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IRC log for #mojo, 2016-12-13

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08:36 sri anyone tried hyper yet? any good? https://hyper.is
08:37 omega I've just installed it, it renders my prefered console font a bit buggy, but otherwise it seems ok so far, only tested a bit of vim etc
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10:42 sri memory usage of hyper is not as bad as i though
10:42 sri t
10:42 sri still, almost double the memory of the macos terminal
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13:36 sri well, actually it looks like every terminal tab also has a 15+ mb helper process :o
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15:09 foursixnine Welcome to javascript+node powered applications :)
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16:00 * vicash is waiting for an OS to be written in javascript
16:02 coolo vicash: https://www.kingsquare.nl/jsc64
16:02 coolo (it kills my poor chromium though)
16:04 vicash coolo: they didn't take into account garbage collection
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17:01 kes this seems handy: http://stackoverflow.com/a/41126624/4632019
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17:33 sri yea, Hyper just doesn't add enough value yet to justify the memory cost
17:34 sri two memory hogs are more than enough for now (Chrome and Atom)
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17:44 sri hmm, this really is surprising http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/12/microsofts-surface-hub-sales-surprisingly-strong-its-a-huge-hardware-hit/
17:46 lluad Not for anyone who's ever had to use a conference room projector... :)
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18:02 sri btw. re my broken razer keyboard, i've contacted them, and there is no way to get replacement switches :(
18:02 pink_mist :(
18:08 coolo sri: wow. how bad did you break it?
18:09 sri broke the left ctrl keycap and switch in half
18:13 sri it only fell like a meter onto a soft carpet, but it's one of those keyboards without a top cover, so the key just got crushed http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/I/568926/gallery/razer-blackwidow-x-chroma-2_w_600.jpg
18:13 Grinnz oh huh
18:13 preaction wow. it is apparently dangerous to be sri's keyboard ;)
18:13 Grinnz never seen a keyboard without a recessed area for the caps
18:14 preaction that too. it looks rather fragile
18:14 preaction ... and they don't sell replacement switches...
18:14 sri yea
18:14 sri and i even bought the version that is meant to be transported a lot to tournaments
18:15 sri it's very beautiful, and very fragile
18:15 pink_mist how long did it last? :P
18:16 sri 4 whole weeks
18:16 preaction ouch...
18:16 pink_mist >_<
18:17 sri and i waited 3 weeks to get it... because you can only get the us version imported, they don't actually sell it in germany
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18:25 jberger does it not have any warranty? 4 weeks is pretty terrible
18:26 jberger would the threat of griping to your 2200 mostly-tech followers help?
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18:27 coolo jberger: warrenty against falling?
18:28 jberger this isn't a faberage egg
18:29 Grinnz normal warranties will usually not cover things like that :/
18:29 Grinnz it has to be an "accidental damage warranty"
18:30 jberger "and i even bought the version that is meant to be transported a lot to tournaments" seems to be part of the implied warranty for the product
18:30 jberger anyway, they don't care about the warranty, they care about bad press
18:30 Grinnz you could raise a stink about it, but i'm just talking the legal basis
18:30 coolo jberger: I don't think he meant keyboard throwing tournaments :)
18:30 Grinnz lol
18:30 jberger all these companies hire social media consultants to watch twitter/facebook/amazon reviews
18:32 coolo well, no matter how bad sri treated the keyboard, I won't order a 100EUR keybard that I can't get repaired - lesson learned for me :)
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19:21 suede I am having a problem with migrations
19:21 suede in Mojo::Pg*
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19:22 suede I'm trying to set my search_path on connection so I can use a schema, but I get an error saying 'no schema has been selected to create in' when it initially tries to create the mojo_migrations table
19:23 sri the Mojo::Pg tests actually use a test specific schema, just look there
19:28 suede sri: cheers
19:31 * sri sobs and tweets
19:33 pink_mist Tell me, Mr. Sri, what good is a tweet ... if you're unable to type?
19:33 pink_mist * Agent Smith breaks Sri's keyboard *
19:43 jberger pink_mist++
19:47 sri 😭
20:01 mishanti1 I'm not doing carpentry if I drop out of tech. I've decided that mongolian throatsinging is pretty darn awesome.
20:03 mishanti1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MLrWgXAOyo <-- for reference
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20:07 jberger that's not nearly the strangest video ever posted to this channel
20:08 mishanti1 Not an attempt either. :) I was just fascinated.
20:08 mishanti1 It is pretty cool how they are able to sing in multiple pitches simultaneously.
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20:33 sri this is not even the first time i've seen that video... lol
20:35 suede wishing there was a mojolicious plugin for VS Code :(
20:35 suede just for templates
20:36 suede i could probably port the one from the open source jetbrains plugin maybe
20:38 genio There's a plugin for Atom that sri wrote.  Try that same plugin in VS Code as VS Code _is_ an Atom
20:40 genio https://atom.io/packages/language-mojolicious
20:43 suede genio: you are the *best*
20:43 suede sri you too
20:43 pink_mist I think you're misapplying the term 'best' :P
20:44 perlpilot or perhaps just under-qualifying it.
20:45 suede perlpilot: maybe i should specify that genio is the best at helping me at 10:40 PM GMT+2 time
20:45 genio ahh, one caveat: "Any Atom plugin or extension for Visual Studio Code that relies on the Atom editor to be present will not work."  Since I haven't personally tried this, it may not work.  It seems VS Code uses the Electron framework that the Atom editor is built on, but they replaced the Atom editor with their own.
20:46 genio sri would better know if his plugin specifically relies on the Atom editor as opposed to ...
20:49 pink_mist or suede could just try it and find out :P
20:49 suede doing just that once i figure out exactly *how*
20:55 genio so, I think the answer is likely "no". Maybe you can talk sri into making a VS Code plugin based off of his Atom plugin.
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20:59 sri doesn't vs code use tmbundles?
21:00 sri i once maintained a mojo.tmbundle
21:01 genio sri: I'm not sure. I didn't look too much further into it other than to see they expect a .visx extension (or something like that) for manual extension installation
21:01 sri yea, it seems to be using tmLanguage files
21:02 sri https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/customization/colorizer
21:02 sri should be trivial to make a new vs code extension if someone can find my old tmBundle
21:03 sri unfortunately i think i deleted it a few years ago from github
21:03 genio heh. palm webOS is making that hard
21:04 sri maybe someone still has a fork or installed version? :)
21:05 genio not that I see.  your repo was called mojo-tmbundle  and searching github for that only finds the Pal WebOS Mojo SDK stuff
21:05 sri this might help though https://github.com/SublimeText/Mojolicious
21:06 genio ah
21:07 sri why would i want to use vs code over atom?
21:07 genio I personally wouldn't.  Some claim it's faster on larger files than is Atom
21:08 genio and some like the look/feel a bit better than Atom.
21:11 genio I can't add anything to those assertions as I haven't really given it much of a go
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21:17 genio sri: This might be a good selling point https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=msjsdiag.debugger-for-chrome
21:21 sri i guess my workflow depends a lot on atom extensions now
21:23 marty I had sri's mojo textmate bundle installed.  Created a repo for it.  Can be found here. https://github.com/MadMartigan/mojo-tmbundle
21:24 sri marty++
21:43 sri courage!!! http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13939278/apple-macos-sierra-new-macbook-pros-battery-life
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21:49 Grinnz i'm going to need more facepalms
21:52 Grinnz even to start with, why is estimating battery life suddenly a hard thing to do? it's done rather seamlessly on millions of devices, a lot from apple themselves
21:54 preaction because if you try to do linear extrapolation based on previous use, you're going to get it wrong that one time and people are going to complain
21:56 Grinnz right, but what makes it suddenly different on these particular laptops
21:57 Grinnz the biggest development in lithium ion batteries in the past 5 years was that they started exploding
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22:00 jberger I'm on the verge of a long string of curses
22:01 preaction nccurses?
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22:14 marty I may be old fashioned but personally, I prefer a battery percentage indicator over time remaining.
22:20 vicash preaction, Grinnz: generally there is always a  power management chip that has a datasheet with proper details on how it measures power and how to extrapolate. that is what the single board computers like Beaglebone Black have and the OS driver has to leverage that information to show power usage. if the power consumption estimation is wrong, it is a driver problem most likely
22:21 Grinnz that would make sense, yeah... but why fix the driver when you can remove the timer entirely :P
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22:52 karjala hi, do you know where i can order mojolicious merchandise from? I'm particularly interested in coffe cups.
22:52 jberger it is just through the t-shirt shop
22:52 jberger go to mojolicio.us
22:53 jberger click on the t-shirt
22:53 jberger I don't know if the coffee mugs are available anymore
22:53 jberger oh, wait, yes they are
22:54 jberger interesting, the beer mug is different between the us and eu stores
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22:56 karjala thanks
22:56 karjala I wish there was a white rainbow mojo coffe mug
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23:11 karjala got one anyway. but will get another if white rainbow dinosaur mojo coffee mugs come out.
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