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IRC log for #mojo, 2015-09-14

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00:03 nic is anyone writing a mojo letsencrypt client?
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04:23 bpmedley What do y'all use for server and app monitoring?
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04:32 jberger for the few people who knew about it, my wife finished the ironman!
04:32 jberger I'm probably not going to be on here much tonight still, but she finshed and is feeling good
04:34 bpmedley That's cool.  When I had the knees for it I loved body pump.
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05:23 batman bpmedley: What kind of monitoring?
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09:29 bpmedley batman: Something between sar and new relic, if that makes sense.
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10:34 * sri yawns
10:48 batman sri: is https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojolicious::Plugin::MethodOverride built in now..?
10:49 batman thought i remember that there's somewhere i the code where method is rewritten...
10:49 batman maybe i dreamt :)
10:49 sri it is
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10:50 sri http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Routing#HTTP-methods
10:51 batman thanks!
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11:08 sri also used by tag helpers http://mojolicio.us/perldoc/Mojolicious/Guides/Rendering#Forms
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11:56 batman have we documented anywhere which environment variables might be useful to tweak when using EV?
11:57 batman i think tempire had it on a slide when he did the training in oslo...
11:59 sri MOJO::IOLoop
12:00 sri there is only one env var though
12:03 batman LIBEV_FLAGS?
12:03 mishanti1 Pretty sure tempire talked about more stuff to tweak.
12:04 marcus more stuff to break
12:04 mishanti1 And then there is all the underlying OS-specific stuff you have to tweak, but that doesn't make sense to put in the mojo docs. Or does it?
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12:17 batman it would be cool if it was mentioned in the deployment guide...?
12:27 odc i love the libev manpage
12:27 odc >Epoll is truly the train wreck analog among event poll mechanisms, a frankenpoll
12:29 genio That guy's not happy unless he's ripping something apart in POD somewhere (justly or otherwise)
12:31 odc heh, it's good for the nerves
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13:09 sri how odd, there will be a new twin peaks show :o
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13:27 jberger batman: https://github.com/kraih/mojo/wiki/Tuning-servers-for-high-concurrency-workloads
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15:27 bpmedley https://github.com/brianmed/CallsAbound <-- If anyone is interested in a wifi calling app where they run the server, please msg me.  The server is tightly coupled to an iOS app I have and uses twilio.  Setup is a pita right now and the app is basically in beta/alpha.
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21:27 sri has someone tried this with mojolicious yet? http://blogs.perl.org/users/rurban/2015/09/cperl-5221-released.html
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21:29 * sri wonders if it is possible to get that into perlbrew
21:29 PopeF What's the word for an XML element and its children? Is there a good word for that?
21:29 PopeF sri, you could always fire it up in a VM.
21:29 preaction a node?
21:30 PopeF preaction, yeah, I guess. That's what I was using. Just wondered if there was a better word.
21:30 preaction node and descendants?
21:30 preaction nodescendants?
21:30 sri node is less specific than element
21:31 preaction document fragment?
21:31 sri element and children is a fine description
21:31 sri or even element and descendants
21:31 PopeF preaction, nodescendents. XML goes punk. ;)
21:32 PopeF element and children I like. I don't know about element and descendants. I don't know why. :)
21:32 sri fragment was my first thought as well, but it's also less specific
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21:33 sri fragment could have multiple root elements
21:33 sri or even nodes ;p
21:34 PopeF Stupid XML consortium.  They specified the wossname out of it, but they didn't make up a nice word that differentiates "element" and "element with children".
21:35 PopeF ;)
21:40 preaction empty elements
21:43 Grinnz_ whereas in PPI, a Node is more specific than an Element, specifically an Element that can contain other Elements (straight from the abstract)
21:43 Grinnz_ in case you needed more confusion
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21:55 spicyjack pregnant elements
21:55 spicyjack aka preggers
21:55 bpmedley sri: Any specific benchmark you want ran?  Also, would you like the OS X build command I used?
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22:47 ZoffixMobile PopeF,  but decendant and child differ! <p><a><b>foo</b></a></p>: <b> is a child of <a>, but a descendant of <p>… <p>'s children include only <a>, while descendants include <a> and <b>
22:48 ZoffixMobile This will also be the last time I try to type markup on a smart phone! Good grief! and they say desktops are dying :)
22:48 PopeF ZoffixMobile, you aren't helping. ;)
22:53 jberger ZoffixMobile: typing perl one-liners from mobile is tough too, but I kinda-sorta get my point across most times I try
22:53 ZoffixMobile :)
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