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IRC log for #mojo, 2013-11-17

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01:01 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/cxciMg
01:01 good_news_everyone mojo/master 0de0c92 Sebastian Riedel: fixed a few "0" value bugs in Mojo::DOM::HTML
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02:33 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/-fp0vA
02:33 good_news_everyone mojo/master c07f904 Sebastian Riedel: improved Mojo::Collection to allow join without arguments
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02:41 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/_51_RA
02:41 good_news_everyone mojo/master 39a4579 Sebastian Riedel: use new feature in test
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04:52 sri i guess it's worth pointing out this little fact https://github.com/kraih/mango/commit/a9a5f29ebd234701d3541704eea3dc45dd8b9055
04:59 mst sri: are t/reactor_ev.t and _poll.t just copies with the class names changed?
05:00 sri not entirely
05:03 sri but mostly
05:04 mst yeah, other than the "how to start" it's functionally identical AFAICS
05:04 mst would you take a patch to factor that out into a ::ReactorTest or something?
05:05 sri nope
05:05 mst not even one in t/lib ?
05:05 sri it's intentional, i want to keep EV completely separated
05:05 sri it's gonna go away eventually
05:06 mst I've gone back to pondering PTokamak, is all, so an official "this is how you test a Mojo reactor class" would be nice
05:06 sri i think PTokamak has failed
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05:07 sri my new hope is a quality libuv binding for perl
05:07 mst eh. there's an IO::Async loop already there. I was going to try building POE and Mojo ones
05:07 mst at which point it would be a viable thing
05:08 mst if nothing else, the interoperability would be extremely handy
05:08 mst even if you don't bother using it other than for that
05:08 sri imo if a project goes dark for a year it's over
05:09 sri but i wish you the best of luck, i'd be happy to be wrong
05:10 mst normally I'd agree with you, but in this case it went dark because I was largely the one driving it and I went dark entirely for quite a while due to running out of living parents
05:10 mst so I'm hopeful that if I give it a solid kick it might still be restartable
05:11 mst sri: if I manage to get to the point where there's working IO::Async, POE and Mojo support would that pass your threshold for 'not over' ?
05:12 mst (because until that happens it might as well be dead, I'll happily admit)
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05:31 sri dunno, guess my threshold would be a small community forming around it again
05:32 mst fair enough
05:33 mst I take it you'd have no problem with me releasing a MojoX::Reactor::PT (or other namespace if you have a preference) ?
05:47 sri no preference, but i guess leaving Mojo::Reactor::PT just in case it ever gets merged into core might be a good idea
05:47 mst that's why I was thinking the X
05:47 mst I assumed that if it wasn't in core, it didn't belong in the Mojo:: namespace
05:48 sri we've not been very consistent there
05:48 sri now there's stuff like Mojo::Redis
05:50 mst I like the idea of MojoX::Reactor::PT and then if it ever goes into core I change it to an empty subclass and re-release
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05:50 good_news_everyone [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/PqBf6Q
05:50 good_news_everyone mojo/master c563610 Sebastian Riedel: slightly more consistent reactors
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05:51 * mst swears
05:51 mst today's fun fact: in mysql, 'foo' = 'Foo ' is true.
06:08 marty woo hoo.  Today is a good day.  Just got my free mongodb shirt for signing up for mms.  and turns out that mms is pretty useful actually.   point in time recovery makes me sleep well.
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06:27 davido nifty: .../mojo/today is 404: forbidden. :)
06:28 davido And now it's back. :)
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08:48 diegok damaya: I've pointed to that because it's what you should do to deploy your app and then you will have that logs you want :-)
08:48 damaya holy crap, talk about a delayed response :D
08:55 damaya diegok, so you're saying that I cannot generate logs with mojo that are in the format of Apache logs?
08:56 diegok damaya: right.
08:57 damaya That's pretty silly considering most statistic apps (e.g., awstats) expect logs in Apache format.
08:58 diegok And... putting nginx on top is a good idea not only for logs, but also to serve static assets and setting up expires...
08:58 damaya So, are you saying hypnotoad falls short?
08:58 diegok That's why the guide recommend to do that.
08:59 damaya That's insane. So, what's the point of hypnotoad?
08:59 diegok well... hypnotoad is a great app server with lot of great features...
09:00 diegok what are you going to use instead of hypnotoad?
09:00 damaya I wanted to use hypnotoad and not have to install Apache or nginx
09:02 diegok well, you can, but that is not a recommended deploy. I don't want my app to be serving static things on production
09:02 diegok or buffering uploads till completion
09:03 * mst wonders what generates the request logs
09:04 diegok I'm pretty sure you can hack your way to make a plugin for logging apache style... but if there is none yet.. there might be a reason :-)
09:06 * diegok wonders if mst is a bot :-)
09:07 Adurah He's time.
09:07 mst damaya: seems like the before_dispatch hook would let you access $c->req
09:07 mst damaya: at which point you could log whatever you like wherever you like
09:08 mst ... or you could quit
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14:36 batman L
14:36 batman oops!
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15:53 * sri wonders why russians have to be such drama queens
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18:02 DaTa drama? gimme drama!
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21:18 basic6_ I'm trying the Mojolicious::Plugin::Mount to show a page from app b (through a route) in app a and the page does load, but the static contents (css) are all missing.
21:18 basic6_ So http://localhost/app-a/app-b/testpage does work but http://localhost/app-a/app-b/css/layout.css does not (404 from app b!?). http://localhost/app-b/css/layout.css (direct, without mount plugin) does however work. what am i doing wrong?
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