| Time |
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Nick |
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| 00:38 |
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sri |
hmm |
| 00:38 |
|
sri |
the config plugin currently makes the configuration available as $self->stash('config'), is that a feature or bug? |
| 00:39 |
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sri |
or more specifically, as $app->defaults('config'), which gets merged into the stash for every request |
| 00:46 |
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* sri |
demands answers! |
| 00:54 |
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marty |
hmmm. I use stash_key when loading json config files. |
| 00:54 |
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marty |
Not sure if they will collide. |
| 00:54 |
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sri |
what is stash_key? |
| 00:56 |
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marty |
http://search.cpan.org/~mrambe[…]nfig.pm#stash_key |
| 00:57 |
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sri |
oh, i don't remember that, it's not there anymore it seems |
| 00:57 |
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marty |
Well, I guess I better fix my code. :) I've not looked at that section for a while. |
| 00:58 |
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sri |
maybe more evidence that the config stash key might be a bug |
| 01:00 |
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marty |
Ahh, I see what I did. Redundant. $config = $self->plugin('JSONConfig', { file => 'site.json', stash_key => 'config' } ); |
| 01:00 |
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marty |
prolly the stash_key has not been working for a while. |
| 01:01 |
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sri |
interesting, so you are using $config? |
| 01:01 |
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marty |
I think so. Let me check |
| 01:02 |
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marty |
Yes, I am |
| 01:02 |
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marty |
and it works |
| 01:02 |
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sri |
it also has tests, just no documentation |
| 01:04 |
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sri |
marty: you use it in templates? |
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sri |
i can see app->config->{foo} being a lot more annoying to type than $config->{foo} there |
| 01:05 |
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marty |
Yes. Templates and layout |
| 01:05 |
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* marty |
nods |
| 01:05 |
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GitHub151 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/f9PFCA |
| 01:05 |
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GitHub151 |
[mojo/master] fixed config plugin documentation - Sebastian Riedel |
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| 01:05 |
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sri |
then lets declare it a feature :) |
| 01:06 |
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marty |
\o/ |
| 01:06 |
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marty |
For once, I am ahead of the curve. :) |
| 01:06 |
|
sri |
\o/ |
| 01:07 |
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Akron |
3.0! I'm here! I've got beer! Is the party already over???! |
| 01:08 |
|
sri |
you missed it |
| 01:08 |
|
Akron |
WHAT?! |
| 01:08 |
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sri |
we completely marcus'd the hackernews post though :) |
| 01:08 |
|
Akron |
DAMN! All the beer now ... for nothing? |
| 01:09 |
|
Akron |
Hackernew...beer! I am talking about beer!!! |
| 01:10 |
|
Akron |
Well ... congrats to everyone bringing 3.0 to life - especially you. |
| 01:10 |
|
sri |
\o/ |
| 01:11 |
|
* sri |
steals a beer |
| 01:11 |
|
Akron |
It#s free! It's on the internets! |
| 01:12 |
|
sri |
i brought a whole beer keg... where do i fill it up?! |
| 01:13 |
|
Akron |
You need an API? |
| 01:15 |
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Akron |
(Oh - TAP isn't a valid http verb ... that's wrong.) |
| 01:20 |
|
Akron |
Just out of curiosity: What was the reason against ->respond_to(qr/json/ => sub { ... }) etc. - so regexes as keys in respond_to? |
| 01:22 |
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sri |
don't think that was ever brought up for discussion |
| 01:22 |
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Akron |
I have an idea: Allow qr/.../ as keys of respond_to! |
| 01:23 |
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sri |
what's the advantage? |
| 01:24 |
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Akron |
For example if I use jQuery I somehow know the sequence of accept-headers and I could make it a rule in respond_to, ignoring all the complicated preference stuff of "accept". |
| 01:25 |
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sri |
that sounds very anti REST |
| 01:26 |
|
sri |
brute for content negotiation |
| 01:26 |
|
sri |
*force |
| 01:27 |
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sri |
i can see that being a plugin, but not for core |
| 01:27 |
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Akron |
Oh, is REST still hip? |
| 01:28 |
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sri |
considering REST is really just about using web technologies the way they were intended, i don't think it will ever go out of fashion |
| 01:29 |
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Akron |
I thought it was out of fashion nearly a decade with no one complaining ... ;) |
| 01:29 |
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sri |
HATEOAS is all the latest hipness btw |
| 01:38 |
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Akron |
That's still pretty short for an abbreviation that tries hard to impress. ;) |
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sri |
hmmm |
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| 05:54 |
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sri |
interesting attack SomeModel->insert({type => 'user', name => $self->param('name')}) with query ?name=sri&name=type&name=admin |
| 05:55 |
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sri |
since ->param('name') returns all values in list context it would end up as {type => 'user', name => 'sri', type => 'admin'} |
| 05:56 |
|
sri |
tempire, marcus, crab: solve the problem! :) |
| 05:57 |
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sri |
all perl frameworks are affected btw., since we all cargo culted the shitty CGI.pm API |
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| 06:15 |
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tempire |
that problem is already solved |
| 06:16 |
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sri |
is it? |
| 06:16 |
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tempire |
it's a solution I like to call considering the implications of your data model |
| 06:17 |
|
tempire |
I don't know that there's any surefire way to prevent such a thing |
| 06:18 |
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tempire |
given that the situation would imply the user is not checking the data before it goes into the db |
| 06:18 |
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tempire |
s/user/developer/ |
| 06:20 |
|
tempire |
I guess I don't view that as a security issue as much as a careless implementation |
| 06:20 |
|
tempire |
not that I've ever done anything careless |
| 06:20 |
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* tempire |
keeps his mouth shut |
| 06:22 |
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stephan48 |
maybe make a guide about security and note such obstacles there? |
| 06:22 |
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stephan48 |
f.e. good & bad pratices for such cases |
| 06:23 |
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stephan48 |
cause i dont see it a responsible of the framework to fix the users stupidness |
| 06:23 |
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tempire |
well, it can encourage |
| 06:23 |
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stephan48 |
or even the language, how that ends we see in php |
| 06:23 |
|
tempire |
I wouldn't call it stupidness as much as carelessness or inexperience |
| 06:23 |
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stephan48 |
yea |
| 06:24 |
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stephan48 |
so someone could explain the above attack in a away newbies understand it and also show them ways for input validation f.e. forcing the return value to be a scalar |
| 06:25 |
|
sri |
that same problem has recently been exploited in rails |
| 06:25 |
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stephan48 |
yup |
| 06:26 |
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stephan48 |
i dont see a reliable way on fixing this on framework level.. |
| 06:26 |
|
tempire |
other than preventing the list context return from ->param |
| 06:27 |
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stephan48 |
yea |
| 06:27 |
|
stephan48 |
i btw use this behaviour |
| 06:27 |
|
sri |
we even use list context internally |
| 06:27 |
|
sri |
for tag helpers |
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| 06:28 |
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stephan48 |
removing that would definitively break backward compatibility |
| 06:28 |
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sri |
it's also important for compatibility with all the cpan modules supporting the CGI.pm ->param api |
| 06:28 |
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stephan48 |
yea |
| 06:29 |
|
tempire |
the whole list context is basic perl convention, it would be a shame to discard of it. |
| 06:30 |
|
tempire |
we could php the problem away and have a new method called param_single |
| 06:30 |
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stephan48 |
ye |
| 06:30 |
|
sri |
lol |
| 06:31 |
|
tempire |
I even lol'd myself on that one. |
| 06:31 |
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stephan48 |
nonsense, cause most people/apps will probably continue using ->param(...) |
| 06:31 |
|
stephan48 |
ye |
| 06:32 |
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stephan48 |
lets just mimik phps ?bla[]= behaviour then we can be safe |
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| 07:16 |
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marcus |
sri: catalyst isn't affected if you use $c->req->params->{foo} |
| 07:16 |
|
sri |
marcus: same could be said for mojolicious ;p |
| 07:17 |
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marcus |
sri: I guess. Catalyst community encourages the params variant in their docs tho |
| 07:17 |
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marcus |
sri: https://gist.github.com/3002192 |
| 07:17 |
|
* sri |
doesn't want to encourage $self->req->params->to_hash->{foo} |
| 07:18 |
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marcus |
sri: but it's so pretty! |
| 07:18 |
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marcus |
totally beats $self->param('foo') |
| 07:22 |
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marcus |
stephan48: I believe ruby on rails does that too. |
| 07:22 |
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| 07:23 |
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marcus |
http://www.misuse.org/science/[…]arams-and-arrays/ |
| 07:25 |
|
Patterner |
think "What Would PHP Do?" and do the opposite? |
| 07:26 |
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* marcus |
sees a bumper sticker in this somewhere. |
| 07:32 |
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sri |
marcus: http://hastebin.com/raw/semugojuso # something like that sounds sensible? |
| 07:35 |
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marcus |
sri: yeah, something like it. not sure about the second paragraph, seems to be repeating the comment of the first code example a bit |
| 07:35 |
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marcus |
but basically that's the gist of it. |
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GitHub116 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/ZS4xBw |
| 07:44 |
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GitHub116 |
[mojo/master] better description for param behavior - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
proposals for sensibly changing the behavior are welcome of course |
| 08:05 |
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marcus |
changing the behaviour would break pretty much every mojo app out there, so I'd be opposed to that. |
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sri |
mkay |
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memowe |
O HAI o/ |
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i_am_batman |
finally: i've read the changes |
| 10:20 |
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i_am_batman |
nothing too drastic. looks clean. i like it :) |
| 10:23 |
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sri |
i think the times of drastic changes are mostly over :) |
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nicolasbd |
hi all |
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| 12:06 |
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nicolasbd |
Plugin::Mount is so weird .. it's like a random route mounter |
| 12:08 |
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* marcus |
resists making mount jokes. |
| 12:09 |
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crab |
wow, that's weird. it's wacky, like how you can use mount(1) to mount arbitrary filesystems! |
| 12:09 |
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marcus |
crab, otoh... |
| 12:09 |
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marcus |
:) |
| 12:09 |
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* nicolasbd |
can't understand jokes because he's a stupid french guy :( |
| 12:10 |
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marcus |
nicolasbd: are you saying it's not behaving as described by the docs? |
| 12:11 |
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nicolasbd |
well .. no, it's behaving like it should but .. kinda randomously (does this word exist ?) |
| 12:12 |
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marcus |
no |
| 12:12 |
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marcus |
:) |
| 12:12 |
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marcus |
randomly |
| 12:12 |
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crab |
randopotamus |
| 12:12 |
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marcus |
is that a randomly sized hippo? |
| 12:13 |
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nicolasbd |
for example, I have a controller with a method that can "mount" sub apps .. I understood that, if it does it itself, the routes won't be available from other controllers |
| 12:13 |
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nicolasbd |
so I made a method in my main app class, and I call it from my controller like "$self->app->mount($theAppToMount)" |
| 12:14 |
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nicolasbd |
and then I call the route |
| 12:14 |
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nicolasbd |
sometimes it works |
| 12:14 |
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nicolasbd |
sometimes it doesn't :) |
| 12:14 |
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nicolasbd |
best way I found is to mount all subapps in the "startup" method of the main class, but I would love to do it dynamically |
| 12:15 |
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crab |
you have to do it in startup |
| 12:16 |
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nicolasbd |
and then can I call startup in my app ? |
| 12:16 |
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nicolasbd |
to "reload" all routes ? |
| 12:21 |
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nicolasbd |
yes I can |
| 12:21 |
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nicolasbd |
thanks for the precisions |
| 12:25 |
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sri |
like i said before, changing routes after the first request has been handled is not officially supported |
| 12:25 |
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marcus |
dynamic routes at runtime sounds scary |
| 12:25 |
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sri |
it may or may not work, or might break in a future version |
| 12:25 |
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marcus |
nicolasbd: what is the use case for that? |
| 12:26 |
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sri |
small changes to route caching can change runtime semantics completely |
| 12:27 |
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nicolasbd |
sri: well it's ok to restart "startup", sounds coherent to me .. I first wanted a dedicated method, but it's fine like that |
| 12:28 |
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crab |
nicolas: no, you can't call startup again |
| 12:28 |
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crab |
i mean you can, but don't expect good things to happen |
| 12:28 |
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marcus |
it's not meant to work like that, at leaxst. |
| 12:28 |
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sri |
that only doubles the number of routes |
| 12:29 |
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nicolasbd |
marcus: i make a web desktop for internal use in my lab, and I modified the "Generate::App" command to create apps that fits to my ExtJS application, and I want the admin to generate and register apps on the fly, and the user to install them .. and start them without reloading the page |
| 12:29 |
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nicolasbd |
ah, damn' .. so I should "restart" the desktop by reloading the page then |
| 12:29 |
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crab |
then you need to do your own dispatching |
| 12:30 |
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nicolasbd |
nevermind, it's not that annoying .. |
| 12:30 |
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marcus |
uhm, what's running on your page and what's running on the server is two different things :) |
| 12:30 |
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crab |
i don't see how reloading your page makes any difference |
| 12:30 |
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nicolasbd |
ah yes you're right, it wont restart the server |
| 12:30 |
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nicolasbd |
huh |
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sri |
you would have to know how routes work very very well to make it work |
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nicolasbd |
so what could happen if i call startup again ? |
| 12:34 |
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nicolasbd |
i doubles all the routes ? |
| 12:35 |
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nicolasbd |
hey, I could tell morbo to restart the server ? |
| 12:35 |
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marcus |
setting up morbo to watch the folder where you drop your routes would probably work |
| 12:36 |
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marcus |
then having some way of telling your desktop app which apps you have installed through eventlistener or something similar |
| 12:36 |
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nicolasbd |
actually, morbo is watching the folder where new apps are generated, so it might already restart the server each time |
| 12:36 |
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marcus |
yes, it probably does |
| 12:37 |
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marcus |
note that morbo is actually a development server, and single threaded. |
| 12:37 |
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marcus |
it might be right for your particular needs tho. |
| 12:37 |
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nicolasbd |
damn' .. |
| 12:38 |
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marcus |
hypnotoad is our production web server |
| 12:38 |
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marcus |
app server even |
| 12:38 |
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nicolasbd |
but hypnotoad doesn't reload itself when sources change, does it ? |
| 12:38 |
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marcus |
no. but it does support zero-downtime restarts |
| 12:39 |
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marcus |
sri: not sure how you would trigger one easily from inside the app itself? |
| 12:39 |
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nicolasbd |
yeah .. well, me neither |
| 12:39 |
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nicolasbd |
but morbo can be fine for internal use, I don't expect big trafic |
| 12:39 |
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nicolasbd |
well .. yes, actually, it could happen |
| 12:40 |
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crab |
just send USR2 to the right pid, it should work |
| 12:41 |
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nicolasbd |
not sure i'll do that |
| 12:42 |
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crab |
sorry, that was to marcus. |
| 12:42 |
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crab |
i am trying not to get involved in your plan :-) |
| 12:43 |
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nicolasbd |
well .. thank you guys for your explanations, because i was making mistakes without even seeing it |
| 12:43 |
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marcus |
crab: yeah, I understand that would work, but I was wondering if there's an easier way. |
| 12:43 |
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nicolasbd |
crab: haha .. you find it too dirty ? |
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sri |
code changes at runtime pretty much always suck |
| 12:44 |
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sri |
solving one problem will cause two new ones |
| 12:44 |
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crab |
nicolasbd: not dirty exactly, but full of pain and suffering |
| 12:44 |
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crab |
yeah, what sri said |
| 12:45 |
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crab |
but that said, i still think it would be easier to do it with your own dispatcher |
| 12:45 |
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crab |
and not think about changing routes dynamically |
| 12:45 |
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crab |
(or subdispatcher, whatever) |
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sri |
restarting with hypnotoad works because it only leaves the listen socket open but performs a full interpreter restart |
| 12:46 |
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sri |
creating a new app is not just adding routes for it, you also need to propagate those changes to all worker processes |
| 12:47 |
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nicolasbd |
actually, evertyhing works pretty fine with the current code, when "startup" is called after an app has been generated .. if i can keep morbo in prod, it can be ok .. but why shouldn't i ? |
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nicolasbd |
currently, "startup" loads the routes to "mount" from a database, but it could also browse the app directories since they're all well generated |
| 12:50 |
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nicolasbd |
well, i'm kinda new to perl & mojolicious, so i might not realize how much "full of pain & suffering" it is .. everything looks easy to me right now :) |
| 12:50 |
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nicolasbd |
but it might not be the good way to proceed |
| 12:52 |
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* nicolasbd |
killed everybody with impertinence |
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Mad_Dud |
congratulations on 3.0!!! |
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memowe |
\o/ |
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sri |
\o\ |
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nicolasbd |
don't know if you guys heard about that, but a young french ubuntu forum moderator died from cancer (at 23 .. ouch), but he had prepared a message, placed in the trash, to be seen after his death, where he's kind of sad to leave, but happy to talk .. weird but cheerful |
| 13:03 |
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nicolasbd |
he also donated all his student bank account content to the ubuntu community |
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memowe |
wow... |
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marcus |
sublime text 2.0… hmm |
| 13:16 |
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marty |
Am I correct: Sublime text 2 - Mojolicous bundle does not highlight css or js in embedded blocks? ie: %= stylesheet begin .... % end |
| 13:16 |
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marty |
Sublime text 2 with Soda is very compelling. |
| 13:19 |
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marcus |
marty: probably right |
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sri |
marty: i'm sure the maintainer accepts pull requests :) |
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marty |
Ya. I was wondering who maintains it |
| 13:21 |
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sri |
i opened a ticket for __DATA__ support a few days ago and he added it already |
| 13:21 |
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marty |
My Jedit does highlighting of css and js within templates so I'm used to it. I just have to read up on how the syntax files work |
| 13:21 |
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marcus |
probably https://github.com/njlg |
| 13:21 |
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sri |
https://github.com/SublimeText/Mojolicious |
| 13:22 |
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marcus |
wow, he misspelled Controller at the top of his web page =) http://njlg.info/ |
| 13:23 |
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nicolasbd |
hey .. not bad, i'll install it into sublime. I'd love to have such a stuff in Webstorm, because the coloration goes crazy when I put some "%" in it |
| 13:23 |
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marcus |
but he's into Mojolicious at least :) |
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marty |
The Soda theme is so nice. (Found it from sri's tweet) |
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marcus |
it's awesome, now that they've revamped it. |
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* sri |
can't wait for the dark soda theme to get updated |
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bjoernfan |
Hello. |
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marty |
Ahhh, it does highlight css and js if you use <style></style> and <script></script> |
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* sri |
waves |
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marty |
HI bjoernfan |
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bjoernfan |
I'm running a cronjob doing svn update; hypnotoad script/foo. It works great (it updates and continues to run), but apparently it segfaults every time. |
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marcus |
is that like a fan of bears, or a fan of bjørns? |
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bjoernfan |
Does that sound familiar to anybody? |
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marcus |
bjoernfan: not really. |
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bjoernfan |
My name happens to be Björn, and "fan" is kind of a curseword in Swedish. |
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bjoernfan |
:> |
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bjoernfan |
trivia |
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marcus |
fairy snuff :) |
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sri |
segfault is a serious problem, prolly a perl bug or broken xs module |
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bjoernfan |
kernel: perl[31984]: segfault at a80 ip 00007f2401552e52 sp 00007fff77b17c30 error 4 in libperl.so[7f24014be000+162000] |
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bjoernfan |
Every twenty minutes, as per my cronjob. I commented it out and it stopped. |
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memowe |
bjoernfan: http://fave.mind-exchange.com/[…]/10/metal-fan.jpg |
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bjoernfan |
memowe: Maybe I'll check jpegs from home instead of on the job. :P |
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memowe |
Its SFW |
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memowe |
s/Its/It's/ |
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bjoernfan |
CentOS 6.2, 64-bit, 5.10.1 |
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bjoernfan |
Same thing happens on a 32-bit machine running the same version of Perl. |
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bjoernfan |
memowe: Yeah, I came to think of that "What about our huge fans?" or whatever she says in is it S05E01 or S06E01. |
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bjoernfan |
:> |
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marcus |
Hva er upplysningsinstitutet? |
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memowe |
eh eh eh eh |
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memowe |
He does it again #thatfunny"language" ;) |
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bjoernfan |
marcus: Placeholder so far. It's a bit long to type out... I usually just type the IP instead. |
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crab |
do you say fy faen in swedish too? |
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marcus |
crab: they just say 'fan' |
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marcus |
bjoernfan: sounds like a good organization tho :) |
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marcus |
bjoernfan: does the segfault happen if you manually restart from the command line as well? |
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bjoernfan |
Nope. |
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bjoernfan |
marcus: And yeah, thanks, just trying to not get to off topic. :P |
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marcus |
bjoernfan: good luck with that ;-) |
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marcus |
bjoernfan: I would probably upgrade to the latest perl and hope it went away if I was in your shoes. |
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bjoernfan |
sri: Is it possible to get some kind of dumps? |
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bjoernfan |
Yeah, maybe that's it. |
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bjoernfan |
Looks like it's the latest one available from CentOS. |
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bjoernfan |
sri: Awesome job btw, it's a pleasure to work with. :) |
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crab |
i still get occasional core dumps from my mojo app |
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bjoernfan |
Where do they end up? |
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bjoernfan |
$HOME? |
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Andrei666 |
hey guys, I'm trying to create this bridge |
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Andrei666 |
my $admin = $r->bridge('/admin')->to('admins#auth')->route('/')->to(controller => 'admins'); |
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Andrei666 |
and $admin->route('/#admin_name')->to('admins#home'); |
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Andrei666 |
the admins#home, redirects me to a homepage for admins, which should render the admins name |
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Andrei666 |
the thing is |
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Andrei666 |
if I log in |
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Andrei666 |
the not found page keeps telling me |
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Andrei666 |
it didn't find the page "/admin/admin" |
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Andrei666 |
second admin should be the wild card.. |
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Andrei666 |
what am I doing wrong? |
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crab |
hmm, not sure, but i would say don't chain the first ->route() |
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crab |
$admin = $r->bridge(...); $admin->route('/')...; $admin->route('/#admin_name')...; |
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Andrei666 |
ok |
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Andrei666 |
i'll try |
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Andrei666 |
well..still the same |
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Andrei666 |
None of these routes matched your GET request for /admin/admin, |
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Andrei666 |
in the admin#auth, should i redirect back to something? |
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Andrei666 |
it doesn't sound good, and probably it isn't |
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marcus |
Andrei666: did you look at myapp routes to get the relevant parsing of your routes? |
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Andrei666 |
marcus: the examples from perldoc? |
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marcus |
Andrei666: no, the command ./script/myapp routes |
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Andrei666 |
i did, but I'll double check |
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Andrei666 |
how can I paste them here |
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marcus |
gist.github.com |
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Andrei666 |
so that they won't be too messy |
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Andrei666 |
https://gist.github.com/3004248 |
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Andrei666 |
i want to create, a bridge for authenticated admins, or try to use the under directive...so that only logged admins should ..let's say delete users... |
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marcus |
admin#auth should return true, does it? |
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Andrei666 |
in there, i check if there is 'admin_name' in session.. |
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Andrei666 |
and I just return... |
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Andrei666 |
i'll test now.. |
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Andrei666 |
god damn it... |
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marcus |
:D |
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Andrei666 |
marcus: big thanks... |
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Andrei666 |
i was just returning, |
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Andrei666 |
now with a return 1; it's all ok :) |
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Andrei666 |
damn it.. |
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Andrei666 |
i need to learn more perl :)) |
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Andrei666 |
:D |
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Andrei666 |
marcus: (bow) |
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marcus |
you're welcome. |
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Andrei666 |
btw...congrats to you on the new release :) |
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Andrei666 |
mojolicious is the only framework that I work now... |
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Andrei666 |
and I'm not looking back to the others... |
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Andrei666 |
i just keep trying to learn more and more..:) |
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marcus |
:) |
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memowe |
coffeeeeeeeee! |
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wonders what is wrong with the dark soda theme |
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nicolasbd |
hello again |
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crab |
hi again |
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nicolasbd |
sorry if this is another stupid question, but what is "dispatching" ? and do you think it's a good idea to use the "before dispatch" hook to check something (for example, if user is logged in), and do something depending on it ? |
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marcus |
nicolasbd: it could be. We usually use bridges. |
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nicolasbd |
oh ok, didn't see that |
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nicolasbd |
so, you define a route, and you define a bridge for the same route, that check things and return 1 or 0 ? |
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nicolasbd |
well, no, I'm not sure since the example makes a bridge for "/foo" and a route named "/bar" |
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nicolasbd |
in my case i should have a bridge on "/" and all routes attached to this, is that right ? |
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nicolasbd |
yeah, bridges look cool |
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nicolasbd |
thank you |
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nic |
ooh, MOJO_NO_IPV6=1 has just removed the bonkers error I was struggling with; I must be suffering from out-of-datedness |
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nic |
hm, that's not true |
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nic |
It must have been running in development mode by mistake; wow I need more coffee |
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nic |
pfff, half a cup of coffee and it becomes obvious I'm using the wrong process gid |
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i_am_batman |
hi |
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i_am_batman |
why doesn't the hidden_field use ->_input() like the rest? |
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* marty |
just sent a pull request to the sublime text 2 - Mojolicous plugin author to highlight css and js in templates |
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i_am_batman |
marty++ |
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* marcus |
tries to hide his shame. |
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marty |
Hmmm, on my sublime text 2, the cursor jump after applying perltidy is intermittent. Might be possible to find a fix. |
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Topic for #mojo is now Mojolicious real-time web framework 3.0 🌈 http://mojolicio.us 🌈 http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today |
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sri |
marty: i can confirm that |
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sri |
marty++ # btw |
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diegok |
o/ |
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diegok |
sri: thank you for include my example!, I was expecting your opinion before preparing a pull request but you did it all so fast!, as always :) |
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nic |
http://hastebin.com/rihokiseki.coffee |
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nic |
That problem is spoiling my party |
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diegok |
When I mount other mojo app and both apps has a helper that creates and return an object. The app will have two of those objects on each fork? |
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nic |
When I do "./myapp daemon -u ebdb" it isn't running as 'root', but nor is it behaving the way 'ebdb' does in the shell |
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nic |
hm, the process definitely has GROUP and RGROUP correct |
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diegok |
nic: it works here |
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nic |
bizarre |
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diegok |
nic: http://hastebin.com/requsufane.coffee |
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nic |
drwxr-s--- 3 root ebdb 4096 Jun 26 15:46 /var/local/auth/ebdb |
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diegok |
I run it with my user... |
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diegok |
nic: it change something to you when you change user? |
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nic |
In a normal perl script, the ebdb:ebdb user sees it as a dir, but not when running from a Mojolicious::Lite daemon |
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diegok |
nic: in my case it works as expected |
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diegok |
giving this is just normal perl program |
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diegok |
that uses mojo library |
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nic |
diegok: in your test, does the path have similar permissions? |
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diegok |
the path is my homedir :) |
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nic |
I think it might be central that the dir is only readable by virtue of its group |
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diegok |
nic: oh!, I just re-readed your paste (I've missed the thing that running with -u root work's_ |
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nic |
hm, I was wrong; even if 'ebdb' is the owner of the dir, it still gets 'false' for ' -d <dir>' |
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nic |
I realise I'm probably doing omething dumb, but my test example is so small I'm failing to see how to cut it down further |
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nic |
right, it's something to do with the permissions of the ancestor dirs |
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diegok |
nic: hm, same here when I test -f on a file that only has owner rw |
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diegok |
works off mojo, fails inside... |
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nic |
in my parent dir, the 'ebdb' user has zero permissions |
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nic |
for some reason a normal perl script doesn't care, but the daemon script does |
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diegok |
:-/ |
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nic |
http://hastebin.com/nemaximuwa.vhdl |
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nic |
...is a clearer illustration |
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nic |
Shows that ojo gets it right but Mojolicious::Lite gets it wrong |
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nic |
(if the two small scripts are the same) |
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nic |
sri: Where's the best place for bug reports? github? |
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dog_chocolate |
Hi, anyone know what's going on with this (likely) schoolboy error? http://i49.tinypic.com/359d6qa.jpg |
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dog_chocolate |
Here's a dump on the mojo app that's producing it http://pastebin.com/h2VtpjRc |
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dog_chocolate |
bridge + route are at the bottom |
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dog_chocolate |
surely that should work? |
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sri |
nic: what bug? |
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marty |
dog_chocolate: Not sure if this will help but maybe removing the lading slash on the bridged route? ie: $app->route('test/general')->to(controller => 'test', action => 'general') |
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marty |
s/lading/leading/ |
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sri |
marty: leading slash doesn't matter |
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sri |
same for trailing slash, we ignore both |
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dog_chocolate |
marty, cheers,yeah i had it without initially no go =/ |
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marty |
Ahh, I did not know that. Now I do. :) |
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sri |
\o/ |
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dog_chocolate |
just getting to grips with mojo... i had some very similar code running under 2.8/2.9 + im pretty sure it worked, might try running it under that |
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marty |
I'm using bridge routes with 3.0 and they work great. So whatever it is, I don't see it. |
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nic |
sri: Did you see http://hastebin.com/nemaximuwa.vhdl |
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nic |
I'm guessing I should open an 'issue' on github? |
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sri |
nic: i don't see a bug |
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nic |
Are the two bits of code different? |
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sri |
i don't know, but the chances that this is a mojolicious bug is very very very small |
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sri |
perl quirk maybe |
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sri |
you're welcome to open a ticket, but i don't see it go anywhere |
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nic |
surely ojo and Mojolicious::Lite should give the same answer? |
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sri |
dunno |
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sri |
and it's not ojo vs Mojolicious::Lite but oneliner vs script |
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nic |
I guess I need to try a full Mojolicious implementation then, in the hope my app will work under that |
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sri |
very unlikely |
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sri |
i'm 99% sure it's a perl quirk |
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sri |
https://github.com/kraih/mojo/[…]er/Daemon.pm#L226 |
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sri |
that's all we do for user switching |
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nic |
Ah, are you thinking that ojo is closer to the shell and Mojolicious(::Lite) are more prone to perl quirks? |
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sri |
oneliners might retain their parents permissions or something stupid like that |
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nic |
I see |
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sri |
it's prolly even platform dependend, those uid/gid syscalls behave different all the time |
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nic |
sri: I've just run different tests which confirm you're right |
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sri |
:) |
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nic |
=> perl oneliners inherit special powers of the original invoker |
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nic |
It might be the difference between actual guid and apparent guid |
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nic |
So if you run a oneliner as 'root', even though you can get the process to run as non-root, it still has special powerzz |
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sri |
POSIX::setuid is supposed to set both... but i suppose it doesn't always work |
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nic |
sri: Thanks for clearing that up; I can stop barking up the wrong tree now and try a different approach |
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sri |
kinda funny how most bug reports these days boil down to perl quirks :) |
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sri |
nic: what perl version are you using btw? |
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* sri |
bets on 5.10 |
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nic |
sri: v5.16.0 on debian linux |
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sri |
oh |
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nic |
i686 and amd64 gave the same results |
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nic |
Can you use "sub production_mode {" in a Lite app? |
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nic |
I'm trying to work out why mine isn't being called |
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nic |
It's picking up the env vars correctly, which set the mode and log level |
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