 marcus getting more retweets than upvotes :p
08:20 sri no way it's that clever
08:20 sri lol
08:20 marcus I bet they prefer natural upvotes
08:20 marcus people going to HN and clicking from the frontpage
08:20 marcus rather than direct linking
08:21 tempire could be if there's a direct link upvotes in succession over a short period of time
08:22 sri that would make sense
08:22 tempire it's marcus' fault!
08:22 marcus I blame bejeezus
08:23 sri you just marcus'd everything
08:23 tempire oh snap!
08:24 marcus urban dictionary tells me that's a good thing - http://www.urbandictionary.​com/define.php?term=marcus
08:24 tempire sexually stunning and fly
08:24 marcus for a white guy
08:24 sri YOU WROTE THAT!
08:25 tempire look at all the definitions for marcus
08:25 marcus sri: then you wrote http://www.urbandictionary.c​om/define.php?term=sebastian :p
08:25 tempire oh, the last one is the best.
08:25 sri :D
08:26 * marcus punishes tempire's toilet
08:27 tempire hmm
08:27 tempire third definition of glen: "By day, a normal man, but when the sun goes down, a beast, half crazy drunken mexican, half manicallly depressed clown"
08:27 sri makes sense
08:28 tempire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9FFfuqMWnw
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08:36 tempire I am no longer amused by being awake.
08:36 * tempire retires
08:52 sri nn
09:04 sri btw. that weird windows bug from a few weeks ago was fixed with a new windows service pack or so
09:05 sri (the one cpantesters fail we had)
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10:21 memowe sri: I feel shaked!
10:35 batman 3.0?!
10:35 batman what do i need to fix? :)
10:36 * batman is reading changes
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11:09 memowe batman: 3.0 accidentally the whole internet!
11:10 marcus no accident!
11:10 batman i don't get that sentence :/
11:12 memowe no problem. :)
11:12 daxim learn2meme, batman.   https://encrypted.google.com/s​earch?q=accidentally+the+whole
11:13 daxim http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/​p99/penguin_poet/allstar-batman.jpg
11:13 batman "meant to exploit the imagination of English-speaking internet users" <-- guess that's why i didn't get it :)
11:14 daxim you speak english, you're on the internet, you're the goddamn batman:  you are expected to know this.
11:14 batman didn't == still don't get it, but that's ok.
11:14 batman daxim: haha
11:14 batman i cannot come up with the missing verb...
11:15 daxim the whole verb accidentally
11:17 memowe OMGWTFBBQ! BATMAN IS ON TEH INTARWEBS!
11:17 memowe batman: you have to understand that the verb intentionally.
11:18 batman it's funny because it's in caps :)
11:18 batman that sentence does not make any sense. will have someone offline explain it to me later tonight :/
11:18 batman the sentence has syntax error. i cannot compile it.
11:18 memowe batman: that can't be explained "offline".
11:20 batman :/
11:32 yko sri: done
11:32 yko I'm very fast! :D
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12:22 Topic for #mojo is now Mojolicious real-time web framework 3.0 🌈 http://mojolicio.us 🌈 http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today
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15:04 diegok sri: besides the grep/map thing, do you still think example main idea is fine?, I can rework it...
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15:20 diegok ^ something more like this: https://gist.github.com/2991364 ?
15:31 gizzlon hey
15:31 gizzlon you guys seen this: http://www.threadless.com/pr​oduct/2604/Technicolour_Rex/
15:32 gizzlon both a raptor AND a rainbow :)
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15:44 nicolasbd hello
15:54 diegok gizzlon: oh!, it looks great for a mojolicious t-shirt! :-/
15:54 diegok hello nicolasbd
15:54 nicolasbd diegok: lemme see ! lemme see !
15:54 marcus GIEF
15:55 diegok http://www.threadless.com/pr​oduct/2604/Technicolour_Rex/
15:56 nicolasbd I'd rather wear the Mojolicious icon cloud
15:56 nicolasbd :)
15:57 diegok marcus: http://www.urbandictionary​.com/define.php?term=gief hope you're not using the third form :-p
15:59 nicolasbd haha
15:59 nicolasbd weird
15:59 marcus diegok: no, idiot word for 'give' :)
16:01 diegok marcus: that's fine ;-)
16:02 diegok Oh!, what happened with the http://kraih.spreadshirt.net/ store? :-(
16:09 marty moin
16:10 marcus diegok: gone
16:10 diegok grrr
16:11 marty Does anyone know.. is Mojolicious::Plugin::Authentication up to date and still relevant for use?
16:11 diegok it was a perfect gift for a coworker getting in love with mojolicious...
16:12 marty I've got to start working on the sessions code in my app and I'm wondering if that is the way to go
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16:13 marcus marty: it probably is.
16:15 nicolasbd yihha ! hello v3
16:16 marty Thank you, marcus
16:17 nicolasbd well .. not sure if it was a good idea to update now
16:17 nicolasbd ah, no problem till now .. good
16:17 marcus regrets, I've had a few
16:17 marcus but then again, too few to mention
16:22 nicolasbd bye
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16:24 marcus I DID IT MY WAY!
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17:31 sri \o\
17:38 marty /o/
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17:43 GitHub149 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/8Q2fMg
17:43 GitHub149 [mojo/master] better render_not_found and render_exception example - Sebastian Riedel
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17:43 sri diegok: i've cleaned it up a little more
17:50 sri diegok++
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18:10 GitHub140 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/pn5jQg
18:10 GitHub140 [mojo/master] improved rendering guide a bit - Sebastian Riedel
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19:53 tempire neat
19:53 tempire wikipedia page already updated
20:01 sri \o/
20:02 sri tempire: btw. i think this gist answers your question to sharifulin :) https://gist.github.com/2971344
20:04 tempire I almost like the idea.  but it moves in the opposite direction of readability.
20:05 tempire not to mention all the one-letter imports
20:05 sri ojo would have to be redesigned from scratch
20:05 sri but it's not too far from the baby mojolicious idea i talked about a few weeks ago ;p
20:06 tempire I presumed you were talking about a fully dsl version
20:09 sri naah, the just the absolute minimum to write tiny web apps
20:14 sri https://github.com/kraih/moj​o/blob/master/lib/ojo.pm#L64 # <- stuff like this would have to go if we changed focus on making ojo more versatile
20:15 tempire http://brackets.io/
20:16 tempire inline editing of syntax highlighting
20:16 tempire there's all kinds of neat ideas in here
20:16 sri from adobe *cough*
20:16 sri inline editing is nice though
20:17 tempire video is worth watching: http://blog.brackets.io/
20:18 tempire hmm, didn't notice adobe
20:19 tempire I do like that adobe is moving everything toward javascript
20:19 tempire WHAT
20:19 tempire raspberry pi's are available to order
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21:38 dypsilon Hi everyone, congratulations on the 3.0!
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21:47 memowe \o/
21:52 sri \o/
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22:16 nic Sublime Text 2 v2.0 is out http://www.sublimetext.com/2
22:17 sri yea, and the Mojolicious plugin now supports highlighting lite apps with DATA sections
22:17 sri no more tmbundle needed
22:20 marty kewl.  Sublime 2.0 supports retina display.   I can't wait to try it out.
22:22 marty I'm sure you guys have seen this.  But this is sooooo funny.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8_Kfjo3VjU   (sales guy versus web dude)
22:32 sri lol
22:44 dypsilon lol the best part is logging in to the email account of the boss and removing the email from sent messages
22:47 marty Yep.  And I like the "You can't arrange them by penis" line.  classic
22:48 dypsilon :D
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22:59 * sri still can't get over sublime text 2 resetting the caret position after perltidy
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23:09 vervain I always liked the fact that his browser was already on 'Monster' :)
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