Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2013-04-21

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03:54 Adurah Siri, when is 4.0 coming out?
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11:58 wiggle hi
12:03 wiggle what equal interface for post will be for {my $tx = $ua->post_form($url, 'UTF-8' => \%params, {Referer => $url});}
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13:41 sri Adurah: i don't know, why?
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13:49 Adurah Well, hmm...
13:50 Adurah Was thinking of making a MtGox/CampBX bot with the websocket code.
13:50 Adurah Thinking things'd change in 4.0.
13:50 sri there are currently no breaking changes planned for 4.0
13:51 sri (besides removing the stuff that's already deprecated)
13:51 Adurah Alright then, I can give it a shot.
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17:51 tempire +1 generators
17:53 * sri pokes tempire
17:54 * tempire shifts
17:54 * sri has no clue what tempire just +1'd
17:54 tempire http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojo/U​serAgent/Transactor#add_generator
17:55 sri oh
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18:06 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/BHfbEQ
18:06 good_news_everyone mojo/master 075c8fd Sebastian Riedel: better descriptions for content generators
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18:07 sri better call them content generators :)
18:07 * tempire yields to the new name
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18:28 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/CFRafw
18:28 good_news_everyone mojo/master ede2cb5 Sebastian Riedel: documentation tweaks
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18:54 kvorg_ sri: a mango related question - do you consider GridFS support a future feature of the driver?
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18:54 sri kvorg_: i do
18:55 kvorg_ cool. ty.
18:55 sri connection pooling is more important for now though
18:55 sri gotta make mango look good in non-blocking benchmarks :)
18:56 kvorg_ sure. i have a little side project that could benefit from it in approximately 6 months, so there is no rush.
18:57 kvorg_ have you seen any work on any of the nosql engines with anything like GridFS, possibly with deduplication of file chunks and versioning?
18:57 sri i expect gridfs to be a lot easier to implement than connection pooling, so it shouldn't take too long
18:58 sri riak had something like that, but they removed it
18:58 sri was called luwak or so
18:59 kvorg_ ah, interesting. but they have  different backends and it all gets quite complicated quickly, if i remember well
19:01 kvorg_ yes, luwak was a large file API on top of small chunks in Riak, similar to GridFS, but after EOF nobody touched the Github repo and here are no forks in sight.
19:08 kvorg_ Got as far as MogileFS with its pomp and lack of documentation. I'll just wait till I need this and happily replicate filesystems in the meanwhile.
19:08 kvorg_ It looks hard, let's got shoppign moment, I guess. But TY very much.
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20:32 jberger Mojolicious::Plugin::OAuth2 is implemented as helpers, is there a good way to use helpers in a non-app script?
20:34 jberger http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious​/Guides/Cookbook#Application_embedding
20:34 jberger ?
20:34 jberger seems like a bit much, but ok
20:37 kvorg_ jberger: when you think about it, a plugin has the register method that takes application as an argument. it will then call the applications's helper method and feed it its anonymous subroutine to register
20:38 jberger kvorg_, not sure where you are going with that
20:38 kvorg_ jberger: if you are using bits of Mojolicious infrastructure outside an application and you know this is unsupported etc., you can of course just call Plugin->register($fake_app) and make sure $fake_app->helper stores the anonymous subroutine somehwere you like
20:39 kvorg_ jberger: neither am I, what do you want to do? pluginst tend to actually expect an application environment, you know
20:39 jberger hmmmm
20:39 jberger yeah, but OAuth is useful for a UserAgent script too
20:40 jberger except that the Mojo implementation is contained inside a plugin
20:41 jberger I guess I could just write the script as a webapp
20:41 jberger no real problem with that
20:42 kvorg_ yes, that one very much uses the app environement. it would be nice reporting back how it went, showing the code, perhaps patchint the package though.
20:44 * jberger is well aware of how apps work :-)
20:45 jberger but if this project goes far enough, it might be useful to move the OAuth logic in such a way as to be used as function/method on a $ua, or as a helper
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21:10 sri guess we'll have a 4.0 release soon, with no more breaking changes planned
21:33 * sri wonders if Mojo::URL should be able to contain unknown types of URLs simply by not parsing them
21:33 sri as suggested by the whatwg URL spec
21:39 sri http://pastie.org/7692382 # i was thinking something like this
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22:14 sri http://pastie.org/7693612 # and a more finished patch
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22:16 sri my main concern is making it easier to throw mailto/data urls at helpers that pass through Mojo::URL objects (like everything depending on url_for)
22:16 sri link_to being the obvious example
22:17 sri and it's mostly in line with the whatwg recommendation
22:17 sri http://url.spec.whatwg.org
22:17 sri (which is a terrible spec, but quite pragmatic)
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22:31 good_news_everyone mojo/master 44857dd Sebastian Riedel: improved Mojo::URL to be able to contain scheme data for unknown schemes
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22:31 * sri dictates :)
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22:43 good_news_everyone mojo/master 144cead Sebastian Riedel: a few more examples
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23:56 good_news_everyone mojo/master f972dea Sebastian Riedel: a few more Mojo::URL tests
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