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IRC log for #mojo, 2016-07-22

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00:12 jberger funny, I've heard that too
00:50 cpan_mojo Mojolicious-Plugin-XML-Loy-0.14 by AKRON https://metacpan.org/release/AKRON/Mojolicious-Plugin-XML-Loy-0.14
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01:20 jberger sri: I'm looking through the minion code and I don't see any "thundering herd" protection for dequeuing a job
01:21 jberger am I missing it or was it removed or was it never there?
01:27 sri jberger: never there
01:33 jberger k
01:33 jberger thanks
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02:24 cpan_mojo Mojolicious-Plugin-Directory-0.12 by HAYAJO https://metacpan.org/release/HAYAJO/Mojolicious-Plugin-Directory-0.12
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05:29 jberger I kinda want to make a quick google photos clone
05:30 jberger I wonder if any of the self-hosted personal cloud software has made any progress lately
05:43 punter jberger, Would your solution be self-hosted?
05:43 jberger that'd be the whole point
05:44 jberger google lets you upload 15GB free or unlimited if you let them downscale
05:44 jberger I have tons of disk space on my personal server
05:44 jberger (tons relative to pictures at least)
05:46 punter but if it gets hacked, or catches on fire or something
05:46 punter you lose everything, no?
05:46 punter ok, you probably keep everyting on your local HD too
05:48 jberger yeah, I'll probably have them locally too
05:49 jberger but I'm not too worried about hardware failure or fire or whatever
05:49 jberger hacking I guess is possinle
05:49 jberger possible even
05:49 cpan_mojo Mojolicious-Plugin-ReplyTable-0.07 by JBERGER https://metacpan.org/release/JBERGER/Mojolicious-Plugin-ReplyTable-0.07
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08:42 jberger Not that i really have time for this but it is really kinda fun
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09:39 Topic for #mojo is now 🍩 nom nom | http://mojolicious.org | http://irclog.mojolicious.org | http://code-of-conduct.mojolicious.org
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16:37 mpapec new SO documentation section
16:37 mpapec http://stackoverflow.com/documentation/perl/topic-requests/3155
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16:51 jnbek so, with 7.0, is there any serious gotchas to look out for before I upgrade the PKGBUILD?
16:52 jnbek major deprecations, refactors, etc?
16:52 sri https://github.com/kraih/mojo/wiki/Upgrading
16:52 jnbek sri, thanks
16:56 jnbek put that on the PKGBUILD page so people can read and adjust accordingly once I upgrade it
16:56 jnbek I put that*
16:57 sri i fricking hate recruiters
16:57 jnbek O_O
16:58 sri "me: i'm looking for a mojolicious job, recruiter: i've got just what you need!, me: that's a plack/psgi job, recruiter: isn't that the same thing? just convince them to switch to mojolicious!"
16:58 mpapec :D
16:58 jnbek lol
17:04 mpapec btw, http://perlhacks.com/2016/07/modern-web-development-perl-dancer2/
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17:04 mpapec is there some concept from dancer worth stealing?
17:06 sri doubt it
17:07 mpapec Dave is doing training, so it makes me wonder
17:08 sri he hates mojolicious for some reason
17:08 sri think he didn't like the toolkit approach or so
17:08 mpapec ah, didn't know that
17:09 sri doubt he really loves dancer, it might just be what fits his mindset best
17:13 mpapec btw, I saw on YT some guy talking about perl modules written in Rust
17:13 preaction yeah. using FFI::Platypus
17:15 mpapec it could make sense if it's easier than XS
17:15 mpapec perhaps rewriting critical Mojo code in it? :)
17:15 sri FFI tends to be a hell of a lot easier
17:16 mpapec great
17:16 sri in fact i've been saying for years that an FFI implementation should ship with perl itself
17:18 mpapec it's a shame, I've only heard about it from last YAPC
17:19 sri FFI::Platypus looks exactly like what i would expect
17:19 preaction FFI::Raw's been around for a while, but it's kind of annoying. FFI::Platypus is rather new
17:19 preaction and NativeCall wraps FFI::Platypus, and that's even newer
17:19 sri heh
17:20 sri i like FFI::Platypus more actually
17:20 sri NativeCall looks like it tries way too hard
17:21 sri clean oo api is better than magical attributes
17:22 preaction i think NC is trying to be p6's version in p5
17:22 preaction but yes, from what i've seen, i also enjoy platypus more. worked on ZMQ::FFI with calid, and platypus is just that little bit extra that FFI::Raw needs
17:24 sri shit, terror attack in munich... and people wonder why i don't want to move there
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17:25 mpapec too much Auslanders?
17:26 jnbek ya I got a cpl friends who live there, trying to get some details but they're not responding
17:28 mpapec it would be a surprise if it's not muslim related
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17:30 preaction that doesn't sound necessary
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17:45 ningu what would be the best way to trap SIGHUP for a hypnotoad-deployed server?
17:46 ningu what I actually want to do is clear a redis cache on SIGHUP so it only needs to happen once, not for every process
17:46 ningu but the app knows where the db is and how to clear the cache
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17:54 ningu maybe I can use a minion job
17:55 ningu hmm, yeah, I think that should work
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18:44 pkuptsov Today I have run project based on minion! It's great thing! Thanks @sri !
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19:24 ningu how do I check whether a request has already been rendered?
19:29 ningu I guess for this purpose I could just check res->body_size
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19:58 bd jnbek: lot of people seem to be straned somewhere as there is no public transport
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20:24 sri jberger: so i guess bernie sanders never had a chance... the leaked dnc emails show that even his party was plotting against him
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20:35 lluad Well, it wasn't his party. That's kinda the issue.
20:38 Grinnz_ sri: not surprising
20:39 Grinnz_ its just funny the republican party did their best to plot against trump too, but couldn't get the votes
20:44 jabberwok Mojo::Pg related: has anyone tried to use SQL::Abstract or SQL::Abstract::More with an "INSERT... ON CONFLICT..." clause? I can't quite figure how to do it
20:44 jabberwok and duckduck + google are letting me down
20:48 jabberwok i already had to write a couple odd lines of code to interpolate subselects.  i get this feeling i have pushed beyond the edge of what folks use SQL::Abstract(::More) for.
20:51 tchaves Hello guys
20:51 tchaves Could anyone help me solve this problem?
20:52 tchaves This appearing this message in the log of my application.
20:52 tchaves [debug] Cookie "mojolicious" has a bad signature
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21:33 Grinnz_ jabberwok: ON CONFLICT is somewhat postgres specific, so I guess it doesn't really support that
21:33 Grinnz_ sqlite has ON CONFLICT too but it works different and isn't as useful...
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21:40 jabberwok *nod*   thx Grinnz_ ... I'm wiring all that stuff into canned queries for the moment
21:40 jabberwok perhaps i should pull all my Pg bits into a presentation.
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23:10 jberger jabberwok: yes you should
23:11 jberger sri: i haven't had a chance to read anything but I'm guessing lluad is mostly right
23:11 preaction jberger: you're not getting out of doing a Pg presentation by offering jabberwok as a sacrifice!
23:11 jberger Hahaha
23:12 jberger I offer this jabberwok as tribute
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23:12 preaction not sure that's how it works: http://imgur.com/gallery/x6a8j
23:13 jberger Tonight they are showing Jurassic World at one of the filming locations, a botanical gardens on the SE side of kauai
23:13 jberger Then tomorrow night starts the tropical storm :s
23:33 mishanti1 sri , jberger etc: My designer has some unallocated time coming up. I'm considering letting someone put it to use. PM me if you see a need for a design refresh on the mojolicious website.
23:45 sri mishanti1: we could use a pretty minion ui
23:45 sri i do not know how usable jberger's is
23:47 sri really too bad there is none yet with a real future
23:55 sri on the plus side the code of Minion::Monitor is pretty clean and reasonable https://github.com/jberger/Minion-Monitor
23:56 mishanti1 sri: That might fit well with our plan for moving forward.
23:57 sri think it's mostly missing the dashboard with stats and graphs
23:57 sri and a design
23:57 mishanti1 Looking to see if we should switch from having daemon+forked workers to using minion.
23:59 mishanti1 sri: Nicolai (the designer) is good at making dashboards. Generally making things pretty.
23:59 mishanti1 Im off to bed. Will be in touch over the weekend.
23:59 sri i would love to see a pretty version of Minion::Monitor merged into Minion

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