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IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-05-18

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Time Nick Message
00:00 dproldan wait for [mbm] ,  he knows about these things a lot
00:00 PhoenixMage what was asec for?
00:01 PhoenixMage Wonder if I restore a stock rom if it might resolve it and something screwy happened the first time
00:01 dproldan kind of a encripted temporal partition
00:01 PhoenixMage I might has well have bought an 8gb the way its formatted
00:03 dproldan I'm not sure a rom can fix this
00:04 dproldan there's nothing in the imgs telling the device if it's a 8 or a 16
00:04 PhoenixMage Have you come across anyone else who has a 16gb?
00:06 dproldan some have come here
00:07 dproldan never heard of this problem before
00:07 PhoenixMage hmmm
00:09 ds2 what's the partition table look like?
00:11 PhoenixMage ds2: http://pastebin.com/LLhQp9YL
00:11 PhoenixMage I am reflashing stock atm
00:14 ds2 think ur FS is improperly flashed
00:14 dproldan i think you have a problem here:
00:14 ds2 or you need to run resize2fs on it
00:14 dproldan dev/block/mmcblk1p4              13      121504    15550976    5  Extended
00:14 ds2 ?
00:14 dproldan that's the EBR,  it stores info about extended partitions
00:15 dproldan mine is 1 block in size
00:15 PhoenixMage reflash didnt help
00:15 ds2 don't matter... it is just a place holder
00:16 CEnnis91|Mobile joined #motoactv
00:16 dproldan start 13   end 121504
00:17 PhoenixMage So, where to go from here?
00:17 CEnnis91|Mobile Hm? This seems interesting
00:17 CEnnis91|Mobile What are we working on
00:18 dproldan PhoenixMage:has a 16GB that mounts as a 8GB
00:19 ds2 I suspect the filesystem just needs to be resized
00:19 CEnnis91|Mobile Mounts?
00:19 ds2 is resize2fs on there?
00:19 CEnnis91|Mobile Or just says it is
00:19 CEnnis91|Mobile ds2: no
00:19 ds2 actually... it don't matter
00:19 ds2 nevermind...this is fat
00:19 CEnnis91|Mobile PhoenixMage: for shits
00:19 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/j2gp9Msd
00:19 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/Cx5tU14g
00:19 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/LLhQp9YL
00:20 CEnnis91|Mobile Plug it in to a computer wait 30 seconds and unplug
00:20 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh
00:20 CEnnis91|Mobile Lolll
00:20 PhoenixMage Indeed
00:21 PhoenixMage Maybe there is a 16Gb stock rom
00:21 PhoenixMage That repartitions
00:21 ds2 partitions are fine
00:21 ds2 it is your FS
00:22 dproldan we tried to mount it from recovery
00:23 CEnnis91|Mobile dproldan: 1p22 is correct size right?
00:23 PhoenixMage nope
00:23 PhoenixMage yes
00:23 PhoenixMage sorry
00:23 dproldan yep
00:23 CEnnis91|Mobile So
00:23 CEnnis91|Mobile Did you try to partition the sdcard
00:23 CEnnis91|Mobile If so why
00:23 PhoenixMage CEnnis91: Up until I came in here to solve the problem it was stock
00:23 CEnnis91|Mobile What did you flash
00:23 PhoenixMage Havent done anything to it other then update the rom
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile Wait
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile But ur rooted?
00:24 PhoenixMage I am now but wasnt when I started
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile OK
00:24 PhoenixMage actually I installed the non-rooted rom just then so no not atm
00:24 PhoenixMage But am about to rerooy
00:24 PhoenixMage reroot
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile No update repartitions the sdcard
00:24 CEnnis91|Mobile I've seen them
00:25 CEnnis91|Mobile Or touches them for that matter
00:25 CEnnis91|Mobile http://db.tt/QRw5mjng
00:25 PhoenixMage When you flash a ROM arent you basically dding an OS onto the device?
00:25 PhoenixMage Or is it just a software update?
00:25 CEnnis91|Mobile There unreleased stock from
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile Rom*
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile I didn't test it either
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile But 99% it'll work
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile (I've tested other variations just not that particular package)
00:26 PhoenixMage That looks like a 16Gb ROM
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile Yep
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile No one has them yet
00:26 CEnnis91|Mobile I had to make it
00:27 PhoenixMage Oh
00:27 dproldan ds2: fdisk
00:27 dproldan oops
00:27 PhoenixMage So Motorolla are realeasing 16Gb Motoactv's with an 8Gb RoM
00:27 CEnnis91|Mobile No
00:27 PhoenixMage How would I flash this?
00:28 CEnnis91|Mobile Not telling you until I test it =P
00:29 CEnnis91|Mobile I don't want to be anymore liable then I already am for releasing "back to stock" and rooted images
00:29 dproldan PhoenixMage: there's something wrong with your device,  is it possible to exchange it
00:29 dproldan ?
00:29 PhoenixMage dproldan: Its from Amazon
00:29 PhoenixMage Not sure how to exchange it
00:29 CEnnis91|Mobile dproldan: does he have an extra partition on his device?
00:29 PhoenixMage CEnnis91: How can I test it without flashing it?
00:29 PhoenixMage Its ok
00:29 CEnnis91|Mobile I don't remember if it was p22 or p21 that was the last one
00:30 PhoenixMage Just read the flashing script
00:30 dproldan CEnnis91|Mobile: he has the right partitions
00:30 CEnnis91|Mobile Hmmm
00:30 dproldan the last one,  p22 is 14M blocks,  so it's ok
00:30 CEnnis91|Mobile dproldan: can a hardware issue just cause half of a partition to fail?
00:31 dproldan yes,  stranger things have happened...
00:32 CEnnis91|Mobile PhoenixMage: I would say ask [mbm] and see if he can help, and if not, swap it out
00:33 PhoenixMage Shall I try your rom?
00:34 CEnnis91|Mobile Wait until I test it tonight I'll most likely be releasing them officially
00:34 CEnnis91|Mobile Also
00:34 CEnnis91|Mobile That won't help it
00:34 CEnnis91|Mobile Based on how it looks my rom won't help
00:34 dproldan one more try PhoenixMage
00:34 dproldan type this:
00:34 dproldan dmesg | grep mmcblk1
00:35 PhoenixMage hang on will reroot
00:35 CEnnis91|Mobile dproldan: kmsg as well?
00:35 dproldan lemme check
00:36 dproldan same thing as dmesg
00:37 CEnnis91|Mobile oh
00:37 CEnnis91|Mobile Okay
00:37 CEnnis91|Mobile Meh bbl back to work
00:38 dproldan PhoenixMage: better try :
00:38 dproldan dmesg | grep mmc1
00:39 dproldan i get this:
00:39 dproldan <6>[    9.079528] mmc1 set to SECTOR mode
00:39 dproldan <6>[    9.103332] mmc1: new high speed MMC card at address 0001
00:39 dproldan <6>[    9.103637] mmc1: enable Toshiba workaround
00:39 dproldan <6>[    9.103851] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 MMC08G 7.45 GiB
00:41 PhoenixMage dmesg | grep mmc1
00:41 PhoenixMage <6>[    9.033447] mmc1 set to SECTOR mode
00:41 PhoenixMage <4>[    9.034912] mmc1: CSD structure version decoded in EXT_CSD
00:41 PhoenixMage <6>[    9.058044] mmc1: new high speed MMC card at address 0001
00:41 PhoenixMage <6>[    9.058502] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 SEM16G 14.8 GiB
00:46 dproldan sorry,  no more ideas
00:47 dproldan wait for [mbm]   :-)
00:47 dproldan gotta go now,  bye
00:50 PhoenixMage Is [mbm] likely to be around soon?
01:05 ds2 the FS is messed up
01:05 ds2 it needs to be resized.
01:27 [mbm] probably not
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01:32 PhoenixMage Hi [mbm]
01:32 PhoenixMage I am hoping you can help me :)
01:33 PhoenixMage 16Gb Motoactv but I am only getting access to 8Bg
01:33 PhoenixMage Gb
01:35 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/j2gp9Msd
01:35 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/Cx5tU14g
01:35 PhoenixMage http://pastebin.com/LLhQp9YL
01:37 [mbm] well, just because it has a 16G flash doesn't mean that you'll get 16G of storage, even when stock
01:40 PhoenixMage I realise that but I only get 6.7Gb as a drive in windows
01:40 PhoenixMage /mnt/sdcard              6G     1G     5G   32768
01:40 PhoenixMage /mnt/secure/asec         6G     1G     5G   32768
01:40 PhoenixMage Seems the weird part to me
01:41 [mbm] hmm yeah, my 8G has about that much
01:43 PhoenixMage The above pastebins have pretty much all the info the others asked me to get
01:43 PhoenixMage They said you were the better person to help me when they ran out of ideas
01:44 [mbm] yeah, skimming over the pastes
01:44 [mbm] you should be seeing about 14G of storage
01:44 PhoenixMage thats what I was expectin g
01:44 ds2 for the Nth time... FS issue
01:45 [mbm] yeah, looks like the filesystem was created smaller than the partition
01:45 PhoenixMage ds2: All well and good but I am as interested in the why
01:45 [mbm] curious why
01:45 ds2 factory guy got sleepy and pressed the wrong button?
01:45 PhoenixMage What command would I use to rectify it? And how would it happen
01:45 ds2 it isn't likely they are actually building a fs and copying files on there
01:45 [mbm] PhoenixMage: might have missed it above, but have you done anything that may have changed the filesystem?
01:45 ds2 they're probally just imaging it and putting the wrong image in would do this
01:46 PhoenixMage [mbm]: Nope was stock until I came in here to see if anyone had seen it b4
01:46 [mbm] oh, then just dig through the menus and do a factory reset
01:46 ds2 doesn't that throw out all the preloaded music?
01:47 [mbm] hopefully :)
01:47 ds2 and the maps?
01:47 ds2 and the....
01:47 [mbm] (.. since that's all stored on the "sdcard" he's trying to reformat)
01:48 PhoenixMage hmmm, brb need to reboot
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01:48 [mbm] there's nothing critical on there
01:48 ds2 not saying it will brick the device... just be tossing out all the 'freebies'
01:49 [mbm] easy enough; mount it in windows, copy files off, format, copy files back
01:51 [mbm] from the linux kernel's view, the size of the filesystem is determined by the dos partition table shown in fdisk
01:52 [mbm] bootloader has other ideas though
01:52 [mbm] everything the bootloader knows about the partition layout comes from cdt
01:52 ds2 so it makes it fun to write images from the bootloader ;)
01:53 [mbm] heh yep
01:53 [mbm] the layout of the 8G and the 16G is identical until the last partition
01:53 [mbm] extra space got added to emstorage
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01:54 PhoenixMage strange its not showing up as a drive anymore
01:54 [mbm] you rooted it?
01:54 PhoenixMage yeah
01:54 [mbm] connect to adb
01:54 [mbm] then run "stop adbd"
01:55 PhoenixMage Thanks :)
01:55 ds2 what is wrong with the Actv kernel?
01:55 ds2 most other platforms do a composite adb/mass storage/etc device
01:55 ds2 that seems broken on the actv
01:55 PhoenixMage Factory reset didnt fix the problem
01:56 [mbm] ds2: well, part of it is the way it was rooted
01:56 [mbm] normal moto device you have a settings meny with a checkbox for adb and then a notification icon for the usb mode
01:56 [mbm] later part is controlled by usb.apk talking to a usbd
01:57 ds2 that amounts to mucking with sysfs, right?
01:57 [mbm] usbd then writes a /dev/usb_device_mode to kick the kernel into various modes
01:57 [mbm] there's a motorola android gadget in the kernel that knows several modes
01:57 ds2 hmmm
01:57 ds2 what would it take to get to stay in a composite mass storage + adb mode?
01:58 [mbm] ethernet, mass storage, mtp, serial .. various combinations
01:58 PhoenixMage So, whats the next suggestion?
01:58 [mbm] PhoenixMage: you're in windows? bring up the disk management and see ho big indows thinks the partition is
02:00 [mbm] (start -> computer - right click, manage -> disk management ...)
02:00 PhoenixMage lol, it says its 14.14 Gb in the disk manager
02:00 PhoenixMage but in my computer its 6.7
02:00 [mbm] yeah, right click it in management and format
02:00 PhoenixMage I am guessing I should back it up first
02:01 PhoenixMage Or I will lose the maps, mp3s, etc?
02:01 [mbm] can if you want; amounts to a bunch of preinstalled music
02:01 [mbm] maps stay
02:02 [mbm] sounds as if your factory reset didn't wipe the "sdcard"
02:03 [mbm] thought that used to be a checkbox when you did the reset
02:03 PhoenixMage No checkboxx on mine just a big red button that says reset
02:04 * [mbm] has gone through factory reset on a variety of moto devices and forgets which one did what
02:04 PhoenixMage What are the maps for anyway/
02:04 PhoenixMage ?
02:04 ds2 mapping :)
02:04 [mbm] two types of maps .. street maps which show up when you tell the walk/run to record your route wth gps
02:04 PhoenixMage lol, you cant view maps on it though
02:04 PhoenixMage ?
02:05 [mbm] and golf course maps which can be donloaded for when you select the golf exercise
02:05 PhoenixMage oh ok
02:05 PhoenixMage So it will display your route on the motoactv?
02:05 [mbm] yeah, in a very very tiny map
02:05 PhoenixMage heh
02:06 PhoenixMage Given I am from Australia I dont think those ones will help me. I am here for work for a month and got one shipped from Amazon
02:06 PhoenixMage Done, now have 14.14 Gb in My Computer
02:06 PhoenixMage Thanks [mbm]
02:09 [mbm] :)
02:10 [mbm] put a few mp3s back and make sure they show up on the device
02:10 [mbm] just to make sure you didn't accidentally format it as something the motoactv can't read
02:11 ds2 that should be harmless
02:11 ds2 the actv would then prompt you to format the media
02:11 [mbm] hmm, probably right
02:12 [mbm] there's also a masterclear command that can be run from adb; same thing the factory reset menu option does, but there are commandline switches for how much to delete
02:12 CEnnis91 so anything news on PhoenixMage's issue?
02:12 [mbm] CEnnis91: nothing interesting, just reformat the partition and it's fine
02:12 CEnnis91 ah figured as much
02:13 CEnnis91 [mbm]: do we know HOW it happened?
02:13 [mbm] guessing some idiot at the factory write a 6G image to /sdcard instead of the 14G one that's supposed to be there
02:13 PhoenixMage Music shows up thanks :)
02:15 CEnnis91 [mbm]: random question, you have any multi-monitor setups, and software you commonly use to go with them?
02:19 [mbm] in what regards?
02:19 [mbm] I connect to irc from a remote machine, via irssi, inside a screen session over ssh
02:20 CEnnis91 nah
02:20 [mbm] so whatever machine I'm on I just reattach the screen session
02:20 CEnnis91 i ended up getting a 20" monitor for free yesterday
02:20 CEnnis91 so im trying a dual-monitor setup
02:20 [mbm] nifty
02:21 [mbm] not really much to it; windows it's just a control panel click to enable it, pretty much the same under ubuntu
02:21 CEnnis91 yea
02:21 CEnnis91 but i was actually more satisfied with ubuntu's setup
02:21 CEnnis91 apparently windows wont extend the taskbar to the external
02:22 [mbm] there's a way to do it, but I'm not on windows often enough to care
02:22 CEnnis91 yea, theres a few programs that everyone seems to recommend
02:22 CEnnis91 ultramon / displayfusion
02:23 PhoenixMage I have ultramon
02:23 PhoenixMage Its great
02:23 CEnnis91 actually go out and pay for it?
02:23 [mbm] also depends on how you tell windows to extend .. there's some hardware that tells windows it's a virtual monitor twice as wide
02:24 CEnnis91 (you dont have to answer if you dont want)
02:24 CEnnis91 [mbm]: you talking about driver wise?
02:24 PhoenixMage Yeah, I paid for it
02:24 [mbm] hardware actually
02:25 CEnnis91 hmmm
02:25 PhoenixMage I have this odd tendency to pay for stuff now that I can afford to
02:25 PhoenixMage I even bought a CD the other day
02:26 [mbm] PhoenixMage: think what CEnnis91 was saying is that he's still in the "evaulation period" ;)
02:26 PhoenixMage lol
02:26 PhoenixMage Yes, just like I take off site backups for others
02:27 CEnnis91 tbh i dont like being in said evaluation period
02:27 CEnnis91 its something i usually do as a last resort
02:30 * [mbm] usually runs linux, not many commercial apps required
02:30 PhoenixMage My servers are all linux
02:30 PhoenixMage I dual boot ubuntu but windows is for gaming
02:30 CEnnis91 yep
02:31 CEnnis91 thats basically why i have windows left
02:31 CEnnis91 im actually rarely on it
02:31 [mbm] apparently the local electronics store offers evaluation periods on hardware, judging from the massive amounts of return stickers
02:31 PhoenixMage I game more then I should :p
02:31 PhoenixMage Just bought me a PS Vita
02:31 PhoenixMage It rocks
02:40 CEnnis91 PhoenixMage: hmmm ultramon cant mirror the entire win7 taskbar?
02:48 PhoenixMage CEnnis91: To be honest I cant remember, its been a while since I used it
02:48 CEnnis91 doesnt seem to
02:57 CEnnis91 hmmm
02:57 CEnnis91 may have just found a way i can do this for free
02:57 CEnnis91 FREE FREE
02:57 CEnnis91 (LEGIT FREE is probably a better way to put it)
03:01 CEnnis91 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dualmonitortb/
03:26 ds2 ~
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11:15 dproldan .
11:30 kr1t1c4l everyone is asleep
11:30 dproldan what shops are selling the MotoACTV?  I'm looking for a shop in Orange county.
11:32 dproldan Where are you located, kr1t1c4l ?
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19:49 AndroidFreak Hey guys
19:50 AndroidFreak Just installed "AndChat", very IRC app for android
19:50 AndroidFreak Maybe you wanna try it on your motoactvs?
19:51 AndroidFreak Im still w8ing for my motoactv to arrive from the US
19:51 dproldan you want to know if ti works fine?
19:52 AndroidFreak No, just thought you guys would want a nice IRC app for you devices
19:52 AndroidFreak =)
21:02 kr1t1c4l dproldan: South Pacific UTC +12 - so sorry can't help with your question
21:06 dproldan ok,  antipodes from me,
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21:19 kr1t1c4l dproldan: why Orange County - flying into LAX sometime?

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