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amirite |
does mojo's serving of static files slow it down any? |
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amirite |
i.e. with catalyst i used to route the static directory to the http daemon so that catalyst doesn't have to deal with it |
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crab |
argh. it's so absurdly hot. whenever i think about work or code, my brain segfaults. |
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marcus |
amirite yes, it's better to serve static assets through a web server rather than your app server in productino. |
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marcus |
production |
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tempire |
um. |
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tempire |
hrm: http://search.cpan.org/~tempire/Mojolicious-3.02/ |
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sri |
oops, my bad |
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* tempire |
stages a coup! |
| 08:39 |
sri |
there are a few new modules |
| 08:40 |
tempire |
ah, I see the failed notice now |
| 08:40 |
tempire |
I didn't think it accepted the index when failures were present |
| 08:40 |
tempire |
Mojo::UserAgent::CookieJar and Mojolicious::Command |
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sri |
you can reindex now |
| 08:48 |
crab |
reindex or reindeer? decisions, decisions. |
| 08:55 |
tempire |
I'd like to take this opportunity to once again welcome our russian brethren. |
| 08:55 |
tempire |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9GCwNKCzzI&feature=BFa&list=FLwba_QPz5eoqB7m18kmiIwg |
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sri |
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-json-pointer-02 # judging by recent discussions, it looks like ~0 and ~1 escaping will stay |
| 09:00 |
sri |
better than ^ escaping at least |
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* nic |
quickly grabs a copy of the unauthorized version for the black market |
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Grauwolf |
http://cssdeck.com/item/preview/564/dancing-robot-with-reflection |
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sri |
\o\ |
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sri |
/o/ |
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sri |
~o~ |
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tempire |
oooh |
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tempire |
that is just begging to be an easter egg on mojolicio.us |
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Grauwolf |
tempire, my thoughts |
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marcus |
+1 FOR BENDER EASY EGG |
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marcus |
EASTER EVEN |
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crab |
EASY EGG is visible always! |
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daxim |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11320553/mojolicious-test-and-plackup-live-run-different |
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Ulti |
s/pluck/grab/ |
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GitHub189 |
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GitHub189 |
[mojo/master] fixed small namespace detection bug in Mojo::DOM - Sebastian Riedel |
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daxim |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11327639/mojolicious-cant-start-app-with-hypnotoad |
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nic |
For that latest SO question, it seems the app file didn't exist (prob because it's been passed with one '.pl' too many) but the asker says hypnotoad gave no output |
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nic |
(I saw the error in his strace) |
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GitHub27 |
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GitHub27 |
[mojo/master] tweaked Mojo::DOM tests a little - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
perl -Mojo -E 'say f("metacpan.org/search" => {q => "mojo"})->dom("big a")->pluck("text")' |
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sri |
pluck pluck pluck |
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nic |
Anyone seen a perl environment that appends an unwanted '.pl' when you pass 'myapp.pl' to hypnotoad? |
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nic |
(It looks like he's on fedora) |
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crab |
i like pluck |
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amirite |
hmm |
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amirite |
bridges worked fine for running a method before the action |
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amirite |
but what about after? |
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amirite |
i.e. shared method |
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marty |
amirite: after_dispatch or around_dispatch hook maybe |
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crab |
amirite: write your own sub-dispatcher |
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marty |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plucky_Duck |
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crab |
->route(...)->to('foo#bar'); and in foo::bar look at stash('whatever') and decide which method to call after you do your setup and call your unsetup code after. |
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jontaylor |
I just found out the hard way that you can't have a mojolicious controller action called 'new' :p |
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crab |
heh |
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GitHub190 |
[mojo/master] added query string roundtrip test - Sebastian Riedel |
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nic |
sri: If you're in the mood for some spell-check fun, there are several cases for s/\bunsecure\b/insecure/g |
| 14:58 |
nic |
'unsecured' is a valid word, but there are several cases where the context means it should be s/\bunsecured\b/insecure/ |
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sri |
will put it on the todo list |
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GitHub18 |
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GitHub18 |
[mojo/master] mention that XML generated by Mojo::DOM can be encoded - Sebastian Riedel |
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nic |
Has anyone taken the Mojo classes and built something non-Mojolicious with them (yet)? |
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Ulti |
ok this is a bit odd, if I just render some text once I've caught my exception it all works fine, if I redirect_to I get broken out to the Mojolicious Exception page |
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Ulti |
what am I missing? |
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sri |
nic: that's not uncommon |
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nic |
ah, cool |
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sri |
we don't optimize individual components for use outside the framework, but they are only loosely coupled by design |
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GitHub54 |
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GitHub54 |
[mojo/master] more tests for Mojo::DOM charset handling - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
forks of mojo modules to add more standalone features are not uncommon either |
| 15:38 |
sri |
ah, I18N plugin is on cpan now |
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sri |
https://metacpan.org/release/SHARIFULN/Mojolicious-Plugin-I18N-0.8/ |
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marcus |
sharifuln++ |
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marcus |
hmm, the redis driver needs a bit of cleaning up. Like supporting hashes to hmset and not returning arrays of single element arrays... |
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inokenty |
Is there a way to specify default format? For example, I set format 'html' as default, and helper <%= url_for 'route_name' %> would produce '/route_name.html'? |
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crab |
hmm, i think not |
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amirite |
hmm |
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amirite |
pluck |
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jontaylor |
is there any way I can get any of the validation plugins to persist to the next request? |
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jontaylor |
I think its really bad practise to render a post, so I want to redirect to a get page on a validation error, and then show the validation message |
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jontaylor |
but it looks like every validation plugin assumes you are going to be rendering right away! |
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crab |
what do you mean, "render a post"? |
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jontaylor |
when a post action outputs HTML to the client |
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crab |
you think that is bad practice?! |
| 17:55 |
jontaylor |
yes |
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jontaylor |
its bad user experience |
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jontaylor |
when the user tries to hit back and gets "Do you want to resubmit this form" errors |
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jontaylor |
and you also then have to check for duplicate submissions of anything |
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jontaylor |
its far better to do post -> redirect -> get |
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crab |
i see. well, then, it's up to you to deal with the consequences of that decision. you may or may not find it helpful to store something in the flash before redirecting, and check for it in the get handler. |
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jontaylor |
i've got something that kind of works now, based on that principle |
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crab |
but that's all the persistence you can expect. |
| 17:57 |
jontaylor |
$self->flash( validation_errors => $self->validator_error()); |
| 17:57 |
jontaylor |
and then in the get |
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jontaylor |
$self->stash->{'validate_tiny.errors'} = $self->stash()->{'mojo.session'}->{'flash'}->{'validation_errors'}; |
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jontaylor |
but its a bit clunky |
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crab |
right. that's as good as it gets. |
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Ulti |
I'd like to see your websites handle large file uploads... |
| 17:58 |
crab |
well, except that you can call $self->flash('validation_errors') to retrieveit. |
| 17:59 |
Ulti |
the user prompt is especially good user experience when you dont want them to upload it again, and they dont want to wait for it either |
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sri |
don't *ever* use mojo.* stash values directly! |
| 18:00 |
jontaylor |
Ulti: There isn't any issue with file uploads, if they hit back they get the form they got, and they'd have to hit submit button again to do it again |
| 18:00 |
Ulti |
the issue is that you cant URL encode large files |
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jontaylor |
whereas with rendering a post all they have to do is hit refresh, or back from the next page and just dismiss the popup |
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jontaylor |
Ulti: you still submit the form as a post |
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jontaylor |
but on the server instead of just rendering a page, you send a 302 redirect |
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jontaylor |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post/Redirect/Get |
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crab |
sri: (yeah, i was wondering why he decided on that horrible way to access it) |
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jontaylor |
crab: sri: I was just testing the concept before I wrap it up nicely |
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crab |
well, ->flash('...') is what you should use when you wrap. mojo.* should be considered strictly off limits. |
| 18:06 |
amirite |
->smash |
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jontaylor |
crab: I can change it to $self->session()->{'flash'}->{'validation_errors'}; |
| 18:07 |
amirite |
are we still playing let's pick method names? |
| 18:07 |
crab |
why would you do that? |
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jontaylor |
but I can't use $self->flash because that shows new things going in the flash for this request, not what went in the flash for the previous request |
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GitHub17 |
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GitHub17 |
[mojo/master] mention that all mojo.* stash values are reserved for internal use - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
jontaylor: that is not true |
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amirite |
he called you a liar |
| 18:11 |
Ulti |
jontaylor: I created a form that does exactly what you're talking about today using the flash, I just didnt use the built in form validation... though I ended up rendering straight away where I had to catch some exceptions from the post |
| 18:12 |
Ulti |
but thats just because I'm too dumb to work out how to finish off the exception from floating up the stack |
| 18:13 |
Debolaz[Lo] |
OT, but I really hate developing under Wordpress. :-( |
| 18:13 |
jontaylor |
sri: I've just checked the code and you are right, calling $self->flash() should show the flash messages from the previous request |
| 18:14 |
jontaylor |
but I get Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference when I try and do print Dumper $self->flash |
| 18:15 |
sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Controller#flash |
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* sri |
wonders if exception and not_found handling should be hooks, similar to around_dispatch |
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sri |
http://hastebin.com/raw/puvedivofe |
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tempire |
I like that idea. Essentially just sugar for another event? |
| 21:10 |
sri |
an event that sits between render_exception and the code that actually renders the exception templates |
| 21:12 |
sri |
it would be chained so you can intercept |
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crab |
sounds good |
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sri |
i was hoping someone would say it's a bad idea :) |
| 21:17 |
crab |
it's a terrible idea and you should feel bad |
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sri |
\o/ |
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sri |
hmmm |
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sri |
something i wrong |
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sri |
s/i/is/ |
| 21:31 |
sri |
it just works after the first try... this can't be right |
| 21:32 |
sri |
nothing breaks and there seem to be no side effects... that's just wrong |
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tempire |
\o/ |
| 21:35 |
tempire |
let's celebrate! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9GCwNKCzzI&feature=BFa&list=FLwba_QPz5eoqB7m18kmiIwg |
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sri |
should logging the exception be part of the event or ->render_exception call? |
| 21:39 |
sri |
as in, should it be possible to prevent exceptions from being logged |
| 21:40 |
sri |
negative side effect would be that every intercepting hook needs its own logging code |
| 21:40 |
tempire |
well |
| 21:40 |
tempire |
you've allowed such things in the past to be able to avoid purposeful spamming of the log. |
| 21:41 |
sri |
everything that was possible in the past is still possible |
| 21:41 |
sri |
this is all new functionality |
| 21:42 |
sri |
basically, should an around_dispatch hook require a $c->app->log->error($c->stash('exception')) call or not |
| 21:42 |
sri |
umm |
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sri |
around_exception |
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* tempire |
is off to celebrate his independence from evil britain |
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niczero |
jontaylor: prg is for handling successful posts, not validation errors |
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jontaylor |
niczero: I think its still valid even with validation errors |
| 22:09 |
jontaylor |
niczero: although I know its "safe" since the state wasn't changed because it wasn't succesful |
| 22:10 |
jontaylor |
but it still has the benefit of keeping the users browser history clear of the post request |
| 22:10 |
jontaylor |
and it keeps you on the same page as far as the URL is concerned so its less likely to confuse the user |
| 22:11 |
jontaylor |
although I know you can get and post on the same URL and have it route to different things |
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sri |
hmm, i can implement around_not_found and around_exception hooks without adding any additional lines of code |
| 22:12 |
sri |
just not sure how useful both would be |
| 22:54 |
sri |
hmm, now it is actually less code with hooks :o |
| 22:56 |
sri |
around_exception should be rather useful for advanced logging services, sending mails and stuff |
| 22:56 |
sri |
that's currently a rather tedious task |
| 22:58 |
sri |
around_not_found is harder to justify |
| 22:59 |
sri |
why would you want to hook into the 404 response generation? as opposed to just setting a catch all route and in turn disabling the framework feature |
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GitHub123 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/2J42wQ |
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GitHub123 |
[mojo/master] added around_exception and around_not_found hooks - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
please test |
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dpetrov_ |
tempire: any idea what breaks Google::Voice with the latest Mojo::DOM |
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GitHub163 |
[mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/JLfp3Q |
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GitHub163 |
[mojo/master] fixed hook documentation - Sebastian Riedel |
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sri |
http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious#hook |
| 23:26 |
sri |
i'm not yet sure if they will stay |
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dpetrov_ |
basically it works with 2.98 |
| 23:26 |
dpetrov_ |
so the change should be somewhere here https://metacpan.org/diff/file/?target=TEMPIRE/Mojolicious-2.98/lib/Mojo/DOM.pm&source=TEMPIRE/Mojolicious-3.02/lib/Mojo/DOM.pm |
| 23:26 |
sri |
around_not_found is a little questionable, but without it around_exception seems inconsistent |
| 23:50 |
sri |
it's a bit awkward, removing only around_not_found would make the code a lot worse and harder to maintain |
