Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2013-07-30

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03:12 amirite hi #mojo
03:13 amirite say I want to stop a worker pid and replace it with a new worker instance (i.e. new pid) after it's handle a certain number of requests or hit some kind of maximum memory threshold
03:14 amirite is anything like that built in somewhere or what should i do to creatively implement something like that using hypnotoad
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06:51 olav Hey guys. Whats the preferred way of running mojo in production these days?
06:52 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Moj​olicious/Guides/Cookbook#Nginx
06:53 olav Thanks. Im not sure we can do that though :-/
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07:13 crab why not?
07:15 crab what can you do?
07:16 olav Im not sure ops will like hypnotoad
07:16 olav we usually run Apache2 both as proxy and backend
07:18 olav Ill try to se if I can solve my problems with a plack adapter for mod_perl
07:18 crab using apache as a proxy to hypnotoad sounds way better than trying to use mod_perl and plack and whatnot.
07:18 olav If not Ill give the toad a spin and see what it says :-)
07:19 olav I understand mod_perl is not very much in favor in Mojo-land
07:19 crab it's not really "mojo-land" as such.
07:20 crab everyone seems to be moving towards http-proxying to backend application+servers.
07:20 olav Well here in mod_perl-land its not very much out of favor :-)
07:21 crab you just haven't got the memo yet ;-)
07:21 olav Oh, thats it :-)
07:22 olav The thing is our sysadm guy know Apache relatively well
07:24 sri no self respecting perl programmer recommends mod_perl
07:24 jast not well enough to avoid it, evidently ;)
07:24 olav Lol :-)
07:25 mst olav: and in plack land, we tend to default to Starman
07:25 mst olav: or potentially fastcgi
07:25 mst olav: because mod_perl ... sigh. no thank you.
07:25 jast in our (non-mojo) stuff we use fastcgi... on apache :(
07:25 sri i think the last time i heard someone recommend mod_perl was in 2005
07:25 mst jast: mod_fastcgi w/FastCgiExternalServer works fine
07:25 olav oh, dear
07:26 mst sri: it was probably 2009 or so that freenode #perl bitched at Randal for trying to recommend it and he left in a huff
07:26 mst but other than that, same :)
07:26 mst olav: note: I am -totally- happy with apache + mod_fastcgi + FastCgiExternalServer + Plack::Handler::FastCGI
07:27 mst olav: the forerunner of that code is what replaced mod_perl for me in 2006 or so
07:27 olav Well, Ill have to give it a shot
07:27 jast we do have one thing in production that _requires_ mod_perl... because it implements apache filters or whatever in it
07:28 olav yeah, apache can do everything
07:28 olav thats the strength and the problem
07:31 olav Hey and thanks for your feedback guys - very informative :-)
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08:37 batman mst: what's wrong with a proxy? i've only use reverse proxy the last years...
08:43 batman olav: i use nginx and hypnotoad: https://metacpan.org/module/Mojo​licious::Guides::Cookbook#Nginx (remember proxy => 1 in the hypnotoad config)
08:45 olav Sweet. Im about to give the toad a spin. But I think we can stay with Apache as a proxy
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08:48 batman that's up to you. i like to keep it lean. my personal stuff only run hypntoad, with cloudflare in front :)
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08:51 olav Yeah, well. The thing is that its not entirely up to me ... but everyone else is on holiday :-)
08:52 olav cloudflare looks cute
08:52 batman :)
08:53 batman cloudflare++ # makes my life easy
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08:58 mst batman: under apache, mod_fastcgi has been less hassle than mod_proxy for me
08:58 mst batman: also I'm very very used to it
08:58 mst batman: so "what's wrong with a proxy?" is the wrong question
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09:01 batman ok. nothing wrong then i guess :)
09:04 crab what kind of hassle has mod_proxy been, out of curiosity?
09:05 crab is it a matter of getting all the paths and stuff right in the configuration?
09:05 crab (because that's sometimes quite painful.)
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09:35 olav FYI - it does seem that the toad solves my problem with routing under mod_perl
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09:48 marcus olav: ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
10:02 olav Indeed
10:03 olav qq
10:03 olav Oh, wrong window :*)
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10:51 bd fwiw, this is how I got my app behind mod_proxy to work: http://bc-bd.org/blog/mojolici​ous/mojolicious-behind-apache/
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