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IRC log for #mojo, 2014-09-28

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00:09 * marty installs postgresql, starts the long journey.
00:10 marty It is nice to have access to really good admin tools for DB management again.   I always liked pgadmin
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00:14 marty This time, I'm going to try and avoid the multiple join deathtrap which leads to an EAV database, insanity and early death.
00:14 marty Gunna have to find a balance, I suck at that.  :)
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00:17 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/iGcOiA
00:17 good_news_everyon mojo/master 686d41d Sebastian Riedel: improved url_for performance
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01:52 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/kraih/mojo/commit/8a3f4ed37502d26564ebe742d4fa5a0b28d843c3
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02:01 mrmccrac Mojo::Server::Prefork natively handles incoming SSL requests?
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02:11 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/S1P7hQ
02:11 good_news_everyon mojo/master 8277f4a Sebastian Riedel: simplify condition
02:11 good_news_everyon mojo/master c94bc9e Sebastian Riedel: the path should always start with a slash
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02:11 r0b3rt Mojo::Redis is still using emit_safe().  I guess I need Mojo::Redis2.
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02:37 tempire Maybe it's time to finally immerse myself in postgres
02:38 tempire That name is still so ugly.
02:38 tempire It hurts.
02:39 sri tempire: how can you look into those eyes and say that?! http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/images/postgresql-elephant.jpg
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02:49 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/MialYw
02:49 good_news_everyon mojo/master 04aa201 Sebastian Riedel: match children a little faster
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02:49 sri but seriously... postgres has a rather interesting history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingres_(database)
02:50 sri postgres stands for post-ingres
02:54 mrmccrac hmm is it difficult to use an SSO solution in apache and trying to proxy requests to mojo?
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03:30 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih tagged v5.47 at cb61a9e: http://git.io/dt1BPQ
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03:31 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/gphT2w
03:31 good_news_everyon mojo/master 9efcd26 Sebastian Riedel: bump version
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10:52 marty for anyone interested, this might come in useful for a mongo to postgres migration.  https://stripe.com/blog/announcing-mosql
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12:28 batman does anyone know if it's possible to run "perlbrew install" in foreground?
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12:31 * batman tries with --verbose
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14:37 sri batman, marcus: maybe remove /list from the command list until it works again?
14:48 * jberger golfs a redis/signatures chat example
14:48 jberger https://gist.github.com/jberger/78d7c1649d7acbab6a94
14:49 * jberger wants to git rid of jquery without adding lines if possible, HALP!
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15:22 sri that's a cute example app!
15:31 * sri never knew why the default database in postgresql is called template1... it all makes so much sense now! http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/manage-ag-templatedbs.html
15:39 batman is there a way to know if i'm started the first time or hot reloading in hypnotoad?
15:39 batman sri: sorry, i really don't have time to look at the /names now.
15:39 batman you need to make an issue if you wan to remember it
15:40 batman s!/names!/list!
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15:46 sri if you store a model in a helper, and allow that helper to be renamed... i wonder how to communicate that to commands that may need to interact with the model
15:48 sri like "plugin Postgres => {name => 'foo', dsn => 'dbi:Pg:dbname=foo'};".... ./myapp.pl postgres migrate
15:49 sri there may even be multiple helpers for different databases
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15:51 sri and things get more complicated if you want to abstract out your model further :S
15:52 sri i guess nobody has written a command yet for their dbic migrations
15:53 sri i wonder if we need some more conventions... like the good old catalyst model loader :)
15:55 sri could be something really simple
15:55 sri like a central spot for storing model objects with names
15:55 sri $app->model(foo => MyPostgresModel->new);
15:56 sri my $foo = $c->model('foo');
15:56 sri model being a helper
15:56 sri ...on the controller
15:56 sri and a stash-ish method on the app
16:06 jberger yay! down to 38 lines!
16:07 jberger btw, sri, I have migrations in Galileo
16:07 sri i bet they are app specific
16:07 jberger its not factored out into a cpanable command, but it probably could be
16:08 sri the question is how do you connect a generic command to an app model
16:08 sri ?
16:09 jberger it might have to be either configurable or else convention
16:09 jberger app->model
16:10 jberger my $model = app->config->{modelHelperName}; app->$model
16:10 jberger (in reverse order)
16:12 sri and if you have more than one?
16:13 jberger modelHelperNames?
16:13 sri yes
16:15 jberger anyway, I think that might be the smallest I can get that example app without (really) sacrificing readability
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16:33 nicomen jberger: why prepend in the log, isn't append normal behaviour?
16:37 jberger nicomen: because the form is on top
16:37 jberger I guess I could flip it around
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17:06 AndroUser hello
17:06 AndroUser any admin
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21:02 jberger nicomen: just tried, its going to take to much code to keep it scrolled to the bottom
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22:35 jberger so the thing I'm getting reading about redis
22:35 jberger with mongodb, denormalization always felt forced
22:35 jberger with redis it seems to happen naturally
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22:59 cfedde what does normalization mean outside an rdbms?
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