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IRC log for #mojo, 2015-04-11

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00:27 Grinnz _dave_, it's supposed to be use Mojo::Base 'Mojolicious::Plugin'
01:13 _dave_ Yes but I really am subclassing Config ... also i tried just 'Mojolicious::Plugin' and that didn't work
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01:27 thowe Hello.
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01:55 Grinnz oh, yeah, using the config plugin should work too
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02:46 jberger _dave_: is the package name what you think it is
02:46 jberger ?
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03:33 _dave_ That was it. Turns out somehow in the file I saved, a bogus character got in the package name. Figured it was something simple. Sorry to bother you guys.
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04:43 sri slow day
04:43 * sri guesses everybody is watching netflix
04:44 * Grinnz is!
04:52 * sri ponders registering icann.sucks
04:54 Grinnz XD
04:54 preaction who even thought up the .sucks TLD? it's a blatant money-grab
04:54 Grinnz what TLD lately isn't?
04:54 sri was about to say
04:54 preaction the .dev one
04:55 preaction (the one that google wants sole control over :p)
04:55 sri icann went batshit crazy
04:55 preaction it should all be country TLDs
04:55 * preaction runs
04:56 preaction ooh, or we could bring back "alt."
04:56 sri purl: set preaction on fire
04:56 * purl sets preaction on fire
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05:00 notsri purl: set sri on fire
05:00 * purl sets <who> on fire
05:01 notsri purl: set sri on fire
05:01 * purl sets notsri on fire
05:01 sri \o/
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12:57 jberger I think we should get rid of all tlds except .com and everyone should have to battle for the good ones
12:57 jberger and btw yeah it has been damn quiet around these interwebs
12:58 marcusr battle royale
13:00 jberger with cheese
13:02 batman :)
13:07 * ribasushi likes random-word tlds
13:12 jberger dbic.ribasushi
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15:11 sri guess there won't be a graceful_timeout revamp proposal after all
15:24 * sri makes up rules for setting timeouts correctly https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mojolicious/4wE-SDagrLQ/iKDgxrEvSzMJ
15:29 Grinnz sri, i agree, 60 seconds is what i ended up with in most cases as a maximum
15:32 Grinnz our apache is configured to 5 minutes (lol), but it wasnt reasonable to let any blocking operation last that long
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19:05 * niczero would love to know what merits a timeout of 27hrs
19:10 Grinnz or what they expect the user to do in the meantime!
19:13 niczero but I am a little sympathetic; in case #3 no timeout has been breached, so jumping into graceful timeout could be seen as harsh
19:13 niczero albeit practical from the perspective of code
19:14 sri niczero: what else should happen if a worker reaches its limit of connections it is allowed to accept?
19:15 sri is it not a graceful shutdown of that one worker?
19:16 sri have you actually seen the example i posted? any open connection without a timeout would keep the worker running forever
19:19 niczero yeah, I can see the implementation is logical and safe
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19:19 niczero tbh, I am still getting my head round it
19:20 sri you called it "harsh"
19:20 sri it is perfectly logical behavior
19:20 niczero could be seen as harsh from an external perspective
19:21 sri how else could it work?
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19:22 niczero I am about 15 steps behind on that :o)
19:22 sri then don't call it "harsh", that implied a better alternative
19:23 sri actually, this bugs me so much, i'm leaving the discussion
19:23 sri if anyone wants me to rejoin, make a real proposal
19:24 niczero perhaps 'harsh' has been misunderstood
19:25 niczero once a worker has reached its accept limit it can't receive more work
19:26 niczero so maybe case #3 isn't terribly relevant
19:27 Zoffix The problem with all those new TLDs is that Average Joe won't know that, say, zoffix.software is a website.
19:27 Zoffix s/.$/ address/;
19:37 niczero sri's description of heartbeat timeout is very clear: bigger than your longest (blocking) task
19:38 niczero for graceful timeout, is it: heartbeat timeout + cleanup time?
19:39 niczero (re case #4)
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20:16 Zoffix mojolicious+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com     You are not a member of this group, leave request failed.
20:16 Zoffix -_-
20:16 Zoffix Stoopid google
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