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jyx |
mbm? |
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jyx |
you there? |
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jyx |
ilbot was offline, if you replied to my messages please repeat them |
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[mbm] |
some people are absolutely incapable of doing anything without spamming others :/ |
| 02:36 |
* CEnnis91 |
wonders if jyx knows about the logger |
| 02:38 |
[mbm] |
did you get the repack stuff working? |
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CEnnis91 |
havent flashed it yet |
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ds2 |
[mbm]: ping? |
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[mbm] |
. |
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| 06:19 |
ds2 |
[mbm]: how sure are you that a home key will solve the launcher switching problem? |
| 06:20 |
dproldan |
is it still a problem? really? |
| 06:20 |
CEnnis91 |
launcher switching problem? |
| 06:20 |
CEnnis91 |
you would need to not set it as default |
| 06:20 |
ds2 |
yes it is unless there is an alt |
| 06:20 |
ds2 |
no no |
| 06:20 |
ds2 |
I want access to the Moto programs |
| 06:20 |
ds2 |
but I have no way to return from them |
| 06:21 |
dproldan |
install a program like button savior |
| 06:21 |
CEnnis91 |
i really need to get started on that rom |
| 06:21 |
CEnnis91 |
and end all these silly questions |
| 06:21 |
dproldan |
it's a soft home button |
| 06:21 |
CEnnis91 |
=P |
| 06:21 |
ds2 |
button savior? |
| 06:21 |
CEnnis91 |
schools over now so i should have sufficient time |
| 06:21 |
dproldan |
yes, or swype pad, or several opthers |
| 06:21 |
ds2 |
if a home button will solve the issue, I can implement a home button when music+start is chorded |
| 06:21 |
[mbm] |
lol, soft buttons on an already tiny screen |
| 06:22 |
ds2 |
wanted to find out if that really solves the issue before I go down that route |
| 06:22 |
dproldan |
they autohide |
| 06:23 |
dproldan |
i'm not going to make a video for you guys, if you want to resolve the "problem", install it and configure it to your liking |
| 06:23 |
dproldan |
it works perfectly |
| 06:23 |
* CEnnis91 |
refrains from any comments, ive already discussed my opinion with dproldan on this |
| 06:23 |
CEnnis91 |
=P |
| 06:24 |
[mbm] |
btw, anyone else finding the back button extremely hard to hit? can't remember if it's always been that annoying or if I broke it playing with some setting |
| 06:24 |
ds2 |
soft buttons is not really a solution |
| 06:24 |
ds2 |
I much rather write the code for chording if all it needs is a real home key event |
| 06:24 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: i mentioned it being a pita to hit a while back, you disagreed at that point |
| 06:24 |
CEnnis91 |
but it was a little different |
| 06:24 |
[mbm] |
oh, shrug |
| 06:25 |
CEnnis91 |
it was too sensitive |
| 06:25 |
ds2 |
videos get ignored anyways. any useful info is written not in a video |
| 06:25 |
CEnnis91 |
your issue appears, not sensitive enough? |
| 06:25 |
CEnnis91 |
ds2: dont fool yourself, written information is overlooked as well |
| 06:25 |
[mbm] |
I pretty much need to press the bottom corner of the screen and 50% of the time it selects stuff from the screen |
| 06:25 |
ds2 |
right now the Zaem launcher + a time widget gets me the time functionality and access to my apps. just need access to the stock stuff and I think I have what I need |
| 06:25 |
ds2 |
CEnnis91: I am not wasting my time chasing videos |
| 06:26 |
CEnnis91 |
ds2: yea i have a key mod that will fix that |
| 06:26 |
CEnnis91 |
when i get around to it |
| 06:26 |
dproldan |
well, looks like you want to have FITNESS, MUSIC, HOME, MENU, VOL +, VOL -, POWER |
| 06:26 |
* CEnnis91 |
doesnt know why he keeps talking about it, he hasnt ACTUALLY tested it on this device yet |
| 06:26 |
dproldan |
but this only has 5 button |
| 06:26 |
CEnnis91 |
power+fitness power+music |
| 06:27 |
ds2 |
CEnnis91: you are doing the keymap file mod right? |
| 06:27 |
CEnnis91 |
this mod doesnt touch that keymap file |
| 06:27 |
CEnnis91 |
its in init.rc |
| 06:27 |
CEnnis91 |
so the boot.img |
| 06:27 |
ds2 |
CEnnis91: do you support chording or? |
| 06:27 |
CEnnis91 |
huh? |
| 06:28 |
ds2 |
otherwise you are giving up buttons |
| 06:28 |
[mbm] |
CEnnis91: are you just firing off intents in response to keycodes or are you triggering virtual keycodes? |
| 06:28 |
CEnnis91 |
the keycodes will link to a script that fires the intent |
| 06:28 |
[mbm] |
figured |
| 06:29 |
CEnnis91 |
best way to handle the lack of keys imo |
| 06:29 |
ds2 |
hmmm |
| 06:29 |
CEnnis91 |
least space, simple, and actually configurable to a point |
| 06:29 |
[mbm] |
dunno how that works when an app requires a key though |
| 06:30 |
dproldan |
it doesn't... |
| 06:30 |
ds2 |
so 'am ...' in response to a key |
| 06:30 |
CEnnis91 |
huh? |
| 06:30 |
CEnnis91 |
yes |
| 06:30 |
CEnnis91 |
but first you DO need the modded keymap |
| 06:30 |
dproldan |
just make a bugtogo.sh, change the keycodes in init.rc |
| 06:30 |
dproldan |
it doesn't work |
| 06:30 |
CEnnis91 |
no? |
| 06:30 |
dproldan |
nope |
| 06:31 |
CEnnis91 |
*sigh* i guess i better see if i can test this now |
| 06:31 |
ds2 |
a simple C program is much easier |
| 06:31 |
CEnnis91 |
ill have to finish with gimp later |
| 06:31 |
[mbm] |
should be able to fire of something like am start -n ... |
| 06:33 |
* [mbm] |
knows that at the very least you can fire off intents to get back to the home selection screen |
| 06:33 |
CEnnis91 |
ugh im in windows this is gonna be a pita |
| 06:34 |
ds2 |
[mbm]: know what the am start... line would be? |
| 06:34 |
ds2 |
easy enough to watch for buttons from a C program and run that |
| 06:35 |
[mbm] |
not off the top of my head, but you can always try with am start -n android.intent.action.MAIN |
| 06:36 |
CEnnis91 |
wtf why are you connecting to mass storage right away |
| 06:37 |
[mbm] |
reminds me, found a set of props once that bypassed the motorola usb control and suddenly there was the android character with the usb symbol on the arm when I connected usb |
| 06:37 |
ds2 |
problem is I donno what the launcher is called |
| 06:37 |
CEnnis91 |
com.android.launcher |
| 06:37 |
ds2 |
is that always the name of the launcher? |
| 06:37 |
CEnnis91 |
usually |
| 06:37 |
CEnnis91 |
most oems dont change it |
| 06:37 |
ds2 |
Oh okay |
| 06:37 |
[mbm] |
probably best not to hardcode a specific apk and instead just fire off a generic intent |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
^ |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
or |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
have it read a text file |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
or something |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
to configure it |
| 06:38 |
CEnnis91 |
ugh i guess im going into linux |
| 06:38 |
[mbm] |
Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.HOME] flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.motorola.blur.home/.HomeActivity } |
| 06:38 |
ds2 |
i just want a specific hack to solve a problem |
| 06:39 |
ds2 |
want to spend more time figuring out a suitable mapping/gps app |
| 06:40 |
[mbm] |
simple way for figuring out the intents is to just look at logcat as you do things |
| 06:40 |
ds2 |
intents firing off always gets logged there? |
| 06:43 |
[mbm] |
yep |
| 06:43 |
ds2 |
nifty |
| 06:43 |
[mbm] |
still upset that we can't just add more capacitive keys like the back button |
| 06:44 |
ds2 |
ITO is expensive |
| 06:47 |
CEnnis91 |
wtf |
| 06:47 |
CEnnis91 |
my old boot.img doesnt root it? |
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| 06:51 |
CEnnis91 |
dproldan: do you have the keymap mod |
| 06:52 |
dproldan |
? you only have to change keymap.kl |
| 06:52 |
CEnnis91 |
yea i dont know the values |
| 06:52 |
dproldan |
key 220 FITNESS WAKE_DROPPED |
| 06:52 |
dproldan |
key 226 HEADSETHOOK WAKE |
| 06:52 |
dproldan |
key 387 MEDIA WAKE_DROPPED |
| 06:53 |
CEnnis91 |
thank you |
| 06:53 |
dproldan |
chnage key 220 to HOME |
| 06:53 |
CEnnis91 |
yep |
| 06:53 |
CEnnis91 |
and media to menu |
| 06:53 |
dproldan |
key 397 to MENU |
| 06:53 |
CEnnis91 |
had to put this thing back into 5.6.0 for the 8gb |
| 06:54 |
CEnnis91 |
this device is so fucking confused cuz i flash so much crap on it |
| 06:54 |
CEnnis91 |
okay wtf |
| 06:55 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: this thing wont let me go into adb |
| 06:55 |
[mbm] |
flash one of my boot images? |
| 06:55 |
CEnnis91 |
i flashed the rooted update.zip that i made |
| 06:55 |
CEnnis91 |
i know it works |
| 06:56 |
CEnnis91 |
gonna try one more thing |
| 06:56 |
CEnnis91 |
might be a setting i put in |
| 06:56 |
CEnnis91 |
so im gonna wipe it |
| 06:59 |
CEnnis91 |
any day now.. |
| 06:59 |
CEnnis91 |
there we go |
| 07:00 |
CEnnis91 |
guess i did something funky last time i used it |
| 07:15 |
CEnnis91 |
dproldan: alright testing this out now |
| 07:15 |
CEnnis91 |
with a simple addition |
| 07:15 |
CEnnis91 |
i dont exactly trust bugtogo.sh |
| 07:17 |
CEnnis91 |
hrm |
| 07:20 |
CEnnis91 |
ugh fuck you moto |
| 07:20 |
CEnnis91 |
dproldan: i guess ill have to rethink this then |
| 07:23 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: what would be the best place to read keycodes |
| 07:23 |
CEnnis91 |
logcat didnt really show much |
| 07:25 |
[mbm] |
you can see them with getevent |
| 07:26 |
CEnnis91 |
oh neat |
| 07:27 |
CEnnis91 |
so is ds2's method of C the next best thing really? |
| 07:27 |
CEnnis91 |
or is the polling going to kill battery |
| 07:28 |
[mbm] |
the init.rc trick didn't work? |
| 07:28 |
CEnnis91 |
doesnt appear to |
| 07:29 |
CEnnis91 |
no service is even fired from it |
| 07:29 |
[mbm] |
:/ |
| 07:29 |
[mbm] |
init problem? |
| 07:30 |
[mbm] |
I eman, we could recompile init |
| 07:30 |
CEnnis91 |
random url found in getprop: [persist.g2.golf.course_url]: [http://download-cloud1-krusty.blurdev.com] |
| 07:30 |
CEnnis91 |
not sure if its an init |
| 07:30 |
CEnnis91 |
problem |
| 07:30 |
[mbm] |
yeah, servers are named after the simpsons |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
service restartme /system/bin/reboot |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
oneshot |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
disabled |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
keycodes 107 387 |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
thats what i added btw |
| 07:31 |
CEnnis91 |
so theres no way that can be messed up =P |
| 07:31 |
[mbm] |
try it with a single keycode to see if it's an issue with multiple keys? |
| 07:32 |
CEnnis91 |
and run them through a script to see if both are pressed at the same time? |
| 07:34 |
[mbm] |
well, mostly just want to know if the keycodes function in init.rc works at all |
| 07:35 |
CEnnis91 |
rebooting with it in now |
| 07:35 |
CEnnis91 |
oh hey it worked |
| 07:35 |
CEnnis91 |
using the music key |
| 07:36 |
[mbm] |
hmm, so it just can't handle multiple keys? |
| 07:36 |
CEnnis91 |
interesting |
| 07:36 |
CEnnis91 |
i just noticed POWER has two keycoes |
| 07:36 |
CEnnis91 |
one with a WAKE and one with a WAKE_DROPPED |
| 07:38 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: so what does this mean that single keys work |
| 07:39 |
CEnnis91 |
trying a keycode without the power key as well btw |
| 07:39 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: start+music seem to work |
| 07:39 |
CEnnis91 |
but i was lazy and also made that reboot |
| 07:40 |
CEnnis91 |
actually nvm i wasnt that dumb |
| 07:40 |
CEnnis91 |
start+music work |
| 07:40 |
CEnnis91 |
so its the power key |
| 07:41 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: worst case i can make it double tap to open the app lol |
| 07:43 |
CEnnis91 |
strange |
| 07:43 |
CEnnis91 |
vol up+ menu works |
| 07:44 |
CEnnis91 |
but vol up + vol down doesnt |
| 07:44 |
CEnnis91 |
ds2: there still might be hope for my plan |
| 07:46 |
[mbm] |
isn't vol+ and vol- already used for bugtogo or something? |
| 07:46 |
CEnnis91 |
yea, but that never seems to get fired |
| 07:46 |
CEnnis91 |
service, or script |
| 07:46 |
[mbm] |
could be a hardware limitation of how they keys are sensed |
| 07:47 |
CEnnis91 |
possibly |
| 07:47 |
CEnnis91 |
but there are still keycodes that work |
| 07:47 |
CEnnis91 |
just not power |
| 07:47 |
CEnnis91 |
[mbm]: so what would work simpler user wise, a double tap? or media+vol key? |
| 07:50 |
[mbm] |
aren't there already doubletap hotkeys for things like start and media? |
| 07:50 |
CEnnis91 |
dont think so |
| 07:50 |
[mbm] |
I mean stock |
| 07:51 |
[mbm] |
thought double tapping media skipped to the next track |
| 07:51 |
[mbm] |
and there was some quickstart thing with the start button |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
hrm guess so |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
wtf moto triple pressing? |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
Press=Play/pause |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
Double press=Next song |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
Triple press=Previous song |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
Press & hold=Return to music |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
thats on media |
| 07:51 |
CEnnis91 |
i guess media/start+vol key it is |
| 07:51 |
[mbm] |
triple? damn. |
| 07:52 |
[mbm] |
use one vol key as home and the other as menu? |
| 07:52 |
CEnnis91 |
dont think the media controls work with the modded keymap |
| 07:52 |
CEnnis91 |
and loss volume control? lol |
| 07:52 |
CEnnis91 |
lose* |
| 07:53 |
[mbm] |
well, I mean something+vol- something+vol+ |
| 07:53 |
CEnnis91 |
possibly |
| 07:53 |
CEnnis91 |
does play/pause have intents? |
| 07:53 |
CEnnis91 |
well yea |
| 07:54 |
CEnnis91 |
do they have intents i can call? |
| 07:54 |
[mbm] |
probably, but I don't see why you modded tke keymap |
| 07:54 |
CEnnis91 |
some things NEED the menu/home |
| 07:55 |
CEnnis91 |
and right now thats the best way to get them |
| 07:55 |
[mbm] |
:/ |
| 07:55 |
CEnnis91 |
might reverse it to make home/menu the keycodes |
| 07:55 |
CEnnis91 |
i guess it depends on the persons usage |
| 07:56 |
[mbm] |
it's a shame that we can't do this in the kernel |
| 07:56 |
CEnnis91 |
may have to make it smart and detect what the person wants |
| 07:56 |
[mbm] |
and by we I mean jyx |
| 07:56 |
CEnnis91 |
hehe |
| 07:57 |
CEnnis91 |
to get the most functionality, it would probably be keep the keymap stock, and add in home/menu |
| 07:57 |
CEnnis91 |
but realistically, most ppl are going to want the opposite |
| 07:58 |
CEnnis91 |
actually |
| 07:58 |
CEnnis91 |
theres no way to call menu from intents is there? |
| 07:58 |
CEnnis91 |
home, yes, but i dont know of anyway to get menu |
| 07:58 |
[mbm] |
never looked |
| 07:59 |
[mbm] |
need to get moto to release the later kernels with the wake functionality |
| 07:59 |
CEnnis91 |
yep, good luck with that |
| 08:02 |
CEnnis91 |
meh 4am, guess ill deal with this in the morning |
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| 10:32 |
jyx |
hi |
| 10:32 |
dproldan |
lo |
| 10:32 |
jyx |
yo |
| 10:32 |
dproldan |
sup |
| 10:32 |
jyx |
lulz |
| 10:33 |
dproldan |
:-) |
| 10:33 |
jyx |
xD |
| 10:33 |
dproldan |
so, you were able to modify devtree? |
| 10:33 |
jyx |
dproland yesterday i managed to modify and flash new devtree |
| 10:33 |
dproldan |
great |
| 10:33 |
jyx |
but no changes lol |
| 10:34 |
dproldan |
even for games? |
| 10:34 |
jyx |
anything |
| 10:34 |
jyx |
i tested the accel output with androidsensor |
| 10:34 |
jyx |
is the same as stock, i tried to change lot of combinations pf attributes |
| 10:34 |
jyx |
i dunno |
| 10:35 |
jyx |
mau |
| 10:35 |
jyx |
maybe the kernel ignores that config |
| 10:36 |
dproldan |
pity |
| 10:40 |
dproldan |
other approach is modifiyng the stock launcher |
| 10:40 |
jyx |
why the launcher? |
| 10:41 |
dproldan |
i suppose that's where the rotation is |
| 10:41 |
dproldan |
or is it in a library? |
| 10:42 |
jyx |
dunno where rotation is managed |
| 10:42 |
jyx |
actally |
| 10:42 |
jyx |
xD |
| 10:42 |
jyx |
+u |
| 10:44 |
jyx |
anyway i think the problem shouldnt even be in the accelerometer |
| 10:45 |
jyx |
i will read some docs on how rotation is managed on apps |
| 10:46 |
jyx |
im on tabler.. brb i get to the pc |
| 11:25 |
dproldan |
oh, It's quite easy to modidy the stock, hidden launcher |
| 11:26 |
dproldan |
I just modified it to show 4 columns instead of 6, less clutter |
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CEnnis91 |
dproldan: some of the keycodes work |
| 14:07 |
dproldan |
you already woke up? :-) |
| 14:07 |
dproldan |
nice about the keycodes |
| 14:08 |
dproldan |
I'm trying to fix the stock launcher apps chooser |
| 14:08 |
CEnnis91 |
yea, power+X keys dont work and vol up + vol down doesn't seem to |
| 14:08 |
CEnnis91 |
so it may have to be like vol up+media |
| 14:08 |
CEnnis91 |
havent decided the best method yet |
| 14:09 |
dproldan |
I've already found what to change to have less columns in the apps grid |
| 14:09 |
dproldan |
I'm trying to find why some apps don't show up |
| 14:10 |
CEnnis91 |
may be hidden from launchers |
| 14:10 |
CEnnis91 |
you can set that in the app itself |
| 14:13 |
dproldan |
they show up in zeam or any other launcher, except in the stock one, the one you get with menu button |
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CEnnis91 |
ah yea, i havent figured that one out yet |
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