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IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-03-22

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18:04 CEnnis91 trolol http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/22/motorola-​announces-the-motoactv-golf-edition-gps-tracki​ng-20000-courses-and-virtual-caddy-included/
18:05 Snoothy which probably is exactly the same as the normal edition with an extra app xD
18:06 CEnnis91 with the extra app that is already in 5.6.0 i think
18:06 CEnnis91 theres a golf app in 5.6.0
18:07 Snoothy really?
18:07 CEnnis91 yes
18:07 CEnnis91 but idk what it does
18:07 Snoothy you haven't been able to launch it?
18:08 CEnnis91 i dont have a device so nope
18:08 Snoothy ah
18:09 Snoothy i'm getting mine at the start of may ?_?
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20:18 dproldan [mbm]: wondering what the golf app was about…http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/motorola-intr​os-motoactv-golf-edition-doesnt-come-in-pastel/
20:19 [mbm] dproldan: managed to start it manually from the commandline and poke around but I didn't see it in the menus
20:20 Snoothy do you really think that would be the upcoming app?
20:20 dproldan probably a new soft version is coming out for the "golf edition"
20:20 [mbm] the golf apk was in the latest update
20:21 [mbm] sounds exactly like the description in the article
20:22 Snoothy They might sell an upgrade to MOTOACTV users so you won't have to buy the golf edition
20:22 [mbm] you need to select a state/area and it downloads maps of all golf courses in the area
20:22 dproldan I mean,  something will come out to enable it for a golf edition motoactv
20:22 dproldan cool
20:22 Snoothy are maps only available for US golf courses?
20:22 [mbm] then you start a new round and gps tries to figure out which course you're on
20:23 [mbm] dunno
20:23 dproldan a golf match takes between 4-5 hours,  let's see how the battery behaves
20:23 [mbm] dproldan: yeah, probably intentionally hid the apk
20:23 [mbm] so they could sell it somehow
20:24 [mbm] if you're on 1.6.x/5.6.x you can start it via adb
20:24 Snoothy do you have the intent to start it?
20:25 [mbm] forgot now, but do a dumpstate and then grep for something like START_GOLF
20:26 Snoothy i presume you could just make a dummy app which launches it?
20:26 Snoothy in case you actually want to use it now
20:26 [mbm] otherwise I'll look it up later when I have my motoactv handy
20:26 [mbm] right
20:26 [mbm] some launchers let you add intents
20:27 Snoothy haven't really poked around with custom launchers
20:27 Snoothy but that's quite handy
20:27 [mbm] yeah, I'm running mostly stock on mine
20:29 Snoothy are you writing info down somewhere, like a wiki, or do you keep this stuff to irc?
20:30 [mbm] put mine in marathon mode, dimmed the screen to the lowest level and left bluetooth disconnected .. battery hasn't been charged in about 2 days and it still shows 50%
20:31 [mbm] not bad for idle
20:31 Snoothy nice, and i was worried about battery xD
20:38 [mbm] 1d 22h on battery :)
20:38 Snoothy i'm happy if will just last for 14 hours with regular use
20:39 [mbm] of course it's been in idle with screen off for most of that
20:40 [mbm] I like the screen though,it's so reflective you barely need the backlight
20:42 [mbm] motoactv phone app seems to be a massive drain on the both batteries
20:42 [mbm] plus a few times I caught the phone app stuck in a loop with 100% cpu
20:43 [mbm] can't figure out why they'd leave bt connected the entire time
20:44 [mbm] would make more sense to connect as needed or every 15+ minutes
20:44 Snoothy maybe to check for notifications like sms and phone calls
20:45 [mbm] sure, but constantly?
20:45 [mbm] if there's a phone call the phone should be able to connect to the motoactv and tell it
20:46 Snoothy if they are paired already, yea
20:46 [mbm] right
20:46 [mbm] but it seems like it keeps the bt li k active the entire time
20:51 ds2 has anyone looked into putting all the functionality of the stock apps into a launcher so one can have the best of both worlds (prehaps a recursive launcher that launches the default one?)
20:52 [mbm] dunno how much of stock android is practical on the tiny screen
20:52 Snoothy I have made a custom version of XBMC remote
20:53 Snoothy to fit the screen
20:53 ds2 not so much stock as it is a way to launch apps
20:55 * [mbm] had noticed that if you load a stock launcher and press the start button it goes into exercise mode and the back button takes you to the moto launcher with no obvious way back to the android launcher
20:56 [mbm] also, unless you change the dpi android apps look ugly and/or don't fit on the screen
20:56 [mbm] dpi=96 solves android apps but breaks the moto apps
20:57 Snoothy what dpi do you use?
20:57 Snoothy o
20:57 [mbm] moto requires dpi=120
20:57 Snoothy less dpi gives more space on the screen?
20:57 [mbm] yep
20:58 [mbm] the higher the dpi the more pixels it will use to display the same picture
20:59 dproldan do the moto apps launch at all with 82 dpi?  or are they just distorted?
20:59 [mbm] the real issue is lazy developers that don't anchor all their widgets to some fixed point
21:00 [mbm] so when you change the dpi it doesn't just scale
21:00 dproldan yeah,  i've seen that.  have my sgs2 at a lower dpi
21:00 [mbm] each laher scales in a different way
21:00 [mbm] and they nolonger line up
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