Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-06-18

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00:50 CEnnis91 dproldan nooooo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showp​ost.php?p=27514252&postcount=2331
02:23 Quietlyawesome94 joined #motoactv
06:29 CEnnis91 [mbm]: you around
06:30 CEnnis91 ah, there we go nvm
06:30 CEnnis91 was trying to build something with png support, and i couldnt figure out what bin to install
06:34 [mbm] yo.
06:34 [mbm] my motoactv is acting screwy
06:34 CEnnis91 really?
06:34 [mbm] back button only works if the device is grounded
06:34 [mbm] in other words I have to be touching the back metal plate
06:35 CEnnis91 lol...
06:35 CEnnis91 thats a new one
06:35 CEnnis91 what were you doin
06:35 [mbm] actually pretty common
06:35 [mbm] means that I need to calibrate it
06:36 CEnnis91 oh so its fixable?
06:36 CEnnis91 and common for what? the device or capacitive keys?
06:36 [mbm] yeah, but the calibrate code is missing from the driver and I'm not sure how it got screwed up in the first place
06:36 [mbm] any sort of touchscreen capacitance
06:36 [mbm] although the touchscreen itself works fine
06:36 CEnnis91 but it only affects the corner?
06:37 [mbm] yeah, weird
06:37 CEnnis91 didnt you say it was gradually getting harder to hit
06:37 CEnnis91 to register
06:37 [mbm] yep
06:37 CEnnis91 sounds like hardware in that case
06:37 CEnnis91 but i guess the calibration was just grad getting worse?
06:37 [mbm] also I dropped it not too long ago and chipped the corner opposite the back button
06:38 CEnnis91 opposite as in still bottom of the device?
06:38 [mbm] no, top right
06:38 CEnnis91 ah
06:40 [mbm] turns out that it's *really* hard to use the stock ui without a back button
06:40 CEnnis91 i would say so
06:41 CEnnis91 [mbm]: did dproldan mention in here that he found that the device has a double tap power button key?
06:41 CEnnis91 seems like that would be the best option for you back button wise
06:41 [mbm] what does that mean?
06:41 CEnnis91 for you to remap
06:41 [mbm] oh
06:42 CEnnis91 unless you use this as your leverage to bitch at moto to release proper source
06:42 [mbm] worth having someone else play with the device tree and see if it's possible to add additional capacitive buttons
06:42 [mbm] wondering if it was just my crappy hardware that prevented it from working
06:49 CEnnis91 i gues thats possible
06:59 [mbm] http://pastebin.com/EY3GkX2E .. 1742
07:13 CEnnis91 lol
07:13 CEnnis91 when was that done
07:14 CEnnis91 oh diff, not git
07:14 CEnnis91 [mbm]: did you try putting that in, or the code wouldnt work
07:15 [mbm] haven't gotten around to it yet
07:15 [mbm] dunno who created the pastebin
07:15 [mbm] but the code in the diff is from the nook color
07:15 [mbm] which actually does have a calibrate mode
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20:20 CEnnis91 [mbm]: ugh someone with the EU model came on the forums and rooted it =/
20:20 CEnnis91 (using the root tool)
20:34 [mbm] lol
20:35 AndroidFreak Is that bad?
20:36 [mbm] harmless except CEnnis91 has been trying to get stock images
20:37 CEnnis91 AndroidFreak: he will never be able to return back to EU stock
20:37 AndroidFreak Ah...
20:37 CEnnis91 if he needs to return it he can fake it however
20:37 AndroidFreak Ouch
20:38 CEnnis91 but hell never be able to return to stock so he can update
20:38 [mbm] CEnnis91: your anyroot doesn't keep backups?
20:38 CEnnis91 1) he didnt root with anyroot
20:38 CEnnis91 2) not for system.img
20:38 CEnnis91 or preinstall
20:38 AndroidFreak Suxx
20:38 CEnnis91 too much space, i didnt want to fill up the sdcards and freaking people out
20:39 CEnnis91 freak*
20:39 [mbm] well, hopefully he didn't mangle #2
20:39 AndroidFreak Dont worry, not your fault
20:39 CEnnis91 [mbm]: or #1
20:39 AndroidFreak People know that this is all experimental stuff
20:39 CEnnis91 [mbm]: iirc cleard's tool doesnt save boot.img anywhere
20:39 AndroidFreak He´s a big boy :)
20:40 dproldan uhm,  i think Boot.img is included in the tool's backup
20:40 CEnnis91 AndroidFreak: my tools / stock images pretty much assure that you will get back to stock thou =/
20:40 dproldan not, pds or preinstall
20:40 [mbm] completely offtopic but did anyone see moto is adding a 'qe' tool to the phones that logs modified files?
20:40 CEnnis91 dproldan: no i think ClearD packages them with it
20:40 CEnnis91 dproldan: i dont think he pulls the boot.img from the device
20:41 CEnnis91 so we need to pull an EU image
20:41 dproldan I think it does,  I'd need to boot windows o check
20:41 CEnnis91 also, did you see my comment on the forum regarding your post
20:41 AndroidFreak CEnnis91: there are no guarantees ever, and everyone knows that
20:41 CEnnis91 AndroidFreak: not me =)
20:41 AndroidFreak Lol
20:41 dproldan yeah,  sorry , I only take demands every other  thursday  ;-P
20:42 dproldan I'll include it in a zip,  thanks for the heads up
20:42 AndroidFreak Totally off topic #2: today motoactvforum.com had it's firt spammer.... don't know if thatvis good or bad. Lol
20:43 AndroidFreak (First)
20:43 CEnnis91 dproldan: no prob
20:43 CEnnis91 [mbm]: wtf is "qe"
20:43 CEnnis91 [mbm]: and its md5checking every file?
20:45 [mbm] so, on the razr they added a new service spawned by init
20:45 [mbm] in /xbin/qe
20:45 CEnnis91 bin or script?
20:45 [mbm] which is run as '/xbin/qe /system' .. binary
20:45 CEnnis91 moto likes to shove it's scripts in xbin
20:45 [mbm] that produces a /data/misc/qer
20:46 CEnnis91 and qer contains?
20:46 [mbm] which is basically like tripwire .. any file in /system changes and it gets logged there
20:46 CEnnis91 but what is it checking?
20:46 CEnnis91 md5 and where are those checked?
20:46 CEnnis91 md5?*
20:47 CEnnis91 or rather, where are the correct values stored
20:48 [mbm] http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-​4-roms/212349-rom-stock-motoblur-6-16-2​06-ics-leak-safestrap-2012-06-17-a.html
20:49 CEnnis91 [mbm]: disabled?
20:49 CEnnis91 probably mv qu que.bak
20:49 [mbm] ramdisk
20:49 [mbm] part of boot.img
20:49 CEnnis91 oh correctly
20:49 CEnnis91 nice
20:49 [mbm] which is signed
20:49 CEnnis91 oh hashcode did this
20:50 CEnnis91 so its not a shit job
20:50 CEnnis91 probably wont have time to look at this until later
20:50 [mbm] well, he found it and disabled it
20:51 [mbm] checked and didn't see it on older roms; something recent
20:51 CEnnis91 interesting
20:51 CEnnis91 did you poke around to see if it was on the bionic / d4?
20:52 [mbm] not on the bionic; found a copy in the razr ics
20:54 CEnnis91 this is a battle that will never end
20:54 CEnnis91 unfortunately
20:57 [mbm] yeah, not sure what the reason for qe is
20:58 CEnnis91 looks like its on the d4 too
20:58 CEnnis91 http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/v7dtc/c​arrier_iq_round_2_motorolas_android_devices_are/
20:59 CEnnis91 ah so you can still faux it
20:59 CEnnis91 well
20:59 CEnnis91 is pds signed?
21:03 [mbm] hmm, no
21:03 [mbm] although I'm not sure you can reflash it via fastboot
21:03 [mbm] pds is a sort of nvram
21:04 [mbm] used as a persistent storage
21:09 CEnnis91 so that means what? once it has values it can't be overwritten?
21:21 [mbm] no, I mean device specific config crap goes there

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