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IRC log for #mojo, 2016-05-05

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00:35 jberger there might be a way to make that work
00:45 sri of course there are ways, but they are all pretty annoying
00:47 sri sidekiq has a key in redis that gets checked regularly
00:47 sri celery can broadcast messages to all workers
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01:15 jberger hmm, broadcast messages to all workers would be possible, not sure if it is desirable of course
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08:54 CHYC A few weeks ago, jberger very kindly helped me understand non-blocking in an under route. I must confess that I don't think I could have done it without his help. Would the following be of use in the Tutorials? : https://github.com/chy-causer/mojo/commit/c670a32f38398b6b124c7ea2a42297cc7f2a70d3
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09:49 punter Sorry for the irrelevent question: I have screenshots of a website I want to make, and I need someone to code the HTML & CSS. Do you know where I could look for web designers to do this job?
09:49 punter (don't know where else to ask)
09:52 batman maybe fiverr.com ?
09:53 batman or upwork.com
09:57 punter thanks
09:59 batman i think maybe upwork.com is what you want, while fiverr.com is for "throwing prototypes together"
10:00 batman don't get me wrong: fiverr is great, but i think it's more for a one time thing, instead of an on-going task
10:05 punter Is it possible to find freelancers using a freelancer account? (on upwork.com)
10:05 batman that's what my friend did. (i've never used it personally)
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11:43 cpan_mojo Mojolicious-Plugin-RoutesAuthDBI-0.420 by MCHE https://metacpan.org/release/MCHE/Mojolicious-Plugin-RoutesAuthDBI-0.420
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12:22 sri allright, would be great to have a few more eyeballs to make sure the minion schema changes are the best we can do https://github.com/kraih/minion/compare/v5.05...master#diff-6c2d02af894f2ce916d89f7b04f4b54aR742
12:22 sri since the schema is not supposed to change a lot
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12:59 ashimema Whilst your talking minions.. anyone got any tips for setting up a watchdog to ensure that there's at least one minion worker running?
12:59 ashimema lots of ways to skin that particular cat.. so wondered what/if anyone else is doing similar ;)
13:02 punter I wonder if Ubic can help with this.
13:03 ashimema it likely can ;)
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13:33 bpmedley Ashimema: i've used upstart for that
13:47 ashimema any examples?
13:48 ashimema I currently have an init script that starts lots of minion workers
13:48 ashimema not dabbled with upstart much.. no idea how one approaches watchdogs using it ;)
13:54 bpmedley ashimema: give me a bit of time, i'm at work
13:54 ashimema no worries.. it's certainly not urgent..
13:54 ashimema more of a.. whilst it came to mind I though I'd ask ;)
14:23 sri maybe this line should include the job id https://github.com/kraih/minion/compare/v5.05...master#diff-6c2d02af894f2ce916d89f7b04f4b54aR746
14:23 sri to make it more future proof
14:23 sri then the notification could be reused for a web ui maybe
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14:26 bpmedley https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eOfkIs4M/minion.001.conf
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14:27 bpmedley That goes in /etc/init for CentOS 6
14:27 mullagain I am having issues with jquery using the ?_=1462458295080 to disable caching
14:28 bpmedley sri: i can look at the minion stuff after work
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14:37 ashimema cool, cheers bpmedley
14:37 jberger sri: I see no reason not to do that
14:37 ashimema respawn.. that's the magic I had no idea about
14:37 ashimema that is uber simple looking :)
14:37 sri the list of minion feature ideas is getting bigger and bigger https://github.com/kraih/minion/issues/34
14:38 jberger ashimema: you can also do an explicit health check by inserting a dummy job and then using the api to check that it goes to completion
14:39 ashimema I did wonder about that approach too jberger :)
14:39 jberger nice thing about that is it can also tell you if your queues are overloaded (at least to a first approximation)
14:40 ashimema lots of ways to skin this particular cat.. it's interesting to get other opinions before I embark on  it ;)
14:41 ashimema indeed.. that's in interesting metric too which I was wondering about :)
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14:43 bpmedley sri: my initial thought is that a state table of sorts should be considered instead of the new
14:43 bpmedley new *signals
14:44 jberger bpmedley: meaning that the workers should check the database for their level of workers before then dequeuing more jobs?
14:45 jberger that seems like it would be a large performance penalty
14:45 jberger I'm more interested in having a notification that could do a similar thing as those signals remotely
14:46 bpmedley Yes, or check the table every few seconds
14:46 jberger but it would need lots of discussion that I don't have the time to do atm
14:46 bpmedley What type of notification?
14:47 jberger via whatever mechanism a backend is notified for the presence of new jobs
14:47 jberger which most backends have (SQLite kinda excluded)
14:48 jberger anyway, I have application specific logic that's a harder problem for me at the moment
14:52 sri yea, adding another table is a great way to kill performance
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14:54 sri you'd have to make staus checks part of the heartbeat mechanism
14:54 sri *+t
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15:12 sri getting it right is really hard though
15:13 sri so many things to go wrong
15:17 bpmedley I'm just wondering if the number of future features will be nicely expressed via signals.  Does that make sense?
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15:55 sri afraid not
16:03 bpmedley I'll have to be more specific after work, if that's ok..
16:04 sri take your time, i don't think you're familiar enough with minion internals yet
16:05 bpmedley Only way i'll learn is by failing.. :)
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