Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2013-05-12

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00:18 sri down to 9007 lines :D
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03:14 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Hdg1ug
03:14 good_news_everyone mojo/master 517b6f4 Sebastian Riedel: simplified transaction state management
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03:15 sri and exactly 9000 now \o/
03:17 sri this one even has a noticeable performance gain... gets us even a little above pre ->again numbers :)
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03:50 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/pZxX8A
03:50 good_news_everyone mojo/master c70292e Sebastian Riedel: small optimizations
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04:00 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/5Hxb3Q
04:00 good_news_everyone mojo/master 6a56e8c Sebastian Riedel: improved Mojolicious to not trap exceptions if the default exception handling has been deactivated
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04:00 sri little odd this one had no tests
04:02 sri suppose it got forgotten after hook exceptions were covered by the new exception handling hook
04:02 sri anyway, that trap was preventing plack middleware for exception handling from working correctly
04:03 sri and brings us to 8997 lines :D
04:04 sri anyway, never gonna release 4.0, way too rewarding to fix all those little things i forgot over the years \o/
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12:55 jberger FIX ALL THE THINGS!
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13:40 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/NlOOYw
13:40 good_news_everyone mojo/master 0235d99 Sebastian Riedel: better request tests
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15:52 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/dS9UWQ
15:52 good_news_everyone mojo/master 33adef3 Sebastian Riedel: changed types in Mojolicious::Types to consistently use arrays
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16:13 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/rhaLww
16:13 good_news_everyone mojo/master 7632ce3 Sebastian Riedel: documentation tweaks
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16:19 xxtjaxx Hi! I want to use mojolicious::lite and upload a file and process it afterwards. The JS frontend would request state info using a dedicated url ('/state'). I have a variable $state I declare outside the routes. After the upload Parallel::ForkManager picks up the uploaded file and parses it and process it accordingly (commiting to a database and doing work on the content). When I change the $state inside the route where the upload callback is defined the '
16:20 xxtjaxx jberger++
16:20 xxtjaxx Thanks for the heads up post on Four Oh!
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16:36 xxtjaxx http://paste.debian.net/3769/ this is the code I'm working with. /state always gives the {state:1} back
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17:21 sri best practice is to use something like resque for that kinda stuff
17:22 sri rule of thumb, never fork in a web app
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18:35 marcus sri: Let's not do major releases more often.
18:39 sri we could also switch to the perl dev process, yearly release, all development happens on the dev branch, bugfixes get backported to maint branches by a release manager
18:39 sri with maint releases on demand
18:40 * sri likes developing with total freedom :)
18:40 sri rails uses a similar process as well
18:41 * yko loves the idea
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18:44 sri of course that would mean all big features will take a year to reach a stable release
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18:46 yko but on the other hand, once feature is in release, you can rely on it for at least a year
18:47 yko after all, crazy hackers still may use dev version to enjoy the power of new features
18:47 sri that's true
18:47 yko like perl dev releases you mentioned
18:47 sri more like rails dev version :)
18:47 yko I expect Mojolicious dev releases to be more stable though :D
18:48 sri i doubt anyone really uses perl 5.17 ;p
18:49 yko well, it gives you more room to play with dangerous features and withdraw something back quickly without hearing a lot of kind words from your users
18:51 yko at some point Mojolicious community might want to release LTS version to indicate incredible reliability and support level
18:51 yko (long term deam)
18:52 yko btw, people already try 5.18.0-RC1
19:10 yko All tests successful on 5.18.0-RC1
19:13 * sri is still looking for a better api design for https://github.com/kraih/mojo/blob/mast​er/lib/Mojolicious/Routes/Match.pm#L109
19:18 * sri would also like some suggestions for how to improve the performance of mojolicious (specifically on the Mojolicious layer)
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19:28 stephan48 sri: i like that idea with the release cycle
19:42 marcus +1 for dev/stable branches
19:42 * marcus nominates jberger as release manager :p
19:44 stephan48 thanks you jberger! its so great that you volunteer for doing this job!
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20:02 * sri explains to the mailing list how to use nytprof
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20:17 dabudabu Hmm, redirect_to() doesn't cause the after_render hook to trigger?
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20:26 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/7GvPvw
20:26 good_news_everyone mojo/master a8f7fa2 Sebastian Riedel: more examples for Mojolicious::Routes::Match
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20:39 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/4thGQA
20:39 good_news_everyone mojo/master 4d0341a Sebastian Riedel: better descriptions for Mojolicious::Routes::Match
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20:39 sri hmm, maybe i just don't like the visitor pattern
20:49 * sri wondered how much faster autodie got after hearing so much about it... turns out it still doubles our test times :/
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21:03 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/7c0pVQ
21:03 good_news_everyone mojo/master 311aede Sebastian Riedel: small formatting fix
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22:00 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/KUHhvQ
22:00 good_news_everyone mojo/master fb4a3eb Sebastian Riedel: optimized Mojo::Message object cache
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22:02 sri 8977 lines :D
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22:03 btyler hah, dang, nice. what's the delta for the last week? ~500 lines down?
22:03 sri 250 - 300
22:04 btyler awesome
22:10 sri mojolicious 4.0 - our littlest release yet
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22:27 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/bd8FqQ
22:27 good_news_everyone mojo/master d5452f4 Sebastian Riedel: small optimizations
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22:33 jberger jberger likes rolling releases :-)
22:33 jberger galileo has bumped mojolicious version several times in its short history
22:36 * sri is unsure
22:55 * marcus releases the flying monkeys.
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