Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-04-04

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00:39 dproldan can I mount the sdcard in recovery?
00:41 dproldan is it emstorage?
00:42 dproldan answer myself,  yes
00:48 dproldan shit,  battery low,  cannot program
00:49 dproldan another thing for tomorrow,  a factory cable
00:49 dproldan g'night
00:54 CEnnis91 [mbm]: 3.x includes a newer toolbox?
00:54 [mbm] yep
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01:01 CEnnis91 hey Bugaboo75
01:01 Bugaboo75 hey CEnnis
01:02 CEnnis91 alright, so i only need the preinstall.img its going to be almost the same process as pulling the system.img like last night
01:03 Bugaboo75 okay, sounds good
01:03 CEnnis91 so you still have the rooted boot.img right, where you have adb shell in android?
01:03 Bugaboo75 I believe I still do, lemme check
01:04 Bugaboo75 yes, I have boot image 5.6.0-root
01:04 CEnnis91 okay, so boot into android, plug it in and "adb shell"
01:05 Bugaboo75 yup, I'm in
01:05 CEnnis91 okay
01:05 CEnnis91 first
01:05 CEnnis91 ls /dev/block | grep -i preinstall
01:05 CEnnis91 and what does it return
01:06 Bugaboo75 says "grep: not found
01:06 CEnnis91 heh
01:06 CEnnis91 okay no busybox
01:06 CEnnis91 ls /dev/block
01:07 CEnnis91 itll likely show quite a few lines
01:07 Bugaboo75 ok, it spit out a bunch of mmcblk...
01:07 CEnnis91 is "preinstall" one of them
01:07 Bugaboo75 yup
01:07 CEnnis91 okay
01:07 CEnnis91 so
01:07 CEnnis91 cp /dev/block/preinstall /sdcard/preinstall.img
01:08 Bugaboo75 okay, done
01:08 CEnnis91 stop adbd
01:08 CEnnis91 and pull the preinstall.img off the /sdcard
01:09 Bugaboo75 okay, gimme a sec to upload to dropbox
01:09 CEnnis91 just check the size of it real fast
01:09 Bugaboo75 175 mb
01:09 CEnnis91 yup perfect
01:09 CEnnis91 good to upload
01:10 Bugaboo75 uploading now - will send linky when upload complete
01:10 Bugaboo75 anything else I need to save?
01:13 CEnnis91 ummm probably not
01:14 CEnnis91 [mbm]: should we save the cdt.bin, ebr, or mbm from the 16gb?
01:18 Bugaboo75 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6642209/preinstall.img
01:19 [mbm] CEnnis91: planning on changing those from stock?
01:19 CEnnis91 no, but arent they specifically different from the 8gb?
01:19 [mbm] also, nuke mbm and it doesn't go into fastboot, so no point in backing that up
01:20 [mbm] could be, dunno
01:20 CEnnis91 *shrug* im really the only one who makes roms that even knows about those partitions
01:20 [mbm] my point though is that otas don't touch those and I'm guessing users won't either
01:20 CEnnis91 except for tan, but hes not dumb enough to touch them anyway
01:20 CEnnis91 yea
01:20 CEnnis91 Bugaboo75: so yea, that's all i need, lemme just mount your image to make sure it looks normal
01:21 Bugaboo75 okay, sounds good
01:21 CEnnis91 yep, all good
01:22 Bugaboo75 Okay, cool.  Have I backed up what I needed so I can use the root and easy modder tools?
01:22 CEnnis91 system.img boot.img preinstall.img?
01:22 Bugaboo75 yup, I think you had me back those up and post to dropbox
01:23 CEnnis91 yea that's all you'll need, we definitely modify system and boot, and i might modify preinstall in the future so everything looks good
01:23 CEnnis91 i promise ill put these to use shortly, i just need the device =)
01:23 Bugaboo75 okay sounds good - hope the images helped you. ;)
01:25 CEnnis91 well they actually probably help you more then anything, they'll get you back to stock if you ever want =)
01:25 CEnnis91 but thanks
01:25 Bugaboo75 LOL - gotcha.  Yeah, getting back to stock is a good thing, since either I or someone else will probably screw up something.
01:26 CEnnis91 heh, also, dont get used to the root tools, i will be (hopefully) making them obsolete shortly
01:27 Bugaboo75 okay, cool, will continue to read up on xda on your exploits. ;)
01:28 CEnnis91 lol, note, this is not just me, alot is coming from [mbm], even if he doesn't post or acknowledge it
01:29 Bugaboo75 yeah, I see you guys are working as a team - awesome that devs are working on the motoactv - still need an official xda thread...
01:29 CEnnis91 don't hold your breath on that
01:29 [mbm] you mean the hundred+ page xda thread they have already?
01:30 Bugaboo75 yeah, but would be nice to have an official thread.  I think folks stumble upon it accidentally.  Hell, I did.
01:33 [mbm] yeah, need to figure out a way to organize all the stuff I have
01:35 Bugaboo75 def would be nice
01:35 utkanos they should make a forum for it, seems like there's enough people using it
01:36 Bugaboo75 yeah, I think if an official forum, you would have many more folks
01:40 CEnnis91 i think the number of people using it actively is only about 20
01:40 CEnnis91 tbh
01:44 [mbm] it's gone up in the past two weeks
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01:51 CEnnis91 yea i suppose so
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02:55 Quietlyawesome94 you guys should try the impossible game on this
02:57 cmw hide the pickel ?
03:03 Quietlyawesome94 wuh?
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03:09 bigbob Ive been trying to update my actv so that I can use root tools , but I keep getting a server down due to maintenance message.  My actv also will not connect to the internet via USB...WTF...its been doing this for the past 5 hours
03:10 CEnnis91 bigbob: whats your current version
03:11 bigbob 4.53.50
03:12 bigbob according to root tools i need to be on : 4.55.78/4.55.97 or 5.6.0/1.6.0
03:12 CEnnis91 heh, they dont even have recent deltas for this
03:12 CEnnis91 is that thing brand new?
03:13 bigbob yup, just got it today
03:13 Quietlyawesome94 So I'm thinking about getting one of these. what things do you guys use it for that you cant do with stock software?
03:14 CEnnis91 bigbob: pm-ed you the link to get to 4.55.78
03:16 bigbob thanks man, do I have to use fastboot for this
03:17 CEnnis91 hold on
03:17 CEnnis91 where the hell did utkanos put the new recovery
03:17 bigbob ok
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03:18 lownox yo
03:18 lownox how goes it here
03:19 CEnnis91 bigbob: meh just wait to see if the servers are up
03:19 CEnnis91 haha
03:20 bigbob lol...its not funny dammit you gave me false hope, ok thanks for the effort, I will just keep checking until the damn thing updates
03:20 CEnnis91 lol okay
03:21 Quietlyawesome94 ...
03:22 bigbob Quietly:  if you root and install custom recovery you can install custom rom, a different launcher and also run some android apps.  Check out the wiki page it will show you what's compatible
03:23 Quietlyawesome94 Yeah I know all that
03:23 Quietlyawesome94 was wondering what you guys are using it for
03:25 lownox can't get mine to be recognized as sdcard anymore... any ideas
03:25 lownox stop adbd
03:25 lownox tried adb shell
03:25 lownox didn't work
03:25 lownox running stock
03:26 lownox brb
03:26 CEnnis91 did you return to stock?
03:26 CEnnis91 from being rooted
03:27 bigbob sweet I am finally updating
03:27 CEnnis91 bigbob: well good thing i didnt waste my time =)
03:27 bigbob lol
03:28 Quietlyawesome94 lol I saw that WIFI kill works on this
03:29 Quietlyawesome94 would be hilarious in a starbucks
03:29 bigbob CEnnis91:  will root tools make the proper backup for me that I can use in case I screw up or do I need to pull stuff from the device first?
03:29 CEnnis91 lol no, make your own backups
03:29 CEnnis91 but i made a return to 5.6.0 stock thats available
03:30 bigbob lol....alright I guess it time to start doing more reading
03:30 CEnnis91 different thread
03:30 CEnnis91 http://forum.xda-developers.​com/showthread.php?t=1534073
03:31 bigbob Thanks for the help, I will check that out now
03:31 ds2 did I see somewhere in the log that people are poking at the msp430 for sensor access?
03:32 CEnnis91 ds2: [mbm] and dproldan were doing something with it, i wasnt around enough to see
03:33 ds2 oh nice
03:34 Quietlyawesome94 heh I wonder if XDA would give you guys your own forum
03:34 lownox CEnnis91 yes I returned to stock from being rooted
03:35 CEnnis91 did you wipe data?
03:35 CEnnis91 lownox:
03:36 lownox don't think so
03:36 CEnnis91 thats why
03:36 lownox ok... I will flash again and wipe data/factory reset before returning to stock
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03:40 Quietlyawesome94 Just noticed you said in that thread you would get one at the end of the month CEnnis91
03:40 Quietlyawesome94 ya got one yet?
03:40 CEnnis91 almost
03:40 CEnnis91 we had more delays then expected
03:40 [mbm] lo
03:40 Quietlyawesome94 I'm trying to convince my mom to get a 200$ toy :P
03:40 CEnnis91 im not buying one, we're passing one around
03:41 [mbm] lownox: stuck in adb mode??
03:41 CEnnis91 [mbm]: eys
03:41 Quietlyawesome94 I can get one if anyone wants to buy a HP Touchpad :P
03:41 CEnnis91 i need to fix thta
03:41 CEnnis91 for the return to stock zip
03:41 [mbm] am start -a com.android.settings.APPLIC​ATION_DEVELOPMENT_SETTINGS
03:41 [mbm] then uncheck adb
03:41 ds2 HP touchpad for sub $100?
03:41 CEnnis91 lownox: ^
03:41 [mbm] no need to wipe
03:42 Quietlyawesome94 lol no
03:42 Quietlyawesome94 its a 32GB
03:42 Quietlyawesome94 $150-200
03:42 ds2 so $100 flat? :)
03:43 bigbob hell I got a 32gb touch pad I will sell for $100
03:43 Quietlyawesome94 well its my sisters...
03:43 Quietlyawesome94 shes been wanting to sell it
03:43 Quietlyawesome94 they got all jelly when I got one and put cm7 on it. they didn't like it when they got it.
03:44 CEnnis91 [mbm]: uncheck adb does what?
03:44 Quietlyawesome94 I am way into the TP community. even have my own channel :P
03:44 CEnnis91 [mbm]: stops the service? or disables adb
03:44 Quietlyawesome94 #touchpad-gaming ... come on by bigbob :P
03:44 ds2 bigbob: what is wrong with it?
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03:45 [mbm] CEnnis91: both; technically it's a setprop persist... which rites to /data/propery and the hook in the init.rc kills adbd at the same time
03:45 Quietlyawesome94 ooh anyone tried an IRC client on their motoactv?
03:45 CEnnis91 [mbm]: so...cant that enable adb on any device...
03:45 bigbob absolutely nothing..
03:45 CEnnis91 i thought you could am without root
03:45 ds2 why are you selling it?
03:45 [mbm] you can't use "stop adbd" as the shell user
03:46 bigbob I want to get my 5yr old son a 7 inch tablet, so I have to part with someting
03:46 ds2 I see... is this native webos or android flashed?
03:46 Quietlyawesome94 buy it ds2! we can be touchpad buddies :P #cyanogenmod-touchpad and #touchpad-gaming are awesome.
03:46 bigbob I did have CM9, but since I was going to get rid of it, I used webos doctor to put it back to stock
03:46 [mbm] CEnnis91: yeah, if you can get the property set you can enable adb on pretty much any device; that's the reason hy going back to stock doesn't disable adb, property is still set by /data/property/
03:47 [mbm] great, this place has become #touchpad :P
03:48 Quietlyawesome94 heh 2 hybrid devices
03:48 CEnnis91 sup Bdaman80-Iconia
03:48 Quietlyawesome94 awesome
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03:54 Bdaman80-Iconia Hey cennis.  I happen to have a little bit of free time and am working on some rom stuff for clear
03:54 CEnnis91 like what
03:56 Bdaman80-Iconia Setting up to add launcher after first run.  And more
03:56 CEnnis91 the launcher im not gonna bother with until i get the device
03:56 CEnnis91 so you're on your own there =)
03:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: random question, you know what /sdcard/DCIM/100ANDRO is used for?
03:58 CEnnis91 is that just to define that android is using it?
03:59 Bdaman80-Iconia Not sure why actv would have it.
03:59 CEnnis91 not for the actv =P
04:00 Bdaman80-Iconia Sorry, must have missed that part of conversation
04:02 Bdaman80-Iconia Anybody know how to get updater script to unzip .gz file and then zip back up later.
04:03 CEnnis91 just have it run a program
04:03 CEnnis91 wow
04:03 CEnnis91 sorry Quietlyawesome94
04:03 CEnnis91 or run a script
04:04 [mbm] CEnnis91: on the motoactv? nothing.
04:04 CEnnis91 [mbm]: on my galaxy nexus
04:04 [mbm] it's a placeholder for the camera app
04:04 CEnnis91 thought so
04:04 [mbm] camera photos then
04:04 Quietlyawesome94 oh
04:04 Quietlyawesome94 :P
04:06 lownox bummer... now I get device serial number unknown.  can anyone save my butt again.  LOL
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04:12 Bdaman80-Iconia That problem solved .  My gzip file was corrupt or something
04:16 bigbob Can some one pm me the adb commands so that I can pull what ever .img files I need for a later restore in case I screw up.....or should I just keep reading
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04:23 Quietlyawesome94 bigbob: using Firefox?
04:24 Quietlyawesome94 search for Chatzilla in add-ons
04:24 bigbob Chrome
04:24 Quietlyawesome94 nice IRC Client
04:24 bigbob ill check it out....Thanks
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04:34 lownox got it.  Thanks for the help everyone.
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06:18 dproldan nobel prize? :-)
06:19 [mbm] sup?
06:20 RussellAlan hello hello
06:21 dproldan the factory cable is made soldering 5 volts to the ID pin, right?
06:21 dproldan id pin is right next to the ground pin...
06:22 dproldan what could ever be wrong?
06:23 [mbm] http://newworld2.net/pdls/olyphotos/FAC_CAB.jpg
06:23 [mbm] and yeah, ID is next to ground
06:24 [mbm] why, did you short out your usb port?
06:25 dproldan no,  yesterday I run out of battery,  I can't flash a working system back
06:25 dproldan I have to make a factory cable
06:25 dproldan looks like the recovery mode also drains the battery
06:29 [mbm] it does
06:30 RussellAlan this the latest recovery http://rootzwiki.com/topic/17022-rec​overy-cwmr-5028-for-moto-f100motoact​v-beta/page__pid__439881#entry439881 ?
06:30 RussellAlan dproldan: i need to make a factory cable although i think i might buy one.
06:31 dproldan also have the battery problem
06:31 dproldan ?
06:33 dproldan [mbm] with the recovery i used yesterday,  In the "choose a zip" screen,  I couldn't scroll past the first three zips I had in my sdcard
06:33 dproldan I tried to delete them from the shell,  but the "choose zip" screen would update
06:34 dproldan wouldn't update
06:35 dproldan RussellAlan: the are some other versions,  but not released yet
06:35 [mbm] oh, dunno, didn't write the recovery
06:35 dproldan ok,  no
06:35 dproldan not a big problem
06:35 [mbm] RussellAlan: yeah, team blackhat sells the cables
06:35 dproldan 40 US$
06:37 RussellAlan really?
06:37 RussellAlan what about some good ol
06:37 RussellAlan what about some good ol' RBK
06:39 RussellAlan where can I find a good dev forum for the actv? im looking for a rom.
06:42 dproldan there's only xda-developers at the moment,  and the wiki
06:42 dproldan the only released ROMS are in the wiki
06:43 dproldan http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/
06:43 RussellAlan thanks, started off at the wiki then migrated =D live in Texas and DFW and man, did we take a beating
06:43 [mbm] There's also my notes at http://ec2.opticaldelusion.org/wiki/Motoactv
06:44 RussellAlan thank you [mbm]
06:44 dproldan nice
06:51 [mbm] note that I'm far more interested in stock/technical documentation than custom roms and theming
07:00 RussellAlan [mbm]: so do you reccomend that I just take it to the root stock 5.6* and sideload the working applications to it?
07:02 [mbm] that works.
07:04 RussellAlan it works?
07:04 RussellAlan what else works?
07:07 [mbm] I suppose it's possible that you could install a completely custom rom, new launcher or marketplace
07:07 [mbm] however I don't know that anyone has gotten around to doing any of that, or at least documenting it in some annoyingly long xda post
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07:07 [mbm] although some of it is in progress
07:08 RussellAlan right, although the only customization is launcher and amazon
07:08 RussellAlan so no, "tweaks"
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07:11 [mbm] there was some work on getting the google market installed via the cm gapps packages
07:12 [mbm] although honestly I wonder how much of stock android is useful on such a tiny screen
07:15 dproldan surprisingly usable,  things are scaling quite well
07:16 RussellAlan so, if i install the gapps, basically, it will be easier for me to install the other apps?
07:16 dproldan Gmail is incredibly very usable
07:16 RussellAlan anyone have a backup of the free files
07:16 dproldan no,  actually when you install gapps
07:16 dproldan you'll get a ton of force closes,
07:16 RussellAlan right
07:17 RussellAlan so just sideload all the way?
07:17 dproldan some gaps work,  but you get frameworks errors aplenty
07:17 dproldan if you don't need gapps...
07:20 JohnDoe_ If you have Goodle Music installed you'll have to reinstall it after you flash to 'fix' it...
07:21 JohnDoe_ I can confirm that version 3.0 does not check location (for those outside of USA) 4.1.513 and 4.1.512 call home and wont let you relaunch
07:22 RussellAlan John, 3.0 works?
07:24 JohnDoe_ 3.0 works well, no crashing or FCs after reinstalling after the zip flash
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07:29 JohnDoe_ Music 3.0: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/65525444​/com.google.android.music-1.apk
07:31 [mbm] why the reinstall?
07:31 RussellAlan brb
07:31 JohnDoe_ Music crashes when you install the Goo.inside.me zip, uninstall then reinstall and no more crashing
07:41 [mbm] weird
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07:41 RussellAlan bah
07:42 RussellAlan how do I turn debugging on? there is no applications.
07:45 RussellAlan anyone help? flashed 5.6 and not sure how to turn debugging on.
07:46 [mbm] debugging?
07:46 [mbm] you mean adb?
07:46 RussellAlan usb debugging mode
07:46 RussellAlan adb
07:46 [mbm] flash the rooted boot image
07:46 RussellAlan i flashed the rooted rom
07:47 RussellAlan will the boot image return to the prior?
07:47 [mbm] then you should have adb
07:47 RussellAlan flashed the rooted rom, although all is stock.
07:48 [mbm] http://ec2.opticaldelusion.org/wiki/Motoactv#Boot
07:48 [mbm] the only change to the rooted boot image is that it enabled adb
07:49 RussellAlan understood
07:50 RussellAlan thanks for everyones assistance.
07:50 [mbm] fixed now?
07:57 [mbm] guess so
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08:32 dproldan what is init_prep_keypad.sh doing?  using sholes keypad if a specific one is not found?
08:45 [mbm] it's looking for a name in the devtree and defaulting back to sholes
08:45 [mbm] so, yeah
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10:49 dproldan back on the road,  factory cable working!
11:51 JohnDoe_ Anyone have an idea on the ServicesFramework FCs or having Contacts on the device?
12:09 [mbm] JohnDoe_: simple, look at logcat, there will be a java backtrace complaining of some unknown piece of the framework
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13:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: the keys seem to not work when it doesnt properly symlink sholes keypad
13:59 dproldan woot,  I have a log cat running,  still doesn't boot correctly,  but at least I can try to debug it
14:09 CEnnis91 "Technically, both the 8G and 16G are identical apart from the size of the flash chip, and both run identical firmware. However, Motorola compiles the firmware individually for each device, resulting in minor changes to the binaries (mostly timestamps) and a minor bump in the version number." -- [mbm] earlier versions they were actually different, the sizes were not the same but i doubt thats impo
14:09 CEnnis91 rtant
14:09 CEnnis91 important
14:11 CEnnis91 ...It is not rooted in the xda sense,... hahahahahaha
14:14 [mbm] heh
14:19 [mbm] CEnnis91: well, the sha1/md5s of the 8g and 16g firmware differs, but I have yet to see any evidence that there's difference beyond recompiling
14:20 CEnnis91 in earlier versions the sizes were different
14:20 [mbm] interesting
14:26 CEnnis91 i think 5.6.0 was  went they were actually merged
14:27 CEnnis91 no, 4.55.97 was
14:28 CEnnis91 apply_patch("MTD:boot:2955264:a534c0e0e8c​c8c28aa796c013a5ce045a10c2db1:2957312:7c1​47eda886d8883851160cd0627f96ad635be9b",
14:28 CEnnis91 "-", 7c147eda886d8883851160cd0627f96ad635be9b, 2957312,
14:28 CEnnis91 a534c0e0e8cc8c28aa796c013a5ce045a10c2db1, package_extract_file("patch/boot.img.p"));
14:28 CEnnis91 apply_patch("MTD:boot:2957312:bdf23d8737e​235a6bd38ab017d2a39baf678f74a:2957312:10b​589849c672eff76d2991fe796c23af7fc850f",
14:28 CEnnis91 "-", 10b589849c672eff76d2991fe796c23af7fc850f, 2957312,
14:28 CEnnis91 bdf23d8737e235a6bd38ab017d2a39baf678f74a, package_extract_file("patch/boot.img.p"));
14:29 [mbm] btw, moto has added two new motoactv models
14:29 [mbm] "golf edition" and "multi-sport edition"
14:29 CEnnis91 8gb/16gb golf version?
14:29 CEnnis91 oh?
14:29 [mbm] likely to be 16g with just some sort of firmware tweak
14:30 [mbm] although the multisport sells for $399, so I'd hope it's something more than a software tweak
14:30 CEnnis91 maybe i should request getting the multisport ;)
14:31 CEnnis91 [mbm]: in those apply_patches above that is 8gb and 16gb respectively
14:31 CEnnis91 so it appears they were merged into the same boot.img at 4.55.97
14:34 [mbm] hmm
14:34 [mbm] wonder how they differed before
14:34 CEnnis91 unsure
14:35 CEnnis91 maybe they just truncated the one?
14:35 CEnnis91 but i doubt that
14:36 [mbm] also I can't find any reference to what the multisport one is apart from it appearing on the motorola order page
14:38 CEnnis91 [mbm]: http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/​US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Service​s/MOTOACTV/MOTOACTV/MOTOACTV-US-EN
14:38 CEnnis91 MOTOACTV MULTI-SPORT EDITION: HIT THE ROAD JACK
14:38 CEnnis91 looks like it's just extra sensors package
14:39 [mbm] ah
14:40 CEnnis91 i wonder if golf editions is just a firmware bump
14:40 [mbm] lol, it's an 8g
14:40 CEnnis91 yea
14:40 [mbm] golf? you bet.
14:40 CEnnis91 16gb firmware bump
14:40 CEnnis91 is it really?!
14:40 CEnnis91 thats fucking horrible
14:41 [mbm] you can get golf for free for the next week or two and then they're going to start charging for it
14:41 CEnnis91 april 16
14:41 [mbm] right
14:41 CEnnis91 any chance you can just pull the files for nj for me?
14:41 CEnnis91 in case i dont get this thing in time
14:42 [mbm] you golf?
14:42 CEnnis91 nope
14:43 CEnnis91 lol, wanna see how it is
14:44 [mbm] well, doesn't do a thing until the gps says you've actually set foot on a golf course
14:44 CEnnis91 hmmm interesting
14:44 CEnnis91 and we both know you can spoof gps
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14:58 [mbm] screen on these things is interesting; in bright light it tends to become a greyscale
14:59 [mbm] perfectly readable though
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18:45 [mbm] anyone know who makes the screen on the motoactv?
18:45 [mbm] it's not a normal lcd; it's highly reflective
18:47 [mbm] motorola mention it in the specs as automatically switching to black and white mode
18:48 [mbm] although from what I can tell, it's not exactly a mode, it's just that reflected light from the screen is greyscale
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19:01 dproldan is there any way to avoid these errors:
19:01 dproldan blk: partition "system" size 163840000 not a multiple of io_buffer_size 524288
19:01 dproldan maybe something like this:  BOARD_FLASH_BLOCK_SIZE := 131072?
19:01 [mbm] context?
19:01 dproldan oh, that's the recovery log
19:02 [mbm] oh, think I've seen that even in stock recovery
19:02 dproldan yes they're there too
19:05 dproldan CM7 for Milestone has that line BOARD_FLASH_BLOCK_SIZE := 131072 in the BoardConfig.mk
19:05 dproldan wondering if it's related
19:06 [mbm] well, when dealing directly with the mtd layer you need to know the smallest erasable size on the flash
19:06 [mbm] which on most devices is 128k (the BOARD_FLASH_BLOCK_SIZE above)
19:08 [mbm] think I've mentioned it here before, but on flash chips you erase a whole page/block to 0xff and then set the 0's
19:08 dproldan yes,  I know about that
19:08 [mbm] so you want to arrange your data in units of the erase block size
19:09 [mbm] I'd be surprised if that issue came up on an eMMC, it still exists, but I'd expect the lowlevel details to be hidden by the controller
19:15 [mbm] how's the cm port going?
19:54 dproldan I got it to mount /system,  logcat running,  now I'm looking at init.rc,  to see what's really needed, etc  just learning...
19:55 dproldan I got several library missing errors, kept added those libraries,  until a stranger error appeared,  couldn't debug it
19:57 CEnnis91 what did you base your board config on
19:59 dproldan moto shadow,  but I'm using some bits from milestone
20:10 dproldan [mbm] : is this right then?  TARGET_BOOTLOADER_BOARD_NAME := umts_sholes
20:16 [mbm] sounds about right but I can't remember the exact punctuation
20:16 [mbm] fastboot getvar product
20:16 [mbm] ^ command to read it
20:17 utkanos thats right dproldan
20:17 utkanos your syntax
20:17 utkanos dunno about umts_sholes though
20:19 dproldan ok,,
20:19 dproldan MacBook-Pro-de-Daniel:MotoACTV dproldan$ fastboot getvar product
20:19 dproldan product: UMTS-Sholes
20:19 dproldan finished. total time: 0.000s
20:23 [mbm] there's your answer
20:25 utkanos I named it F100
20:25 utkanos in my boardconfig, you can change that
20:25 utkanos thats what the board is called in build.prop
20:25 utkanos considering it's retarded to call that device UMTS_sholes heh
20:26 utkanos but if thats what its called from the fastboot command, thats what it's called.
20:26 dproldan I'm trying to do things by the book
20:27 dproldan The board name is actually G2,  if I'm not mistaken
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20:51 [mbm] lol
20:52 [mbm] everywhere you look you get a different name
20:52 [mbm] all of the updates call it a F100
20:52 utkanos yeah
20:52 utkanos and g2 is already a taken name
20:53 [mbm] and "sholes" is the droid1
20:55 utkanos yep
20:55 utkanos exactly
21:16 dproldan everything looks like it's been hacked together by an xda "cook"
21:16 dproldan in init.rc:
21:16 dproldan # mount mtd partitions
21:16 dproldan # Mount /system rw first to give the filesystem a chance to save a checkpoint
21:16 dproldan mount yaffs2 mtd@system /system
21:16 dproldan mount ext3 mmc@system /system noatime nodiratime barrier=1
21:16 dproldan mount yaffs2 mtd@userdata /data nosuid nodev
21:16 dproldan exec /system/bin/logwrapper /system/bin/mount_ext3.sh userdata /data
21:16 dproldan mount yaffs2 mtd@cache /cache nosuid nodev
21:16 dproldan exec /system/bin/logwrapper /system/bin/mount_ext3.sh cache /cache
21:16 dproldan exec /system/bin/logwrapper /system/bin/check_sdc.sh
21:16 dproldan does it try yaffs2 for system first?  then ext3?
21:20 utkanos haha yeah
21:20 utkanos that's moto's shit
21:20 utkanos no they're lazy as shit
21:21 dproldan what about this:
21:21 utkanos and just left in code that doesn't pertain to this device
21:21 dproldan service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild
21:21 dproldan class pre-zygote_services
21:21 dproldan socket rild stream 660 root radio
21:21 dproldan socket rild-debug stream 660 radio system
21:21 dproldan user root
21:21 dproldan group radio cache inet misc audio sdcard_rw system mot_secclkd mot_accy
21:21 utkanos again not used on this device
21:21 utkanos just left over from the copypasta job they did
21:29 dproldan ueventd.rc is the worst
21:29 [mbm] dproldan: yeah, that's just being lazy and trying everything, makes sense from a code management perspective that they don't need an init.rc per device
21:30 [mbm] moto seems to nuild everything from the same tree
21:30 [mbm] *build
21:30 utkanos yeah its not even just moto
21:30 dproldan I can see the convenience in that
21:30 utkanos samsung is 100x worse
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22:31 dproldan with cyanogenmod,  all that "just copy a similar product and work it out"  is contributing to the same mess
22:32 dproldan I haven't been able to find even one guide to start a new product for CM
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23:12 dproldan christefano,  did you receive those speaker/mic capsules?
23:31 christefano dproldan: not yet. I got the ones with the speaker but not the combo ones yet
23:45 dproldan is it small enough?
23:46 dproldan I¡m thinking about building just a jack with a SMD microphone,  to solve the "data input problem"
23:53 [mbm] dproldan: that's one thing I hate about cm, well that and this blind fath everyone seems to have in it

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