Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

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00:00 utkanos hahaha wow
00:00 [mbm] had to get the real ebr from ds2
00:00 CEnnis91 so thats what that was about
00:00 CEnnis91 what is the ebr
00:00 [mbm] dos partition
00:00 [mbm] mbr = primary partition table
00:01 [mbm] ebr = extended partition
00:01 CEnnis91 [mbm]: is there any chance the guy with the 16gb could have his device fucked?
00:01 ds2 it is a way of getting more partitions then the 4
00:01 [mbm] with another partition table
00:01 ds2 mbr only knows about 4 of them
00:01 [mbm] CEnnis91: with recovery? don't think so
00:01 CEnnis91 okay
00:02 [mbm] mine only fucked up because I was reflashing
00:03 [mbm] thought I had backups of everything but turns out I didn't have ebr backed up correctly
00:03 utkanos you can usually fix most things CEnnis91, but he was doing something more invasive
00:03 [mbm] supposed to be 512k but the dd from /dev was only 1k
00:04 CEnnis91 well what were you trying to doing?
00:04 utkanos :P
00:04 [mbm] didn't noticed until fastboot flash
00:04 [mbm] at which point it erased ebr and wrote 1k
00:04 utkanos yeah
00:04 utkanos lol
00:04 CEnnis91 utkanos: did you fastboot the new recovery in yet?
00:04 utkanos what
00:05 [mbm] CEnnis91: screwing around wirh fastboot doing dangerous and stupid stuff :)
00:05 CEnnis91 utkanos: theres no reason we need to dd in recovery
00:05 utkanos writing it via fastboot didnt work for me initially
00:05 CEnnis91 yea well try it now =)
00:05 utkanos ill try it now lol
00:05 [mbm] worked fine for ke :P
00:06 [mbm] *me
00:06 utkanos i think it might be a size thing or something, my image is bigger
00:06 [mbm] flash recovery, misc, then reboot
00:06 utkanos there is a threshold to how big this can be before it wont boot
00:06 utkanos even though the partition is 9mb
00:06 CEnnis91 [mbm]: where are the boot key codes held?
00:06 [mbm] mbm
00:07 CEnnis91 shouldnt you be able to read that?
00:07 CEnnis91 to some extent
00:08 [mbm] sure, mess of assembly code and data
00:08 [mbm] takes ages to find anything in there
00:08 CEnnis91 for sake of being lazy, how would you disassemble it?
00:08 utkanos [mbm]: did moto not program a way out of adb reboot bootloader
00:09 utkanos would be interesting to see why that happens too
00:09 utkanos and yeah this recovery works via fastboot now, score
00:09 [mbm] CEnnis91: you'd use a tool like objdump, or ida to convert the binary to arm assembly
00:10 utkanos my friend has a pro license with arm support
00:10 CEnnis91 good enough starting point ty
00:10 CEnnis91 oh thats right
00:10 [mbm] bonus points if you have another grand to spend on hexrays for arm to convert the assembly to c
00:10 utkanos couldn't justify it, dunno what im doing
00:10 CEnnis91 you and Camel were talking about that
00:10 CEnnis91 (ida)
00:11 [mbm] ida and hexrays are expensive as hell
00:11 utkanos yeah they are
00:12 [mbm] torrents seem to be lacking the arm hexrays ;)
00:12 CEnnis91 [mbm]: utkanos: know of any decent cheap solutions?
00:12 utkanos not really
00:12 CEnnis91 fuck, half-assed free solution is fine
00:12 utkanos patience
00:12 utkanos :P
00:12 [mbm] cheap solution only gets you assembly
00:12 [mbm] few million lines of it with no variable names
00:13 CEnnis91 meh
00:13 CEnnis91 yea i know what assembly looks like
00:13 CEnnis91 z80 made my head hurt
00:14 [mbm] hexrays is awesome but that only gets you a few thousand strange looking c functions with weird var names
00:14 CEnnis91 [mbm]: you own it? or just used it in your line of work
00:15 [mbm] looks less like c that someone would write and more like a monkey bashed a typewritter and magically it managed to compile
00:15 [mbm] I've used hexrays before on x86 stuff
00:15 CEnnis91 that didnt answer my question =)
00:16 [mbm] uhh.. 5th
00:16 CEnnis91 got it
00:16 CEnnis91 lol
00:16 CEnnis91 hmmm well i found this in hex
00:16 CEnnis91 ugh fucking copy work
00:17 CEnnis91 3.MBM - Launch recovery
00:18 [mbm] yeah, mbm actually has a debug console
00:18 [mbm] don't think there's any way to see it though
00:19 CEnnis91 trickle charging done
00:20 CEnnis91 (basically just looking at all the messages tbh)
00:23 ds2
00:23 CEnnis91 [mbm]: boot-recovery
00:23 CEnnis91 MISC command:
00:23 CEnnis91 recovery command read from MISC
00:23 CEnnis91 ....lol
00:24 CEnnis91 boot_mode (1 for recovery): %d
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00:27 CEnnis91 UMTS-Sholes)
00:27 CEnnis91 heh, why is this in there
00:37 [mbm] fastboot getvar product
00:37 [mbm] if you do that it tells you something similar to the above string
00:41 utkanos i like how it's called mapphone too :P
00:41 utkanos in the kernel source
00:52 [mbm] everything is a mapphone
00:53 [mbm] map = motorola android platform
00:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: the file format of mbm.bin is not recognized in anything i try
00:59 [mbm] arm-eabi-objdump -m arm -b binary mbm.bin
00:59 [mbm] something like that
01:06 ds2 what is mbm.bin suppose to be? bootloader?
01:25 CEnnis91 [mbm]: meh, nothing i can dump other files fine
01:25 CEnnis91 oh well
01:43 CEnnis91 lol yay for grepping to cheat at draw something
02:26 CEnnis91 [mbm]: http://pastebin.com/ddwDnGDF interesting, is that valid thou?
02:28 [mbm] dunno, seems weird
02:28 [mbm] why does sideloading with adb work?
02:28 CEnnis91 well
02:28 [mbm] ds2: yep.
02:28 CEnnis91 from what ive seen
02:28 CEnnis91 sideloading seemed weird
02:29 CEnnis91 [mbm]: no matter what i tried, install via terminal, or adb would never go to /system
02:29 CEnnis91 even with it properly mounted and what have you
02:29 CEnnis91 this was again over remote, so idk for sure
02:30 [mbm] and?
02:31 CEnnis91 not sure, felt related in some loose sense
02:31 [mbm] installed packages aren't supposed to go to /system
02:31 [mbm] they go in /data/app
02:31 CEnnis91 "arent supposed to"?
02:34 [mbm] you sound shocked
02:35 CEnnis91 last time i checked pm install can install to any path
02:37 [mbm] only timme /system ever changes is after an ota update
02:37 [mbm] the rest of the time it's readonly
02:37 CEnnis91 well not if you mount it as rw
02:38 [mbm] if the market pushes an update to a system app the update will be installed in /data/app
02:38 CEnnis91 yes, i know that
02:41 CEnnis91 *shrug* ill just wait to get the device
02:52 [mbm] this make sense to anyone else -
02:52 [mbm] http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/30​/motorola-starts-rollout-of-motoactv-so​ftware-update-v6-5-with-golf-features/
02:56 [mbm] saying no updates for mine
02:56 CEnnis91 no clue
02:56 CEnnis91 the moto site doesnt have any announcement
02:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/55051915ca
02:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: release fail?
02:57 [mbm] last update as 5.6 which includes golf .. just hidden
02:58 [mbm] wondering if androidpolice is just dyslexic
02:58 CEnnis91 that too, but you cant be dyslexic with the "free/paid" remark
02:59 [mbm] hmm
03:02 [mbm] Blur_Version.5.6.11.Motorola-F100.Retail.en.US
03:02 [mbm] hmm..
03:02 CEnnis91 found it?
03:03 CEnnis91 theres no link for that
03:03 CEnnis91 unless they changed their format of the urls
03:03 [mbm] Blur_Version.5.6.10.Motorola-F100.Retail.en.US
03:04 CEnnis91 yep
03:04 CEnnis91 thats there
03:04 CEnnis91 [mbm]: did you mitm?
03:06 [mbm] manually poked the server checking for updates
03:06 [mbm] that was the version number in the response
03:06 [mbm] need to do more work to dig out the url
03:06 CEnnis91 i already have the ota file lol
03:07 CEnnis91 [mbm]: pm-ed
03:07 CEnnis91 moto keeps their ota file format the same
03:31 [mbm] installed .. rebooting ..
03:33 [mbm] looks the same :/
03:37 CEnnis91 so, about the legality of downloading the maps and posting them for addition into rooted devices...
03:37 CEnnis91 after april 16
03:39 [mbm] heh
03:41 CEnnis91 you know people will be asking
03:41 CEnnis91 how many are available for download?
03:41 CEnnis91 or did you not even setup a motoactv account
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03:46 [mbm] you launch the app and select your state and it downloads all the maps for that state
03:46 [mbm] nothing in there about payment
03:47 CEnnis91 how big are the map files?
03:48 CEnnis91 If you own an 8GB MOTOACTV, you must download it BEFORE APRIL 16TH, 2012.  If you do not, and want the golf capabilities after this date, you will be able to purchase a software load with a full production version of MOTOACTV's golf capabilities later in the year.
03:48 CEnnis91 from: https://motorola-global-portal.custhe​lp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/82794
03:51 [mbm] sorry, distracted by trying to figure out why they patched boot.img
03:52 [mbm] ramdisk looks the same
03:52 CEnnis91 kernel?
03:52 CEnnis91 modules were updated
03:54 CEnnis91 [mbm]: im guessing you just went back to stock to do this?
03:54 CEnnis91 this = update
03:57 [mbm] yeah
03:58 [mbm] kernel has been recompiled but I'm not seeing any actual changes
03:58 CEnnis91 heh
03:58 CEnnis91 well i guess i should post this
03:58 [mbm] might as well use boot-5.6.0-root.img again
03:58 CEnnis91 yea
03:59 CEnnis91 ill make the stock .imgs when i get this thing
03:59 CEnnis91 [mbm]: how big are the downloads?
03:59 CEnnis91 for the maps
04:05 [mbm] 27.6M/sdcard/golfcourses/CA/
04:05 utkanos lol
04:06 [mbm] also since my hacked boot.img sets persist.service.adb.enable=1 adb is enabled in stock roms
04:06 [mbm] which means it won't sync with the pc
04:07 CEnnis91 oh so thats the reason for that
04:07 utkanos motosync
04:07 utkanos lol
04:07 CEnnis91 hm
04:07 utkanos or w/e
04:07 CEnnis91 1.38gb
04:07 CEnnis91 thats not bad
04:07 [mbm] and since adb isn't running as root I can't do the 'stop adbd' trick
04:07 [mbm] huh, 1.38gb for what?
04:08 CEnnis91 im assuming every state will have about 27.6MB for the course data
04:08 CEnnis91 totals to 1.38gb
04:08 [mbm] ah
04:08 CEnnis91 thats not bad, ill probably grab them all when i get the device
04:09 CEnnis91 did i put the persist prop in my boot.img?
04:09 CEnnis91 hmmm
04:09 CEnnis91 [mbm]: a factory reset removes that right?
04:09 [mbm] yep
04:09 utkanos its already in the default.prop from the original hacked boot.img
04:09 [mbm] or this -
04:09 [mbm] am start -n com.android.settings/.DevelopmentSettings
04:10 CEnnis91 i should probably fix that for stock roms
04:11 [mbm] anyway, with the maps downloaded to the sd and the sd mounted every time you plug into the pc, wouldn't it be extremely easy to copy maps?
04:11 CEnnis91 i would think so
04:11 CEnnis91 where are you going with that?
04:11 [mbm] dunno
04:12 [mbm] and why the ^&*% is there a __MACOSX in there .. it hasn't been plugged into a mac
04:12 utkanos lol
04:13 [mbm] hmm, all the files are <number>.xml.enc
04:14 [mbm] guess that means encrapted.
04:14 utkanos :P
04:14 CEnnis91 [mbm]: does that mean we wont be able to copy around?
04:15 [mbm] dunno
04:16 CEnnis91 still trying to figure out if its actually gonna be illegal or not to pass them around afterwards
04:17 CEnnis91 especially when they are saved to the sdcard
04:21 ds2 are those maps based on OSM like the current exercise maps?
04:21 [mbm] dunno, I've never set foot on a golf course
04:21 [mbm] (golf app is gps activated)
04:21 ds2 I think they have to disclose it
04:22 utkanos the only golf courses I've been on, I've driven the cart and drank beer
04:22 utkanos lol
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04:27 CEnnis91 do minigolf courses count?
04:35 [mbm] dunno, did you drive a golf cart and drink beer?
04:37 JohnDoe_ LOL
04:37 utkanos laff
04:42 JohnDoe_ Still working on the Market solution, Framework FCs constantly but after that the programs install fine, just cannot search.  Anyone know the workaround?
04:43 JohnDoe_ I read that Ianas knows of a solution, just haven't seen it.
04:45 JohnDoe_ Contacts (phone or gmail) would be a nice addition too... GO Contacts will not see/edit either gmail or phone contacts and trying to install Contacts.apk from 2.3.3 will not install
04:48 CEnnis91 hmmm
04:48 CEnnis91 15hours - 63% left - Screen usage - 42%
04:51 ds2 why bother with market?
04:51 JohnDoe_ If someone is interested in my modded contacts.apk to try to install (differently) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/65525444/Contacts.apk | I tried on the watch, droidexplorer and copying to /system/apps too
04:52 JohnDoe_ To eleviate hunting for APKs on the net, also everything is updated from Market: if a program updates you'll know :)
04:52 ds2 BAH
04:53 ds2 market should be boycotted
04:53 ds2 market is spyware
04:53 JohnDoe_ True in many cases...
04:53 ds2 true in everycase
04:53 ds2 that piece of shit just goes and decides to update itself w/o asking for permission
04:54 ds2 besides, installing market would probally kill battery life
04:54 JohnDoe_ It updates if you tell it to do so automatically, otherwise you are asked.  Besides now it will show Framework FC, so you'll know that it is trying to update
04:54 ds2 I explicitly ask it not to update
04:55 ds2 but it makes a special case for the market app itself
04:55 JohnDoe_ true
04:55 CEnnis91 well its android itself that makes the exception
04:55 JohnDoe_ true
04:55 ds2 all google crap needs to be kept off the device
04:55 CEnnis91 ds2: also, if market is that big of a battery drain, make it toggable for usage
04:55 ds2 wasn't there a study recently saying more battery is used by the ad services then actual apps?
04:56 CEnnis91 clsoe
04:56 ds2 CEnnis91: all I can say is after adding market to the archos tablet, battery life went to hell
04:56 CEnnis91 apps with ads had more drain then non
04:56 JohnDoe_ adfree is what is says it is: free
04:56 ds2 market by definite an app with ads
04:56 CEnnis91 JohnDoe_: the ad code still exists with adfree
04:56 CEnnis91 so i doubt the battery drain exists
04:57 CEnnis91 er
04:57 CEnnis91 i doubt the battery drain goes away
04:58 ds2 someone needs to correlate ads with global warming
04:58 JohnDoe_ true, at least you wont have to see the ads... they make up a lot or everything in this 'FREE' internet schema
04:58 ds2 programs that use ads is not free.
04:58 ds2 it is fraudant to call them free
04:59 JohnDoe_ Methane free ads: LOL
04:59 ds2 there are truely free alternatives.
05:01 JohnDoe_ Anyone here wish to try to assist in the 'contacts' delema?  I got my coffee and am ready to try to debug this thing...
05:02 JohnDoe_ Or reverse engineer, whatever...
05:02 CEnnis91 well without any account settings contacts would be an issue
05:03 JohnDoe_ Gmail is installed and working with the account, they should share the same account
05:03 CEnnis91 get a log for when it crashes then post it in here
05:04 JohnDoe_ Where do I get the logs from?
05:04 CEnnis91 logcat
05:04 JohnDoe_ OK
05:05 CEnnis91 JohnDoe_: cant say anything will be done tonight, but ill look at it regardless
05:09 JohnDoe_ my logcat is immense, cannot see anything that logically applies to my installation attempt
05:12 JohnDoe_ logcat | grep Launcher ?
05:13 CEnnis91 logcat -c before install
05:13 CEnnis91 logcat -d > log.txt after crash
05:13 CEnnis91 (clear, dump)
06:13 JohnDoe_ I am looking into the GO Contacts not seeing/writing internal or gmail : ActivityThread: Failed to find provider info for com.android.contacts 03-31 08:08:13.233  2237  2267 E
06:14 JohnDoe_ My provider is where it is supposed to be, at least I copied it from my tablet and set it all to 666, but why is it not seeing?
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07:05 [mbm] .
07:06 dproldan ..
07:06 [mbm] you see there's a new update?
07:06 dproldan yep,  just read about it on xda
07:07 dproldan anythiing worthy
07:07 dproldan ?
07:08 [mbm] doesn't seem to be
07:09 [mbm] only noticable change seems to be that they added golf to the exercise page
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07:20 dproldan I've never seen the charge_only_mode running,
07:20 dproldan but it's there : https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6b2bf93681
07:31 [mbm] hmm? I've seen it
07:31 [mbm] power down while on ac charge
07:32 [mbm] think the've had that power meter in all devices since the milestone (notably not in the droid)
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07:33 [mbm] re.
07:38 dproldan USB:   F100 #5?  how many modes has this thing?
07:38 dproldan Motorola PCS
07:53 [mbm] about 20
07:57 [mbm] msc,msc_only,cdrom,msc_adb,eth,mtp,acm,eth_​adb,acm_eth_mtp,mtp_adb,acm_eth_mtp_adb,acm​_eth_adb,msc_eth,msc_adb_eth,charge_only,ch​arge_adb,rndis,rndis_adb,ets,ets_adb,cdrom2
08:01 dproldan the hell?
08:02 dproldan this cm7 zip i built will not install from recovery,  but the log goes too fast for me to see the problem
08:03 dproldan is that log saved somewhere?
08:03 [mbm] usb driver supports various combinations of msc (mass storage + cdrom), adb, usb ethernet, mtp, acm ...
08:03 [mbm] sure, /cache/recovery/last_log
08:03 dproldan lemme se
08:06 dproldan oops,  I left a cdma_f100 prop somewhere
08:09 dproldan hmm, no I didn't...
08:10 [mbm] funny that the bootloader call it a umts-sholes
08:10 dproldan is says:  assert failed: get prop("ro.product.device") == "cdma_f100" ...
08:11 dproldan the same for ro.build.product and ro.product.board
08:12 [mbm] quick and dirty thing is to edit updater-script and remove the assert
08:17 dproldan I'm gripping the device and vendor tree,  it can't find that string anywhere (cdma_f100)
08:17 dproldan grepping
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10:34 funkyb Hi, i have just got a motoactv and wish to root it but my software version is 4.57.71. can it be rooted on this version?
13:11 CEnnis91 heh, when i tried the update-zips any assert on the build.prop failed
13:11 CEnnis91 even the ones in the ota's
13:11 CEnnis91 i would think it's the recovery thuo
13:21 utkanos its the name
13:21 utkanos cdma_f100 is not what is in the make files
13:22 utkanos its F100
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14:05 cubecloudos Hi... sorry if this is a dev blog and I'm not supposed to post here but... when 5.6.10 (6.5) comes out do I have to restore to stock or can I wait for the trusty devs from xda to make the upgraders a update.zip?
14:12 utkanos no you're welcome here
14:13 utkanos there will be an update created
14:13 utkanos most likely
14:13 cubecloudos thank you...
14:13 utkanos there are two guys actively working on that
14:13 utkanos so for every new update you can hopefully expect a new package
14:13 cubecloudos clearD?
14:13 utkanos and CEnnis91
14:13 utkanos yes
14:14 cubecloudos ok thanks
14:14 utkanos sure
14:18 cubecloudos I'm trying to mod some apk's from the original droid and I cant find a stock rom inside the forums I'm trying to make a rom w/overclocking kernel and a few extras (namely a ics like theme) do you know where I can find a stock droid rom?
14:20 utkanos no, sorry. I'm sure you can find an sbf file though
14:20 utkanos kernel source is on motodev though I'm sure
14:20 utkanos for sholes
14:21 cubecloudos yep I just did on a droid forum... but all the files are predated 2.1 not 2.3+
14:22 utkanos oh
14:22 utkanos did moto even drop gb for sholes?
14:22 utkanos I want to say I doubt it
14:23 cubecloudos not that I know of
14:23 utkanos I think it just got froyo, could be wrong though
14:23 utkanos then you wont really find a stock rom :)
14:23 cubecloudos ah well...
14:23 cubecloudos Ill just use you guys 5.6stock zip
14:23 utkanos ?
14:23 utkanos on sholes?
14:23 utkanos or for the f100
14:23 cubecloudos its gonna take more time though
14:23 cubecloudos f100
14:24 utkanos oh..
14:25 cubecloudos actually I have a very unstable themed rom already... its ics blue themed has ics icon but stock launcher fc's and I cant get bluetooth to work also touchscreen and buttons not working
14:26 cubecloudos I probably will post it once we have our own forum... :)
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19:08 dproldan woot!
19:08 dproldan I'm using the MotoACTV as a trackpad for my laptop,  how cool is that?
19:09 cmw im using it as a watch! how cool is that
19:09 cmw :p
19:12 dproldan heh
19:13 dproldan keyboard also works
19:13 dproldan nice as a remote for vlc in a HTPC
19:14 dproldan BluePutDroid is the program if anybody's interested
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20:01 CEnnis91 cmw: how dare you use your android device for what it was intended!
20:03 dproldan that's not the spirit...
20:03 CEnnis91 it certainly isnt
20:03 CEnnis91 i rarely use my android as an actual phone
20:03 CEnnis91 well to call anyway
20:04 dproldan I didn't buy it for the training things, you can be sure
20:09 utkanos hey dproldan
20:09 utkanos you werent around earlier bu
20:09 utkanos the board config for the device is set for F100
20:09 utkanos as the device name, for the assert check
20:09 utkanos so you can either replace that in the make files or change the assert to look for F100
20:10 CEnnis91 utkanos: you fixed the asserts?
20:10 utkanos the assert has nothing to do with clockwork
20:10 utkanos it has to do with the update binary
20:10 CEnnis91 oh
20:10 CEnnis91 so we have to use a new one?
20:10 dproldan set as F100 where?  is this a hardware thing?  because I changed all the strings accordingly
20:10 CEnnis91 or what
20:10 utkanos dproldan: int he device config tree
20:11 utkanos in the board or device makes
20:11 utkanos what does the official updater-script search for
20:11 utkanos in its asserts
20:11 dproldan I changed all that to F100 before building,
20:11 utkanos it should already have been
20:11 utkanos but eralier you mentioned cdma_f100
20:11 CEnnis91 one sec
20:11 utkanos that is going to fail because its called F100
20:12 CEnnis91 assert(file_getprop("/system/build.prop", "ro.build.fingerprint") == "MOTO/G2/G2:2.3.4/4.5.1-26_G2-233​_SA-50/111029:user/release-keys" ||
20:12 CEnnis91 file_getprop("/system/build.prop", "ro.build.fingerprint") == "MOTO/G2/G2:2.3.4/4.5.1-26_G2-284_US​-MR4-78/111220:user/release-keys");
20:12 CEnnis91 assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "G2" ||
20:12 CEnnis91 getprop("ro.build.product") == "G2");
20:13 CEnnis91 utkanos: but iirc even the ro.product.device assert failed
20:13 utkanos ah
20:13 dproldan yes,  I tried to look for that string,  in case I forgot it somewhere an I couldn't find it
20:13 utkanos that is strange
20:14 utkanos just disable the check then
20:14 CEnnis91 yea i was gonna look into it more once i got the device
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20:19 dproldan of course,  I left too many references to "shadow" behind,  I'll go through them and see...
20:20 utkanos were you able to get your aosp port to boot
20:20 utkanos without the assert, or haven't gotten that far?
20:22 dproldan I don't want to remove the assert  :-)
20:22 utkanos heh
20:23 dproldan I'll use that as a tool to tel myself that I don't control this thing enough
20:23 utkanos you are a far more patient man than I
20:23 utkanos :P
20:35 dproldan I'm starting again,  now that I've learned a few things...
20:36 dproldan for a start,  what's the f&%$ng name of this thing?   G2?  F100?  Begonia?
20:45 utkanos dont forget mapphone
20:45 utkanos haha
21:40 dproldan utkanos:  you want to make setup github for android_vendor_motorola_F100 too?  to keep things in the same place?
22:46 utkanos I can do tht sure

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