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IRC log for #mojo, 2015-07-09

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00:32 sri so, tim did not deliver :(
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00:48 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih tagged v6.13 at 898e65b: http://git.io/vq6eI
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00:50 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/vq6e0
00:50 good_news_everyon mojo/master 13131ba Sebastian Riedel: bump version
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09:21 * nic randomises all his PID files
09:22 nic It's mandatory when running selinux
09:22 nic Every 5 mins two PID files are chosen randomly and their contents swapped
09:23 nic I think RedHHat does that too, but I can't see any documentation about it.  Oh, Redhat.
09:26 ribasushi ...what?
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09:33 pink_mist pretty sure he's jokine
09:33 pink_mist *joking
09:33 pink_mist I hope he's joking...
09:34 pink_mist but from what I know of redhat, maybe not
09:35 ribasushi I think it's fucking scary that we can't tell :(
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09:39 marcusr https://people.redhat.com/duffy/selinux/selinux-coloring-book_A4-Stapled.pdf
09:40 nic sorry, ribasushi, was joking
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12:22 jberger Not back yet and only slowly reading backlog, but re 65 people shot in Chicago
12:23 jberger They knew I was going to be in Michigan and not laying down the law, so all help breaks loose :p
12:23 jberger Hell, dammit
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12:43 batman jberger: haha.
12:43 batman that's a dark joke, but it's also very funny :)
12:55 Quai /win 21
12:55 Quai Lets try that again without a space before the command..
12:56 batman Quai :)
12:56 nicomen Quai! ;)
12:57 marcusr all help breaks loose when jberger is out of town
12:57 marcusr (normally he keeps them trapped in the basement)
12:57 Quai at least it wasn't my password! (I prommis!)
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13:25 * jberger is teh law
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13:39 jberger https://instagram.com/p/43DO-UsTCT/
13:40 jberger https://instagram.com/p/42dAlPsTF-/
13:41 jberger Meh, maybe I'll just stay here
13:41 jberger Gonna need better internet
13:43 batman looks very nice :)
13:44 jberger Kinda cold this week actually
13:44 jberger But still nice
13:46 batman it's kind of cold here as well :P
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14:18 Craftsmanship in package Mojolicious::Command::generate::app;    die <<EOF unless $class =~ /^[A-Z](?:\w|::)+$/; won't ever happen because   $class ||= 'MyApp';
14:19 Craftsmanship ... meaning that an app called my_app is generated, instead of the help being displayed when generate app is called without an app name.
14:24 jabberwok Craftsmanship: confirmed with 6.13
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14:34 Craftsmanship neat.
14:35 Craftsmanship jabberwok: say, is there an rtfm on what the dirs that are created are for?
14:35 Craftsmanship I guess public is non-template things like css / js
14:36 jabberwok yes, and anything under public is served by the default route handler
14:36 Craftsmanship the docs i'm wading in seem to all be ::Light
14:36 jabberwok Guides::Growing is the single best starting point
14:37 Craftsmanship I just figured i'd start ... ::Heavy, i'll give that one another look though
14:37 jabberwok although some of it can only be understood after learning quite a bit more... which I'm trying to write a series of postings on.
14:37 Craftsmanship It's quite a bit to stumble into the middle of
14:37 genio http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Growing#Simplified-application-script
14:38 genio but yea, that entire Growing guide goes through what's what as it teaches you how to create an app in Mojolicious
14:40 jabberwok Work in progress. I want to explain what is really going on with the simple skeleton 'app', what all the code bits in it mean, and what is going on once the main event loop takes control.   http://blog.wlindley.com/2015/07/what-happens-after-you-start-your-mojolicious-app/
14:42 Craftsmanship your blog looks a lot like purecss ...
14:43 jabberwok it is, until i can replace it, a stock wordpress site.  php begone!
14:44 Craftsmanship I plan to collect a bunch of security holes and mojo worst practices, along with some shitty coding standards into something not-dissimilar to a blog as part of my "figuring out Mojolicious" project
14:47 Craftsmanship jabberwok: I believe "what's an event loop" might be a pre-requsite for "what's going on when I start my event loop"
14:49 jabberwok yes.  what's funny about all this, is in 1984-1989 I was a developer for a script language called "TNT" that ran on top of Magic/L (a threaded language quite like Forth but with dictionaries and many features that made it quite Perl-like in 1983) which was entirely event-driven for multimedia applications.  all this modern web stuff is in many ways a rehash of what i did thirty years ago.
14:52 Craftsmanship Well, the web only just passed screen-at-a-time green-screen terminals, so ...
14:52 jabberwok 3270 forever!
14:52 Craftsmanship now we can run programs on the users machine!
14:52 Craftsmanship (only they're in javascript)
14:53 jabberwok a mess of a language =sigh=
14:53 Craftsmanship thanks for the sneak peak on that article
14:54 jabberwok de nada, amigo.
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15:14 genio jabberwok is old, in other words. :)
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21:14 tempire http://????????.ws/????????????????????????
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21:17 tianon pizza-poo.ws/basketball-orange-eggplant-thumbsup-cow-pineapple for other curious font-impaired folks :)
21:18 tianon wow, and http://????????.ws is basically bit.ly but with emoji
21:18 tianon win
21:19 Grinnz_ yeah, my irc client doesnt even render that... so
21:19 tianon I pulled up the irclog page on my phone, which rendered them :)
21:20 Grinnz_ heh
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23:54 sri interesting, the microsoft job queue thingy does actually have a state to freeze jobs
23:54 sri jobs start out as On Hold, and only get picked up by workers once they are transitioned to Ready
23:55 sri from Ready they go to In Progress, and from there to Error or Finished
23:59 nicomen sounds like what some person requested the other day
23:59 sri it is

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