Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #mojo, 2013-08-13

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00:19 * sri should not be answering tickets at this hour...
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00:40 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/KXAApA
00:40 good_news_everyone mojo/master 6833f1a Sebastian Riedel: more tests for entities
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08:50 bd hm, docker, build once run anywhere. java tried this, however I remember it with ending in debug anywhere.
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11:50 sri \o\
11:50 sri /o/
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12:10 marcus bd: It's not run anywhere. It's run in the same damn linux containers.
12:11 sri containers all the way down
12:26 bd marcus: it says so on their webpage, about, slide 21
12:27 bd marcus: but may well be marketingsp33k
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14:49 bd has anybody mixed anyevent::dns with mojolicious? becaus I may need to resolve a couple of ips on a request
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18:05 Britzel Call for Papers for Perl room @ FrosCon - in two weeks! Who will give a Mojo talk?
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19:08 * marcus pushes sri in front of Britzel
19:09 * sri is very busy the next few weeks
19:11 * sri pushes marcus in front of Britzel
19:16 marcus sri: it's in germany!
19:16 sri that's almost norway!
19:17 marcus sri: lies!
19:17 marcus sri: just because you guys tried to make it so 50 years ago doesn't make it true :p
19:19 * marcus sure godwin'ed that discussion!
19:19 sri silly german hippies of the 60s
19:21 marcus Britzel: your web page has a typo - 'eigth'
19:23 sri tempire: MANGOCAST!!!
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19:30 sri ooooooh
19:30 * sri was not aware of "perlbrew list-modules | perlbrew exec --with perl-5.18.1 cpanm"
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20:00 Britzel marcus: so many volunteer speakers standing before me - which webpage did you mean? :D
20:00 marcus Britzel: http://www.froscon.de/en/home/
20:01 Britzel ah, that one...
20:01 Britzel that isn't mine, but anyway.
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20:46 tempire whoa
20:47 tempire perlbrew list-modules is awesome.
20:47 marcus agree
20:47 tempire If I make a blocking $ua->get within an event, will it block the entire process?
20:53 tempire guess so.
20:54 batman yes.
20:54 batman if it blocks, it blocks :)
20:55 batman the blocking ua does not share the same ioloop as the non-blocking.
20:56 batman http://thorsen.pm/perl/2013/08/13/toadfarm.html <-- feedback is more than welcome :)
20:57 batman why can't i remember to add the #perl tag??!
21:00 sri batman++ # not messing with internals anymore :)
21:01 batman i'm not? that's a bit disappointing... after all. i am batman
21:01 batman ;)
21:01 batman thanks sri
21:03 marcus batman++ # nice post
21:03 batman sweet!
21:04 marcus Frigg, så lett å bli distrahert av internett
21:04 batman it looks like @perlironman has stopped tweeting about new posts. anyone who knows anything about that?
21:05 marcus I'm supposed to be writing es indexing code!
21:05 batman marcus: wrong channel..?
21:05 marcus batman: just wrong language
21:05 batman ok, hehe
21:06 batman where is the mangocast? maybe i could just put it on as a lightning talk tomorrow ;)
21:07 sri tempire: yea, where is the mongocast?! :o
21:07 sri s/o/a/
21:07 * sri chains tempire to the channel
21:07 batman :)
21:08 marcus mangocast!
21:08 * marcus joins the tribe chanting
21:08 batman i'm thinking about making a cms using mango. sounds super simple, though it's probably not trivial :)
21:09 tempire making a cms is *never* simple
21:09 batman i wonder if there's a *spec* out-there which list stuff that you should implement...
21:09 tempire it's easy.
21:09 tempire make everything editable.
21:09 tempire done.
21:09 sri you start with a blog usually
21:10 batman i want to do something with http://www.appelsiini.net/projects/jeditable :)
21:11 marcus batman: you could port jberger's cms to mongo?
21:11 marcus https://github.com/jberger/Galileo
21:12 jzawodn don't forget permissions... and users.  and uploading of assets.  and scheduled postings.  and...
21:12 batman jzawodn: doesn't sound hard. but please write down a complete list and gist it for me :)
21:13 batman marcus: i will see what state it's in now.
21:13 jzawodn batman: what you need are demanding users!
21:13 * sri wants to 1.0 mango... but is scared of lingering design mistakes
21:13 marcus batman: I'm sure it'll be great, if you just take a random feature list with no idea of what you want and just implement it.
21:14 batman of course. isn't that the recipe for success..? :)
21:14 tempire https://gist.github.com/tempire/6225765
21:14 tempire what am I doing wrong here.
21:14 tempire The request inside the event never happens, but the callback fires.
21:15 sri tempire: SCOPE!!!
21:15 sri you've asked that like 3 times now :)
21:15 tempire :(
21:15 sri $ua gets garbage collected
21:15 marcus tempire: ITYM "wat"
21:16 marcus I so wish I could have arc on perl.
21:16 marcus obj-c spoils me in that regard
21:16 marcus but then it does stupid shit like ignoring messages to nil objects :)
21:17 tempire Even if $ua is declared outside of the event, the request never happens, and the callback happens.
21:18 sri is the event loop running?
21:18 batman tempire: which callback do you refer to? the 55 or 33?
21:18 tempire 55
21:18 marcus tempire: runs here
21:18 batman tempire: have you tried with MOJO_USERAGENT_DEBUG=1 ?
21:18 marcus I get 33 44 55 as output
21:19 marcus after moving the $ua declaration outside the callback
21:19 tempire yep. The connect is attempted. I presume the script exits before the request can be made, but the appearance of 55 confuses me.
21:19 sri cleanup
21:19 batman could be it is run with $tx->error set or something ($_[1]->error)
21:19 sri failed request is still a finished request
21:19 tempire ah
21:26 tempire The best service.
21:26 tempire Ever.
21:26 tempire http://grumpify.com
21:26 tempire er, iphone app.
21:27 marcus https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/1320
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21:28 batman tempire: no iphone?
21:32 tempire then you can't be grumpy.
21:40 marcus http://choir.io/player/f9c750f2bedb0c0f so awesome
21:42 batman sri: is there anyway to mock the mongodb in Mango ?
21:43 sri batman: no
21:44 batman ok.
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21:48 batman so whenever you develop, you got the db installed locally to test *stuff* ?
21:49 tianon batman: he uses one of the online database providers that give free hosting (ala, MongoLabs, MongoHQ, etc.)
21:50 batman oh. what about offline development...? no such thing as offline...? :)
21:50 tianon I personally use a locally installed copy of MongoDB, but know that sri doesn't :P
21:51 batman i will do what you do.
21:51 batman i wonder how parallel testing works when using a shared db...
21:52 sri tianon: actually i have mongodb installed locally too now
21:52 sri so i'm using a mix of local, mongohq and travis-ci for testing now
21:52 tianon oh, very nice :)
21:53 sri running all mango unit tests in under a second is rather nice
21:54 sri compared to 23 seconds with mongohq :)
21:56 tianon lol indeed, I was wondering about the latency :)
23:37 jzawodn I'm finally trying to packagea and deploy some stuff... going from running under morbo to hypnotoad.  but I'm banging my head against logging.  what's hypnotoad do by deafult for logging in my app?  where will it try to write?
23:38 jzawodn if this is in the docs, I missed it.  feel free to slap me with a URL
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23:56 Akron I see no need for Mojo::DOM::Node and think, the API is quite pretty at the moment. Once I thought the system may be faster when (de)?serializing using JSON internally instead of to_xml ... but otherwise I like Mojo::DOM.
23:57 sri jzawodn: http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Lite#Mode
23:57 sri Akron: (de)serializing?
23:57 jzawodn sri: ah ha.  thanks.

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