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IRC log for #mojo, 2014-05-24

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04:23 * sri yawns
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06:47 nic NO SLEEPING DURING PRESENTATIONS!
06:47 nic esp your own
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07:00 nicomen morning, nice to see day 2 of the conference wont be as hot as yesterday :-)
07:08 sri lets see if i find the venue on my own this time :o
07:09 sri (famous last words)
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07:18 bjoernfan http://www.reddit.com/r/perl/comments/26d1m6/mojoconf_2014_live_streaming_from_oslo_today/ upvote
07:19 bjoernfan Whoever has the power might want to try to put the schedule on justin.tv?
07:20 bjoernfan And nobody linked the live streaming here? Here it is -> http://www.justin.tv/mojoconf
07:21 bc547 nice!
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08:10 * tempire about to watch sri give his first english talk ever
08:10 tempire Which means he's not paying attention to the channel
08:11 bc547 there is no sound on the live stream?
08:11 sri_ what about now?
08:11 purl i guess about now is when I really wish parrot was using git.  Maybe I should give git-svn a try.
08:11 bc547 no sound yet here
08:12 sri_ they're working on it, I think
08:12 bc547 k :-)
08:13 bc547 fixed
08:13 Jonis :D
08:13 Jonis excellent
08:22 Topic for #mojo is now Tune in to the livestream of #mojoconf2014 http://www.justin.tv/mojoconf. There are unicorns. | http://mojolicio.us | http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today
08:23 marcus https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7792927
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08:27 marcus \o/ Minion.
08:30 bc547 indeed!
08:30 Jonis :D
08:31 bc547 are the presentations also viewable at a later time?
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08:40 bc547 no sound again?
08:42 bc547 nm.. presentation is not started yet it seems
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08:45 nicomen bc547: working now?
08:45 bc547 nicomen: yup
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08:54 Jonis hey, are the talks going to be put up on the mojoconf website? That'd be amazing if the ones holding the talk would agree to it.
08:56 bc547 I second that
09:04 nicomen Jonis: we want to do that at least
09:04 Jonis realized I opened the livestream, which is kind of redundant when I'm sitting in the room.
09:04 nicomen hah
09:04 ssm Jonis: it helps the ratings. :)
09:05 Jonis :)
09:08 Jonis should get handles on nametags next time
09:18 tempire mishantil: Here's the talk about 10m connections
09:18 tempire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73XNtI0w7jA
09:18 tempire And a decent summary: http://highscalability.com/blog/2013/5/13/the-secret-to-10-million-concurrent-connections-the-kernel-i.html
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09:43 bc547 no sound again?
09:44 marcus bc547: we'll try restarting the stream now
09:47 marcus No luck :( batman is on the case tho
09:49 bc547 sound is back!
09:53 Jonis yay
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10:00 bjoernfan batman, Jonis: https://github.com/vektra/tachyon and https://github.com/RexOps/Rex
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10:20 marcus Tachyon seems nice, but it's maybe a bit early days for it. I use Ansible, and love it.
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10:30 bc547 ansible++ :-) although grouping multiple actions for 1 task is not possible in an intuitive way
10:32 bjoernfan I have a bit of a bad feeling about ansible :/
10:32 bjoernfan Even if I do like a lot of it.
10:33 bc547 it has its drawbacks indeed
10:35 crab hi.
10:37 crab bjoernfan: why do you have a bit of a bad feeling about ansible?
10:37 crab i have been using it for quite some time now, and i like it. i understood it within a few minutes of first encountering it (which is saying a lot, for me).
10:38 crab i wish i were in oslo. i suck for not trying harder to make it happen.
10:43 marcus crab: I wish you were in Oslo too :-( Next year!
10:44 marcus We have 17 roles in our Ansible playbooks now.
10:44 marcus Should probably open source some of them
10:45 crab have you seen ansible-galaxy?
10:46 marcus Yeah. I kind of wish galaxy had some way of specifying which roles from galaxy you're using in your git repo
10:46 ssm marcus: is there a way to get the livestream onto the wallscreen?  Slides are more visible, although a bit delayed
10:46 marcus like Makefile.PL.
10:46 marcus ssm: nicomen is trying to run the slides on the TV now
10:46 ssm goodie :)
10:46 crab my problem with many of those available roles is that they seem to just transfer all the configuration settings from a file to the ansible playbook, and then write out a configuration file. now, i wouldn't object if everything used a yaml-ish configuration. but i'd rather just write a configuration file and have ansible upload it, possibly with some templating/variable expansion.
10:47 crab anyway. this is #mojo.
10:48 crab s/mojo/sparta/
11:02 bjoernfan crab: Handeling of pull requests, code review et.c. Was like a year since I last followed the development, maybe they got better. No backward-compatability in minor versions (sometimes), accepting pull requests without any real review (as I understood the pull requests I've seen) et.c.
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12:39 igorsutton hi
12:40 Jonis hi
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12:40 igorsutton how you guys test mojo applications with database fixtures? there's something I should use or pretty much roll my own?
12:44 mishantil We have written A Thing that creates thrown-away postgres databases, run migrations, runs tests and removes the database
12:44 mishantil Did not find any usable modules to achieve the same thing, but I am sure there are some.
12:45 marcus I have that thing built into padrino, but I don't know for Perl.
12:45 igorsutton mishantil: Yeah, that's my doubt. I know Ovid's DBIx::Class::EasyFixture module
12:54 marcus hrm, I've been thinking about a helper like this to reduce the async boilerplate needed in controllers: https://gist.github.com/marcusramberg/95fcb78c985cccf3d863
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13:29 cosimo batman is kind of the norwegian brad pitt I think :)
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13:37 marcus cosimo: wat
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13:46 Topic for #mojo is now HELLO WELT
13:46 dududude oops
13:46 Topic for #mojo is now Tune in to the livestream of #mojoconf2014 http://www.justin.tv/mojoconf. There are unicorns. | http://mojolicio.us | http://irclog.perlgeek.de/mojo/today
13:47 tempire oh snap.
13:48 nicomen what?
13:48 tempire cosimo: It might be his shirt.
13:48 tempire That's a sexy raptor.
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13:54 cosimo tempire: might be :)
13:55 bc547 marcus: since you will talk about convos... http://demo.convos.by/register does not appear to work. If I try to register, it hangs and after a while my browser gives 'no data received' error
13:56 marcus bc547: I saw the same thing just now, but it worked if I refreshed
13:56 marcus bc547: will get batman to look into it.
13:56 marcus I don't control the box.
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14:12 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/zoDkVw
14:12 good_news_everyon mojo/master 76f93f9 Sebastian Riedel: added catch method to Mojo::EventEmitter
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14:21 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/IUjNjA
14:21 good_news_everyon mojo/master 5619418 Sebastian Riedel: use catch for exception handling
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14:32 marcus bc547: should be all better now
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15:52 Jonis lightning talk time
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16:36 bc547 video and sound are extemely choppy
16:37 bc547 seems fixed now
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16:47 tadegenban I now write some code use Mojolicouse::Lite
16:47 tadegenban my $user_scalar  = '';
16:47 tadegenban get '/' => sub { ...}
16:47 tadegenban then I defined a sub
16:48 tadegenban sub response{
16:48 tadegenban $user_scalar = 'a';
16:48 tadegenban }
16:49 tadegenban It seems $user_scalar is not set 'a' to the global $user_scalar in my test
16:50 tadegenban I use perl 5.18
16:50 tadegenban I have try the same code in perl 5.14, It correct change $user_scalar to 'a'
16:51 tadegenban anyone help?
16:54 tadegenban https://gist.github.com/tadegenban/1aba3afccfd5ae523725
16:54 tadegenban code like this
16:54 purl i guess code like this is often a draft, rather than the best thing possible :)
16:59 davido_ Can you boil that down to a minimal test case that exhibits the bad behavior, and explain what output you would like to see? An example certainly doesn't need Mojo::DOM, Digest::SHA1, Data::Dumper, Encode, Text::CSV, Data::Dumper (again), Unicode::GCString, UserState, PODRenderer, $content, $user_name, $user, and $response.
17:08 tadegenban https://gist.github.com/tadegenban/1aba3afccfd5ae523725
17:08 tadegenban I have minimize the code
17:09 tadegenban In my perl 5.18 machine I will not print 'b' until 4~5 times get requests
17:10 tadegenban it will not print 'b', sorry
17:12 crab this is simply because the process may be different between requests
17:13 crab so if your request is served by a process that has not previously responded to a request, it won't have the value set
17:14 crab in other words, your code is fundamentally broken in its assumption that inter-request state is preserved in this way
17:14 crab if you need to "remember" something between requests, store it in the session or in some not-per-process database.
17:16 tadegenban thanks , it make sense
17:16 tadegenban I know what's the problem now
17:17 tadegenban thank you
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18:15 hummeleBop Hi there, is there a way to disable ocsp verification with Mojo::IOLoop->server(
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21:15 torbjorn great conference in Oslo!, organizers+++
21:29 Mikey of all the places i wish i was..
21:29 Mikey i hope you guys are having a blast
21:50 jberger_ MOJOCONF ALL THE THINGS!!!
22:45 batman tempire: it's never the raptor ;)
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23:13 sri crab: you have no idea what you're missing!
23:13 sri \o\
23:13 sri /o/
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23:16 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/UMPmxA
23:16 good_news_everyon mojo/master d9896cb Sebastian Riedel: more links
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23:33 onur Hi guys. This is not directly related with mojo. I have a simple controller and a model but data returned from my model is keep groving after every request: http://ideone.com/R3CNK9 Any idea why?
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