Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-05-09

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02:00 jyx mbm?
02:01 jyx you there?
02:07 jyx ilbot was offline, if you replied to my messages please repeat them
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02:36 [mbm] some people are absolutely incapable of doing anything without spamming others :/
02:36 * CEnnis91 wonders if jyx knows about the logger
02:38 [mbm] did you get the repack stuff working?
02:40 CEnnis91 havent flashed it yet
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04:52 ds2 [mbm]: ping?
04:57 [mbm] .
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06:19 ds2 [mbm]: how sure are you that a home key will solve the launcher switching problem?
06:20 dproldan is it still a problem? really?
06:20 CEnnis91 launcher switching problem?
06:20 CEnnis91 you would need to not set it as default
06:20 ds2 yes it is unless there is an alt
06:20 ds2 no no
06:20 ds2 I want access to the Moto programs
06:20 ds2 but I have no way to return from them
06:21 dproldan install a program like button savior
06:21 CEnnis91 i really need to get started on that rom
06:21 CEnnis91 and end all these silly questions
06:21 dproldan it's a soft home button
06:21 CEnnis91 =P
06:21 ds2 button savior?
06:21 CEnnis91 schools over now so i should have sufficient time
06:21 dproldan yes,  or swype pad,  or several opthers
06:21 ds2 if a home button will solve the issue, I can implement a home button when music+start is chorded
06:21 [mbm] lol, soft buttons on an already tiny screen
06:22 ds2 wanted to find out if that really solves the issue before I go down that route
06:22 dproldan they autohide
06:23 dproldan i'm not going to make a video for you guys,  if you want to resolve the "problem",  install it and configure it to your liking
06:23 dproldan it works perfectly
06:23 * CEnnis91 refrains from any comments, ive already discussed my opinion with dproldan on this
06:23 CEnnis91 =P
06:24 [mbm] btw, anyone else finding the back button extremely hard to hit? can't remember if it's always been that annoying or if I broke it playing with some setting
06:24 ds2 soft buttons is not really a solution
06:24 ds2 I much rather write the code for chording if all it needs is a real home key event
06:24 CEnnis91 [mbm]: i mentioned  it being a pita to hit a while back, you disagreed at that point
06:24 CEnnis91 but it was a little different
06:24 [mbm] oh, shrug
06:25 CEnnis91 it was too sensitive
06:25 ds2 videos get ignored anyways. any useful info is written not in a video
06:25 CEnnis91 your issue appears, not sensitive enough?
06:25 CEnnis91 ds2: dont fool yourself, written information is overlooked as well
06:25 [mbm] I pretty much need to press the bottom corner of the screen and 50% of the time it selects stuff from the screen
06:25 ds2 right now the Zaem launcher + a time widget gets me the time functionality and access to my apps. just need access to the stock stuff and I think I have what I need
06:25 ds2 CEnnis91: I am not wasting my time chasing videos
06:26 CEnnis91 ds2: yea i have a key mod that will fix that
06:26 CEnnis91 when i get around to it
06:26 dproldan well,  looks like you want to have FITNESS, MUSIC, HOME, MENU, VOL +, VOL -,  POWER
06:26 * CEnnis91 doesnt know why he keeps talking about it, he hasnt ACTUALLY tested it on this device yet
06:26 dproldan but this only has 5 button
06:26 CEnnis91 power+fitness power+music
06:27 ds2 CEnnis91: you are doing the keymap file mod right?
06:27 CEnnis91 this mod doesnt touch that keymap file
06:27 CEnnis91 its in init.rc
06:27 CEnnis91 so the boot.img
06:27 ds2 CEnnis91: do you support chording or?
06:27 CEnnis91 huh?
06:28 ds2 otherwise you are giving up buttons
06:28 [mbm] CEnnis91: are you just firing off intents in response to keycodes or are you triggering virtual keycodes?
06:28 CEnnis91 the keycodes will link to a script that fires the intent
06:28 [mbm] figured
06:29 CEnnis91 best way to handle the lack of keys imo
06:29 ds2 hmmm
06:29 CEnnis91 least space, simple, and actually configurable to a point
06:29 [mbm] dunno how that works when an app requires a key though
06:30 dproldan it doesn't...
06:30 ds2 so 'am ...' in response to a key
06:30 CEnnis91 huh?
06:30 CEnnis91 yes
06:30 CEnnis91 but first you DO need the modded keymap
06:30 dproldan just make  a bugtogo.sh,  change the keycodes in init.rc
06:30 dproldan it doesn't work
06:30 CEnnis91 no?
06:30 dproldan nope
06:31 CEnnis91 *sigh* i guess i better see if i can test this now
06:31 ds2 a simple C program is much easier
06:31 CEnnis91 ill have to finish with gimp later
06:31 [mbm] should be able to fire of something like am start -n ...
06:33 * [mbm] knows that at the very least you can fire off intents to get back to the home selection screen
06:33 CEnnis91 ugh im in windows this is gonna be a pita
06:34 ds2 [mbm]: know what the am start...  line would be?
06:34 ds2 easy enough to watch for buttons from a C program and run that
06:35 [mbm] not off the top of my head, but you can always try with am start -n android.intent.action.MAIN
06:36 CEnnis91 wtf why are you connecting to mass storage right away
06:37 [mbm] reminds me, found a set of props once that bypassed the motorola usb control and suddenly there was the android character with the usb symbol on the arm when I connected usb
06:37 ds2 problem is I donno what the launcher is called
06:37 CEnnis91 com.android.launcher
06:37 ds2 is that always the name of the launcher?
06:37 CEnnis91 usually
06:37 CEnnis91 most oems dont change it
06:37 ds2 Oh okay
06:37 [mbm] probably best not to hardcode a specific apk and instead just fire off a generic intent
06:38 CEnnis91 ^
06:38 CEnnis91 or
06:38 CEnnis91 have it read a text file
06:38 CEnnis91 or something
06:38 CEnnis91 to configure it
06:38 CEnnis91 ugh i guess im going into linux
06:38 [mbm] Intent { act=android.intent.action.MAIN cat=[android.intent.category.HOME] flg=0x10000000 cmp=com.motorola.blur.home/.HomeActivity }
06:38 ds2 i just want a specific hack to solve a problem
06:39 ds2 want to spend more time figuring out a suitable mapping/gps app
06:40 [mbm] simple way for figuring out the intents is to just look at logcat as you do things
06:40 ds2 intents firing off always gets logged there?
06:43 [mbm] yep
06:43 ds2 nifty
06:43 [mbm] still upset that we can't just add more capacitive keys like the back button
06:44 ds2 ITO is expensive
06:47 CEnnis91 wtf
06:47 CEnnis91 my old boot.img doesnt root it?
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06:51 CEnnis91 dproldan: do you have the keymap mod
06:52 dproldan ?  you only have to change keymap.kl
06:52 CEnnis91 yea i dont know the values
06:52 dproldan key 220   FITNESS           WAKE_DROPPED
06:52 dproldan key 226   HEADSETHOOK       WAKE
06:52 dproldan key 387   MEDIA             WAKE_DROPPED
06:53 CEnnis91 thank you
06:53 dproldan chnage key 220 to HOME
06:53 CEnnis91 yep
06:53 CEnnis91 and media to menu
06:53 dproldan key 397 to MENU
06:53 CEnnis91 had to put this thing back into 5.6.0 for the 8gb
06:54 CEnnis91 this device is so fucking confused cuz i flash so much crap on it
06:54 CEnnis91 okay wtf
06:55 CEnnis91 [mbm]: this thing wont let me go into adb
06:55 [mbm] flash one of my boot images?
06:55 CEnnis91 i flashed the rooted update.zip that i made
06:55 CEnnis91 i know it works
06:56 CEnnis91 gonna try one more thing
06:56 CEnnis91 might be a setting i put in
06:56 CEnnis91 so im gonna wipe it
06:59 CEnnis91 any day now..
06:59 CEnnis91 there we go
07:00 CEnnis91 guess i did something funky last time i used it
07:15 CEnnis91 dproldan: alright testing this out now
07:15 CEnnis91 with a simple addition
07:15 CEnnis91 i dont exactly trust bugtogo.sh
07:17 CEnnis91 hrm
07:20 CEnnis91 ugh fuck you moto
07:20 CEnnis91 dproldan: i guess ill have to rethink this then
07:23 CEnnis91 [mbm]: what would be the best place to read keycodes
07:23 CEnnis91 logcat didnt really show much
07:25 [mbm] you can see them with getevent
07:26 CEnnis91 oh neat
07:27 CEnnis91 so is ds2's method of C the next best thing really?
07:27 CEnnis91 or is the polling going to kill battery
07:28 [mbm] the init.rc trick didn't work?
07:28 CEnnis91 doesnt appear to
07:29 CEnnis91 no service is even fired from it
07:29 [mbm] :/
07:29 [mbm] init problem?
07:30 [mbm] I eman, we could recompile init
07:30 CEnnis91 random url found in getprop: [persist.g2.golf.course_url]: [http://download-cloud1-krusty.blurdev.com]
07:30 CEnnis91 not sure if its an init
07:30 CEnnis91 problem
07:30 [mbm] yeah, servers are named after the simpsons
07:31 CEnnis91 service restartme /system/bin/reboot
07:31 CEnnis91 oneshot
07:31 CEnnis91 disabled
07:31 CEnnis91 keycodes 107 387
07:31 CEnnis91 thats what i added btw
07:31 CEnnis91 so theres no way that can be messed up =P
07:31 [mbm] try it with a single keycode to see if it's an issue with multiple keys?
07:32 CEnnis91 and run them through a script to see if both are pressed at the same time?
07:34 [mbm] well, mostly just want to know if the keycodes function in init.rc works at all
07:35 CEnnis91 rebooting with it in now
07:35 CEnnis91 oh hey it worked
07:35 CEnnis91 using the music key
07:36 [mbm] hmm, so it just can't handle multiple keys?
07:36 CEnnis91 interesting
07:36 CEnnis91 i just noticed POWER has two keycoes
07:36 CEnnis91 one with a WAKE and one with a WAKE_DROPPED
07:38 CEnnis91 [mbm]: so what does this mean that single keys work
07:39 CEnnis91 trying a keycode without the power key as well btw
07:39 CEnnis91 [mbm]: start+music seem to work
07:39 CEnnis91 but i was lazy and also made that reboot
07:40 CEnnis91 actually nvm i wasnt that dumb
07:40 CEnnis91 start+music work
07:40 CEnnis91 so its the power key
07:41 CEnnis91 [mbm]: worst case i can make it double tap to open the app lol
07:43 CEnnis91 strange
07:43 CEnnis91 vol up+ menu works
07:44 CEnnis91 but vol up + vol down doesnt
07:44 CEnnis91 ds2: there still might be hope for my plan
07:46 [mbm] isn't vol+ and vol- already used for bugtogo or something?
07:46 CEnnis91 yea, but that never seems to get fired
07:46 CEnnis91 service, or script
07:46 [mbm] could be a hardware limitation of how they keys are sensed
07:47 CEnnis91 possibly
07:47 CEnnis91 but there are still keycodes that work
07:47 CEnnis91 just not power
07:47 CEnnis91 [mbm]: so what would work simpler user wise, a double tap? or media+vol key?
07:50 [mbm] aren't there already doubletap hotkeys for things like start and media?
07:50 CEnnis91 dont think so
07:50 [mbm] I mean stock
07:51 [mbm] thought double tapping media skipped to the next track
07:51 [mbm] and there was some quickstart thing with the start button
07:51 CEnnis91 hrm guess so
07:51 CEnnis91 wtf moto triple pressing?
07:51 CEnnis91 Press=Play/pause
07:51 CEnnis91 Double press=Next song
07:51 CEnnis91 Triple press=Previous song
07:51 CEnnis91 Press & hold=Return to music
07:51 CEnnis91 thats on media
07:51 CEnnis91 i guess media/start+vol key it is
07:51 [mbm] triple? damn.
07:52 [mbm] use one vol key as home and the other as menu?
07:52 CEnnis91 dont think the media controls work with the modded keymap
07:52 CEnnis91 and loss volume control? lol
07:52 CEnnis91 lose*
07:53 [mbm] well, I mean something+vol- something+vol+
07:53 CEnnis91 possibly
07:53 CEnnis91 does play/pause have intents?
07:53 CEnnis91 well yea
07:54 CEnnis91 do they have intents i can call?
07:54 [mbm] probably, but I don't see why you modded tke keymap
07:54 CEnnis91 some things NEED the menu/home
07:55 CEnnis91 and right now thats the best way to get them
07:55 [mbm] :/
07:55 CEnnis91 might reverse it to make home/menu the keycodes
07:55 CEnnis91 i guess it depends on the persons usage
07:56 [mbm] it's a shame that we can't do this in the kernel
07:56 CEnnis91 may have to make it smart and detect what the person wants
07:56 [mbm] and by we I mean jyx
07:56 CEnnis91 hehe
07:57 CEnnis91 to get the most functionality, it would probably be keep the keymap stock, and add in home/menu
07:57 CEnnis91 but realistically, most ppl are going to want the opposite
07:58 CEnnis91 actually
07:58 CEnnis91 theres no way to call menu from intents is there?
07:58 CEnnis91 home, yes, but i dont know of anyway to get menu
07:58 [mbm] never looked
07:59 [mbm] need to get moto to release the later kernels with the wake functionality
07:59 CEnnis91 yep, good luck with that
08:02 CEnnis91 meh 4am, guess ill deal with this in the morning
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10:32 jyx hi
10:32 dproldan lo
10:32 jyx yo
10:32 dproldan sup
10:32 jyx lulz
10:33 dproldan :-)
10:33 jyx xD
10:33 dproldan so,  you were able to modify devtree?
10:33 jyx dproland yesterday i managed to modify and flash new devtree
10:33 dproldan great
10:33 jyx but no changes lol
10:34 dproldan even for games?
10:34 jyx anything
10:34 jyx i tested the accel output with androidsensor
10:34 jyx is the same as stock, i tried to change lot of combinations pf attributes
10:34 jyx i dunno
10:35 jyx mau
10:35 jyx maybe the kernel ignores that config
10:36 dproldan pity
10:40 dproldan other approach is modifiyng the stock launcher
10:40 jyx why the launcher?
10:41 dproldan i suppose that's where the rotation is
10:41 dproldan or is it in  a library?
10:42 jyx dunno where rotation is managed
10:42 jyx actally
10:42 jyx xD
10:42 jyx +u
10:44 jyx anyway i think the problem shouldnt even be in the accelerometer
10:45 jyx i will read some docs on how rotation is managed on apps
10:46 jyx im on tabler.. brb i get to the pc
11:25 dproldan oh,  It's quite easy to modidy the stock, hidden launcher
11:26 dproldan I just modified it to show 4 columns instead of 6,  less clutter
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14:04 CEnnis91 dproldan: some of the keycodes work
14:07 dproldan you already woke up?   :-)
14:07 dproldan nice about the keycodes
14:08 dproldan I'm trying to fix the stock launcher apps chooser
14:08 CEnnis91 yea, power+X keys dont work and vol up + vol down doesn't seem to
14:08 CEnnis91 so it may have to be like vol up+media
14:08 CEnnis91 havent decided the best method yet
14:09 dproldan I've already found what to change to have less columns in the apps grid
14:09 dproldan I'm trying to find why some apps don't show up
14:10 CEnnis91 may be hidden from launchers
14:10 CEnnis91 you can set that in the app itself
14:13 dproldan they show up in zeam or any other launcher,  except in the stock one,  the one you get with menu button
14:20 CEnnis91 ah yea, i havent figured that one out yet
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