Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2012-07-11

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00:21 juanfra Hi. What is the minimal version of perl required by mojolicious?.
00:22 tempire juanfra: 5.10.1
00:23 juanfra tempire: thanks! :)
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02:10 * marty just finished brewing a new threaded perl-5.16.0 on his new mac!   Weeee
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10:13 marcus hmm, WebService::Dropbox and Net::Dropbox seem equally bad.
10:14 marcus DROPBOX, Y U USE OAUTH V1?
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10:24 marcus https://metacpan.org/source/NORBU/N​et-Dropbox-API-1.8/examples/dropbox lolwut
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10:39 batman marcus: same with twitter :( why don't they change?
10:40 marcus cause oauth1 is such an awesome protocol?
10:40 marcus :Z
10:41 batman ah! of course... didn't realize that until now
10:41 amirite why you say that
10:41 ZadYree http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumb​lr_m6tzc2PyFd1raai3oo1_1280.jpg
10:41 amirite oauth1 makes me want to cry
10:42 batman amirite: have you seen the difference between 1 and 2?
10:42 amirite yeah
10:42 amirite i've coded a ton of oauth crap
10:43 amirite oauth 1 requires a buttload with a very fragile method for building authentication token/signatures
10:43 batman ok. just curious why you said "why you say that"
10:43 amirite oauth 2 is like "yea, it's cool, whatevs, you're in."
10:45 marcus oauth 1 makes me want to stab a bitch.
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12:12 * sri yawns
12:19 ZadYree Hum got a question: How to retrieve the HTTP method using Mojolicious?
12:29 sri windows test results for master would be nice, i still have no idea if port reuse actually works there
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13:07 * nic rolls up his sleeves and sees about installing a recent perl on Windows
13:08 nic ahhh, thank crunchy for the strawberries
13:17 nic k, I'm ready to run the tests on Win7 with Perl v5.14.2
13:18 nic just as soon as I work out a practical way to do that
13:18 nic sri: Is there a particular .t file you want me to run, or does it need to be all of them?
13:19 sri nic: all of them
13:19 nic k
13:19 nic just confirmed that I can run one of them (mojo/template.t) :)
13:21 batman can i split perl code over multiple lines in Mojo::Template somehow?
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13:24 nic heh, just learning about Windows 'forfiles' cmd
13:27 sri doesn't strawberry have some kind of make bundled?
13:27 sri cmake or so
13:27 nic I don't think I need it
13:27 sri nmake maybe
13:27 * sri scratches head
13:28 nic sri: I'm going to end up with a tree of .txt output files
13:28 nic I can select the ones with errors and pass those to you
13:28 nic What's your favourite method of hurling them over land & sea?
13:28 sri hopefully there will be none
13:29 nic got several errors so far
13:29 sri that's surprising
13:29 nic The version you want tested, is it the latest on cpan or from github?
13:29 sri github
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13:30 nic k
13:30 sri http://www.cpantesters.org/distro​/M/Mojolicious.html#Mojolicious-3.05 # cpan version still looks very good
13:31 nic yeah, my next job is to work out how many of the errors are my fault
13:31 nic but before that i'll make sure I'm using the right version :)
13:32 sri hmm, maybe just run "dmake test"?
13:33 sri that's pretty much the only case that really interests me
13:34 sri if you run them manually or with a script there's just too much to go wrong
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13:41 nic yay, getting fewer errors now; just one so far
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13:49 nic just need to find out where I get dmake from
13:50 sri or nmake, one of them ships with strawberry
13:51 nic ah, np, just found dmake in perl\c\bin
13:57 nic heh, it's comical how much slower this is than running the same tests on linux (on same hardware)
13:58 nic tis a shame that this perl.exe keeps throwing up errors about "The program can't start because LIBEAY32_.dll is missing from your computer"
13:58 nic but that's not related to mojo
14:00 nic sri: Should I have set TEST_MORBO for these tests?
14:00 sri nope
14:00 nic k
14:00 sri don't set any env vars
14:01 nic the error I mentioned previously was due to /lib and /t being on different partitions
14:01 nic so far (using dmake) there are no errors
14:01 sri \o/
14:01 sri nic++
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14:05 nic WOOHOO!!  everything passed, and only took 5.51 cpu hours
14:06 amirite ++amirite
14:06 nic and now this windows box has some rather useful software installed -- it's never had a web server on it -- that'll help things quite a lot when travelling
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17:22 GitHub147 [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/LZZCBg
17:22 GitHub147 [mojo/master] small optimizations - Sebastian Riedel
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17:31 sri oooh, tweetbot for mac public alpha \o/
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19:01 marcus sri: so shiny
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19:30 marty Whew!  Getting mysql installed via homebrew was a bit tricky.
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19:51 sri \o\
19:51 sri /o/
19:53 marty \o/
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21:14 * marcus ate too much apple pie :-/
21:14 * marcus shakes fist at mother in law, and her tasty pastries.
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21:22 marcus batman: great cloudinary post. Is your blog background supposed to be tiling tho?
21:42 batman huh?
21:42 batman tiling?
21:43 batman thanks :)
21:44 batman oh. do you mean that the gradient doesn't have the same color as the actual background?
21:44 batman haven't noticed that until i tilted my screen now :/
21:44 batman *brb*
21:45 marcus batman: yeah, http://nordaaker.no/docs/skitch/jhthorse​n_-_How_to_deliver_your_images_through_C​loudinary_with_Perl-20120711-234548.jpg
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21:52 batman yup. going to fix it now.
21:53 batman marcus: did you see both posts?
21:54 marcus yes
21:54 batman cool
21:54 batman next post will be a lite app with javascript and a complete lite ap
21:54 batman *app
21:54 batman maybe with upload example as well
21:57 batman i think i fixed http://thorsen.pm now
21:57 batman want to verify marcus? *do a hard refresh*
21:57 batman http://thorsen.pm/perl/2012/0​7/11/cloudinary-effects.html
21:57 marcus batman: yepp, a lot easier on the eye :)
21:58 batman excellent!
21:58 batman thanks for the bug report ;)
21:59 batman do you think it will be useful to have complete mojo/cloudinary app example?
22:02 batman also, any comments on how to make my web site more appealing is more than welcome :)
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22:09 marcus batman: you could probably improve on the menu bar a bit.
22:10 marcus but all in all, I think your blog looks pretty good.
22:19 batman could you be more specific?
22:30 marcus batman: the text contrast is a bit weak, and I think the black background feels a bit imposing/blocky
22:31 batman ok. thanks. will have a closer look at it tomorrow (or later today...)
22:31 batman i also want a different main background, but my gfx-skills are in best case limited :P
22:32 batman maybe i should add some bouncing unicorns ;)
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