Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2013-03-16

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02:10 malikai if you don't have good dns, everything sucks..
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13:38 gbh hi, how would you proceed to "internationalize" a mojolicious app, without copying templates ?
13:39 gbh I mean, my templates contain a lot of perl code to display things well, and it would be hard to maintain if I have to duplicate them for each language i want to support
13:40 gbh what is the best solution to store text or phrases for many languages ?
13:42 gbh would that be a good solution ? http://www.bitrepository.com/php-how-to-ad​d-multi-language-support-to-a-website.html
13:47 sri please don't cross post in multiple channels, it's considered very rude
13:48 gbh huh .. ok, sorry
13:52 Britzel_ gbh: I have used M::Plugin::I18N with some success. Works ok.
13:56 gbh Britzel_: hey, thank you ! so it uses a big hash only "instanciated" one time ?
13:57 Britzel_ Yes, it's a large lexicon, one per language. QUite convenient.
13:57 berov gbh: yes
13:57 Britzel_ Useful if you use it with poedit or smimiliar with your translators.
13:58 gbh so you can bind it to .po files ?
13:59 berov gbh: yes
14:00 gbh great stuff
14:09 sri gbh: final warning, please stop crossposting
14:18 crab is crossposting where you post when you're cross?
14:19 sri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
14:19 riche no its grave marking
14:21 basiliscos Hello! I have a trouble with Mojo::Redis. I try to catch published events via the following code (mojo-app.pl) : http://bpaste.net/show/84119/ . It once catches data event ( http://bpaste.net/show/84120/ ), and never catches an message.
14:22 basiliscos I have try in other terminal 'PUBLISH E "abc"' in redis-cli, and that event is catched in another redis-cli (via subscribe) but never in the my code sample.
14:23 basiliscos Thanks for any help.
14:23 sri what is $app?
14:23 basiliscos use Mojolicious::Lite;
14:23 basiliscos my $app = app;
14:24 sri your paste doesn't use Mojolicious::Lite
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14:26 basiliscos sri: Sorry, I pasted a cut version. Here is full example : http://bpaste.net/show/84121/
14:27 basiliscos Can it be related to $redis variable scope?
14:28 basiliscos I mean, that $redis can be collected by garbage collector... ?
14:29 sri app->start should be the last expression
14:31 gbh sri: sorry but as people answered on both channels, how could i manage it ? I will know for the next time
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14:32 basiliscos sri: http://bpaste.net/show/84123/ . I have made app->start the last expression, but that helps not.
14:32 gbh i "crossposted" because in the beginning, nobody answered here .. so why couldn't I ask somewhere else ?
14:33 sri gbh: you asked in both channels at the same time, if you wait some time, then it would be ok
14:35 gbh yeah ok .. five minutes might be short indeed, but how long should i have waited ?
14:36 sri and most importantly, don't have the same conversation in two channels, tell one side you're already getting help
14:36 riche for Plugin::I18N, has anyone used this w tying hash, aka via DBI?
14:37 gbh sri: ok, sorry
14:38 gbh sri: (one joke to finish about that : I'm sorry and my bad mean the same thing ... unless you're at a funeral)
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14:51 basiliscos I have found, that the following version of usage of Mojo::Redis is working
14:52 basiliscos I.e. in case "Mojo::IOLoop->start;" -- it work, but in the case of "my $app = app; $app->start;" it does not.
14:54 basiliscos But I should use Redis together with main application, so I should user $app->start. Is it possible to reach that behaviour somehow?
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15:08 sri basiliscos1: which server are you using?
15:10 basiliscos1 sri: I launch the "x.pl" via the following command: morbo x.pl -w . -l 'http://*:3000'
15:10 sri no idea then
15:11 basiliscos1 sri: in any case, thanks for helping. I'll try to use different perl versions.
15:25 basiliscos1 sri: When I startup application via "./x.pl prefork" it catches the event, but while via "morbo x.pl" it catches not the event. http://bpaste.net/show/84130/
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15:34 basiliscos1 Well. That behavior of Mojo::Redis under morbo is corrret? Or this looks buggy? Should the ticket be opened?
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15:53 marcus I think I'm gonna try using Firefox again for a bit.
15:59 marcus It definitively seems faster than before.
16:10 sri the os x ui is still terrible
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16:55 marcus sri: At least the tab style is preferrable to chrome imo - https://www.evernote.com/shard/s22/sh/3ba9dffc-877​d-4530-90d2-29c1e7b1bda7/e61ca73ad06cfc057cde01ee4​3391f36/deep/0/Screenshot%2016.03.13%2017:53.jpg
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21:14 tempire opera's ui is really nice.
21:14 tempire It's the cleanest looking these days.
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21:15 tempire but webkit dev tools are the clear winner.
21:15 tempire which I guess won't be a problem much longer.
21:15 tempire and...presto! accidentally a webkit.
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22:39 marcus hmm
22:39 marcus Is 12.14 webkit based?
22:40 marcus \m/ # Winning military spending debates on Twitter.
22:46 sri nobody wins at military spending debates
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23:06 marcus sri: Well, the facts were on my side =]
23:14 jberger marcus, I wasn't aware that facts are relevant in an online debate
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23:52 Caelum firebug is very good too
23:52 Caelum firefox is the fastest browser on my macbook, though I use safari

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