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IRC log for #mojo, 2017-07-26

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00:04 jabberwok documentation is added. should we keep 'bundled' or perhaps 'special' as the attribute name?
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08:53 kes Hi. Is there a way to force mojolicious render template in context of current controller instead of default if there is no action for current request?
08:55 kes For example: GET /users/show will trigger $c->render( 'users/show' ) where ref $c is 'Mojolicious::Controller', but I need App::Controller::User
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09:07 sri Grinnz: i was so focused on sshfs that i didn't even realize all boxes are in the same dmz, so i could just use nfs... which is fast enough :)
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09:21 sri vscode on nfs is as expected quite comfortable
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10:02 CandyAngel Would a re-exec'uting Minion worker command work on Windows, so Minion could be used even without proper fork?
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10:56 sri CandyAngel: the primitives for such a worker should exist, it would be kinda unreliable though
11:01 jabberwok testing on Windows: I haven't owned a Microsoft product in nearly two decades now, and don't even know anyone with a Windows box anymore. not sure what to do
11:01 sri jabberwok: see appveyor
11:02 sri every time you push to the pull request branch it runs the tests on windows for you https://github.com/kraih/mojo/pull/1113
11:02 sri see bottom
11:02 sri when you click on details you can see exactly what's wrong https://ci.appveyor.com/project/kraih/mojo/build/346
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11:35 CandyAngel sri: I'll have to test it out.. not going to be allowed a Linux box or WSL but Minion would be really nice to have
11:35 CandyAngel (at work, I mean)
12:08 jabberwok Hm. not having a Windows box to poke at, it's not clear how to_rel there might differ from *nix, so I'm not sure what what the problem exactly is or what to do next
12:10 jabberwok i can see the tests fail but is that from having '\' in the paths instead of '/', and if so what's the standard way to get a URL-style path out of Mojo::File, or is that even the problem, gaaaah why did MS foul up path syntax in MSDOS 2.0 1981??? argh
12:17 sri jabberwok: you're generating platform specific paths, when you need hardcoded forward slash
12:17 sri at least for the keys, since http paths are always forward slash
12:18 jabberwok =nod=  but the answer i'm sure is not s{\}{/}g;
12:18 sri keys are http paths, values are platform specific paths
12:18 sri NO!
12:18 jabberwok =grin=  Perl 4 to the rescue!  not
12:18 sri Mojo::File has splitpath functionality
12:19 sri join '/', @$rel_path
12:20 jabberwok ah ok.  thank you.
12:21 jabberwok immersed in linux since 2001, it's easy to think we left the bad days of multi-platform behind with TRS-80 Apple][ and unknown numbers of different serial terminals on CP/M
12:22 jabberwok while developing it all on Heathkit HDOS
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14:37 jabberwok whew, all checks passed.  Learning to love CI, i suppose
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14:41 sri jabberwok: the docs are still not quite like the other attribute docs
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17:27 sri i guess after all it's jony ive who's ruining apple https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-jony-ive-masterminded-apples-new-headquarters-1501063201
17:27 sri everything he does now is form over function
17:28 genio ugh. subscribe to read.
17:28 sri ugh
17:28 sri i went there from a twitter link and it worked
17:28 sri i gues referrer detection
17:29 sri anyway... ive designed the whole new campus with open floor plans, and engineers are understandably freaking out now
17:30 Grinnz had to read that a couple times to realize you weren't saying *you* designed the new campus :P
17:30 genio yea, our new building is an open floor plan building. I hate it
17:30 sri Grinnz: lol
17:30 marcus Was so glad when we finally got walls installed at RG
17:32 sri it's just insane not to give engineers the choice
17:39 arcanez or let them work from home
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17:42 sri <3 my quiet home office
17:43 arcanez my kids went back to school Monday, so it's quieter.. still building a pool in the backyard though
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17:44 genio I'm in a really loud open office now with whitenoise speakers all over too
17:44 genio I went from an office that I could have dark to an open environment that's so bright my eyes get really tired
17:45 genio in a glorified cube farm now that just plain sucks. 4 foot tall "walls" do not suffice
17:46 arcanez office at home has a standing desk, but no door. cubes in the office at work *shrug*
17:46 marcus genio: why would you do that?
17:46 Grinnz we're in a cube farm, but they arent cube shaped, its more of a hex farm
17:46 genio that ^^
17:47 sri only downside of my home office is the lack of air conditioning
17:47 Grinnz pretty quiet here though luckily
17:47 genio marcus: brand new building. someone decided for us and wanted the building to be "green" with energy savings, so windows everywhere with natural light and overhead LEDs everywhere
17:47 * perlpilot is in a cube farm but it's mostly quiet and we always have the lights out
17:47 genio we don't have light control
17:47 sri the two days a year it gets warm in germany work can get really uncomfortable
17:48 genio sri: You can get one of those portable AC units though, right?
17:48 genio or would that take up too much space the rest of the year?
17:48 Grinnz it was 90s last week, and 60s this week... classic new england
17:48 Grinnz (thats 30s and 15s in celsius, i guess :P)
17:49 sri genio: naah, problem is finding a place to put the exhaust where it blows out the warm air
17:49 marcus no terrace, sri?
17:49 Grinnz yea you still need a window to put the exhaust in
17:49 Grinnz but its less intrusive than a whole window unit at least
17:50 Grinnz i'm thinking of getting one just to be more convenient than putting up one of the massive window units in one room
17:50 genio it's 89f with a realfeel of 104f and it's only partly sunny right now. ~60% humidity... classic Florida :)
17:50 arcanez I have a portable ac in my office right now set on 'dry' mode to dehumidify. a week without central AC during monsoon season makes it humid inside
17:50 arcanez note: humid in AZ is anything > 30%
17:52 genio feels like 40c with actual reading of 31.66C   I still wonder what they base the "feels like" on
17:52 Grinnz genio: humidity, i think
17:52 sri marcus: yes, but i can't really work on the terrace, not found the right furniture yet maybe
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17:53 Grinnz theres some good high quality patio furniture out there
17:53 marcus biggest issue for me is usually screen reflection.
17:53 marcus as long as I can sort that out, I'm mostly fine anywhere
17:53 sri genio: it's an old school german house with thatched roof, there isn't really a place where an AC wouldn't look totally out of place http://i.imgur.com/bcdGuzF.jpg
17:54 Grinnz especially with all that snow!
17:54 * sri nods
17:54 marcus wow, sri lives in a gingerbread house!
17:55 marcus #saved
17:59 sri :p
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18:13 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/v7smE
18:13 good_news_everyon mojo/master 118a0c4 William Lindley: Add 'special' attribute to Mojolicious::Static to permit examining, overriding, or disabling any or all bundled files. Resolves #1094...
18:13 good_news_everyon mojo/master 25819ea Sebastian Riedel: Merge pull request #1113 from lindleyw/enumerated-bundled...
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18:13 sri still needs a little cleaning up, but mostly ok imo
18:16 genio sri: Nice looking place. too much of that white stuff though.
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18:36 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7ssj
18:36 good_news_everyon mojo/master ecc4174 Sebastian Riedel: rename special attribute to extra
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18:39 sri i like ->extra a little better than ->special, but am open for suggestions
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18:46 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7sn7
18:46 good_news_everyon mojo/master 783a9bb Sebastian Riedel: mention that extra files are only a fallback
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18:57 sri genio: thanks to global warming it's mostly just raining all year long
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20:16 Eoin Anyone have suggestions for more modern HTML/CSS -> PDF generation?
20:17 preaction firefox/chrome running in headless mode. i'm pretty sure that's what it's for
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22:10 good_news_everyon [mojo] kraih pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/v7s7V
22:10 good_news_everyon mojo/master 9810fee Sebastian Riedel: fix typo in example
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22:12 sri my current vscode settongs btw. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7dcbdfec41b4f6c2c9e1e09396ab7be6
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22:57 jberger sri nice place you've got there
23:08 spicyjack sri: you can get an AC where the compressor/fan is outside, and the coolant is piped to a radiator inside
23:08 spicyjack sri: then hide the compressor with bushes
23:08 spicyjack sri: the compressor is still noisy though
23:08 spicyjack sri: the other thing you could consider is ceiling fans
23:09 spicyjack sri: it helps to have air moving, at least
23:10 spicyjack sri: it hits 30C+ inside my house (Southern California) about 2-3 weeks during the summer, and all I have are ceiling fans
23:11 spicyjack sri: and an afternoon breeze that comes in off of the Pacific Ocean
23:39 arcanez must be in San Diego or similar
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