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IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-08-02

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13:08 Topic for #motoactv is now MotoACTV Development. Channel logs at http://irclog.perlgeek.de/motoactv/
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16:12 CEnnis91 dproldan: you around?
16:18 dproldan hello
16:35 dproldan CEnnis91: does DropBox tell you how many people have downloaded your EU images?
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16:42 JmCourir hi Guys!
16:42 dproldan Hi!
16:42 JmCourir I want to take time to say thank you on working on Motoactv
16:42 JmCourir I just bought it and it is a amazing product.
16:42 dproldan nice,  you're welcome
16:43 JmCourir very very nice and this will rule the future pretty soon to have android on watches :D
16:43 dproldan i agree,  wearables are coming into reality
16:43 JmCourir hard to get in Canada this Motoactv.
16:44 JmCourir I just bought from a -100$ price drop
16:44 JmCourir dproldan, do you still use that Motoactv?
16:44 dproldan sure,  It's my watch,  I wear it always
16:45 JmCourir same here since yesterday loll
16:45 JmCourir Now i'd like to install gmail apps and maps
16:45 dproldan yep
16:46 JmCourir If I root with V1.1.6 by ClearD, does the moto Training part will still work like it is right now?
16:46 JmCourir also for the smart music thing?
16:46 dproldan yes,  everything stock stays the same,  you only add more functionality
16:47 JmCourir and the Ant+ radio will still work too?
16:47 JmCourir this is very imporrtant for me
16:47 dproldan yes,  everything
16:47 JmCourir cool,
16:48 JmCourir I think this web link is the newest thing to follow to root the motoactv http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home#Root ?
16:48 CEnnis91 dproldan: nope unfortunately
16:48 dproldan if you know how to use fastboot,  you can skip the root tool, etc
16:48 CEnnis91 dproldan: question you care if i use anything you've put together in a rom?
16:48 JmCourir CEnnis91, ? talking about ant+?
16:49 CEnnis91 JmCourir: no, he asked me a question shortly before you joined
16:49 CEnnis91 i was just answering his
16:49 JmCourir ok
16:49 dproldan CEnnis91: sure,  go ahead,  let me know if I can help
16:49 CEnnis91 dproldan: you've done the contact sync and volume mod right?
16:49 CEnnis91 anything else?
16:49 dproldan JmCourir: http://forum.xda-developers.c​om/showthread.php?p=28179638
16:50 JmCourir I have MA  1.7.11  N8  (Non Golf) .. does it will work for me?
16:51 dproldan CEnnis91: white theme for all settings,  notif LED fixed,  more settings menu,  etc
16:51 dproldan JmCourir: yes
16:51 CEnnis91 oh you did more settings in the menu?
16:52 CEnnis91 damn thought i would do that first ;)
16:52 CEnnis91 what was wrong with LED?
16:52 dproldan take a look at that thread I posted
16:52 JmCourir need to read more here about fastboot...
16:52 dproldan the LED doesn't light up with the standard android apps
16:53 dproldan its default color is not using the blue component
16:53 dproldan needs to be fixed in colors.xml at framework-res
16:54 dproldan JmCourir: if you unzip the root tool,  "fastboot" is already extracted in one of the subfolders,  iirc
16:55 dproldan CEnnis91: also,  the wifi thing,  motorola made some changes so it turns off automatically after 60 seconds from last use
16:55 JmCourir founded
16:56 JmCourir Is it not simpler for me to use the gui app to root and install new launcher?
16:57 dproldan that's ok too.
16:58 dproldan but then you'll have to do many more things
16:58 JmCourir ? dproldan
16:58 dproldan like mofidy the buttons,  install gapps and fixes,  etc
16:59 JmCourir hmmm,
16:59 dproldan *modify
16:59 dproldan with the fastboot method,  only one step and you have everything running and ready to pley
17:00 dproldan play
17:00 JmCourir ok,  my Motoactv has never been root yet, so If I follow the post #1 from http://forum.xda-developers.c​om/showthread.php?p=28179638 it should be rooted at the end?  just asking
17:00 dproldan yes
17:00 JmCourir omg
17:01 JmCourir cant download DPRomBeta7.zip Second Release 10 July 2012
17:01 JmCourir link seems to be dead
17:01 dproldan oh?  let me check
17:02 JmCourir hmm it may be my google drive that mess everything
17:02 dproldan works fine for me
17:02 JmCourir hmmm
17:03 JmCourir it's here the problem ... google drive want to dowload it for me lol
17:03 JmCourir this seems to come from a google doc
17:04 JmCourir oh sorry i
17:04 JmCourir I got it,
17:04 JmCourir sorry dproldan
17:04 JmCourir :s
17:04 dproldan no problem,   Google drive is not very intuitive
17:05 JmCourir it was saying to me that it was a large file and wasn't able to scan for viruses...
17:05 JmCourir where you're from dproldan ? I'm from Québec, Canada
17:05 dproldan Málaga,  Spain
17:06 JmCourir oh wow! very far from here :D
17:06 dproldan yep :-)
17:06 JmCourir oh, btw, If I want to come back to stock rom, is this possible?
17:06 JmCourir I probably never do but only asking,
17:07 dproldan yep,  CEnnis91 has provided stock ROMS
17:07 JmCourir you guys are very brilliant
17:07 dproldan http://forum.xda-developers.​com/showthread.php?t=1534073
17:07 JmCourir you guys should contact motorolla and ask them to make the motoactv2
17:08 JmCourir and asking them to hire you guys to make the product
17:08 JmCourir the only thing that I'd like to see is a little vibrator
17:09 dproldan yep,  that would be great
17:09 JmCourir I think there is no product out there with so much radio inside of the same watch
17:10 JmCourir I very like ant+ !!! as I run almost 6 days per week with bike
17:10 JmCourir what features you guys like the most on this watch?
17:12 dproldan I like having so much info ready in my wrist,  there are  many places where I can't pull out my phone in my daily job
17:14 dproldan I'm hoping that someday we can have Google Now on it,  that thing is the future
17:14 JmCourir google now need a voice command right?
17:14 dproldan tells you cool information without the need to ask for it
17:14 dproldan not really,  search is just one part of it
17:15 JmCourir ok
17:15 JmCourir well, it's sad, I have to run here to office, going back to work for the aftenoon.
17:15 dproldan the moment you leave your house,  for example,  when you reach another destination,  it starts telling you how's the traffic back to your house,  etc
17:15 JmCourir I plan to stay here for a while with you guys.
17:15 JmCourir that's amazing feature
17:16 JmCourir cant wait to try that on those little things :)
17:16 JmCourir ok see you later dproldan, very appreciate that you share you talent to ppl like me :D
17:16 JmCourir very kind of you guys
17:17 dproldan I'm uploading a new version,  come back in a few hours,  to have the latest version
17:17 JmCourir nice dproldan, cant wait to try this!!!
17:17 JmCourir see you later, probably in maybe 5 hours from now ok
17:17 JmCourir hope you will still be here
17:18 JmCourir or maybe sleeping
17:18 JmCourir ok have to go
17:18 JmCourir bye bye
17:18 dproldan bye
17:22 CEnnis91 now to see if i can change a recovery's font data on the fly after compilation...
17:24 CEnnis91 bummer well that didnt work
17:27 dproldan in one of my tests,  I got the wifi and adb icons appear in the status bar,  can't make it work anymore...
17:32 CEnnis91 dproldan: that lies in systemui.apk
17:35 dproldan yep,  the icons are there and the smali files are not different from another phone's,
17:35 dproldan somethings are really convoluted in android
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20:37 CEnnis91|Mobile dproldan: You still here
20:37 dproldan yep
20:38 dproldan I think I found where the bluetooth devices are filtered,  so it only shows ad2p devices in the scan results
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20:39 CEnnis91|Mobile Bluetooth apk itself?
20:39 CEnnis91|Mobile And also, whats the deal with live wallpapers and widgets not staying after reboot
20:40 CEnnis91|Mobile Im looking at your features list
20:40 CEnnis91|Mobile And the accelerometer stuff
20:40 dproldan starting at 1.7 version,  the default storage is /sdcard
20:40 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh
20:40 dproldan so everything is installed there
20:40 CEnnis91|Mobile Right i know where this is going
20:41 CEnnis91|Mobile Thats a moto change?
20:41 dproldan widgets,  launchers,  etc need to be moved to internal storage to work
20:41 dproldan yes,  moto change
20:41 CEnnis91|Mobile Wtf
20:41 CEnnis91|Mobile Why would they even bother
20:41 dproldan no clue
20:42 dproldan it's even hardcoded somehwere,  I added the storage menu to settings,  but changing it doesn't work
20:42 CEnnis91|Mobile Im guessing you reverted it to make default install internal?
20:42 CEnnis91|Mobile There should be a am setting
20:43 CEnnis91|Mobile Err pm
20:43 dproldan actually,  it's not so bad,  because we have sush a small /data partition
20:43 dproldan changing with pm doesn't work
20:43 CEnnis91|Mobile Did you try installing stuff to preinstall?
20:44 dproldan yes,  works fine
20:44 CEnnis91|Mobile Ok
20:44 dproldan you only need to add a md5sum to /preinstall/md5/
20:44 CEnnis91|Mobile What about the accelerometer stuff
20:44 CEnnis91|Mobile Using that old kernel?
20:44 dproldan fixed by motorola,  for the sleepanalisys I guess
20:45 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh neat
20:45 CEnnis91|Mobile And im guess you just unpacked settings.apk?
20:45 CEnnis91|Mobile Anything unusual?
20:46 dproldan I resigned all the system packages,  because I wanted to add AcountsandSyncSettings.apk
20:47 CEnnis91|Mobile Testkeys?
20:47 dproldan yep
20:47 dproldan probably not a good idea,  but...
20:48 CEnnis91|Mobile Nah should be fine lol
20:48 CEnnis91|Mobile Not much choice
20:49 dproldan I made a script to extract, resign,  etc  all the involved apks
20:49 CEnnis91|Mobile Btw i made an app that issues toast notifications from cmdline
20:49 CEnnis91|Mobile If you want that for anything
20:50 CEnnis91|Mobile You just resigned the apps you modified right?
20:50 dproldan nice,  could be used for short instructions for new installations
20:50 CEnnis91|Mobile Or did you need to do all of them?
20:50 CEnnis91|Mobile Exactly, and i have another use for it too
20:50 dproldan you need to resign all the apps with "system" uid
20:51 CEnnis91|Mobile But im not sharing yet ;)
20:51 CEnnis91|Mobile That idea
20:51 dproldan k :-)
20:51 CEnnis91|Mobile Errr resign with system uid?
20:51 CEnnis91|Mobile What does that mean
20:53 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh also how are you keeping wifi on, just using the proper menu in settings? I briefly remember you talking bout some hack
20:53 dproldan apks have different permissions, depending on their UID,  apks with same UID need to be signed with the same key
20:54 dproldan take a look at packages.xml
20:54 CEnnis91|Mobile Oh bummer i gotcha now
20:54 CEnnis91|Mobile Yeah definitely gotta script that
20:55 dproldan for wifi,  yes ,  they hardcoded a timeout of 60 seconds
20:55 CEnnis91|Mobile What did you do to fix it then?
20:55 CEnnis91|Mobile Or rather where does the fix lie
20:56 dproldan http://forum.xda-developers.com/show​post.php?p=28603063&postcount=60
20:57 CEnnis91|Mobile Thx alright off break ill bbl
20:58 CEnnis91|Mobile Only 10 min?
20:59 dproldan heh,  you want to do somehting longer on a watch?
21:00 dproldan maybe if we find how to show the wifi icon on the status bar,  we can make it permanent
21:00 dproldan to much risk ATM that you can forget the wifi on
21:00 dproldan IMO
21:01 CEnnis91|Mobile Download a ROM updates perhaps
21:02 CEnnis91|Mobile I'll have to look a this
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21:27 dproldan ok,  I got a simple headset to appear in the bt scan results
21:28 dproldan still doesn't want to connect
21:28 CEnnis91|Mobile Id expect the bt binaries to not work
21:28 CEnnis91|Mobile Thats what tansoftware has been modifying
21:30 dproldan I'm not sure
21:31 dproldan look at framework.jar
21:31 dproldan plenty of profiles there
21:31 dproldan pan, hid, hs, ad2p,  gatt, dun
21:32 CEnnis91|Mobile But i thought you need compat binaries
21:34 dproldan there are some "doesClassMatch" conditions in Settings.apk
21:34 dproldan it will only allow you to pair with ad2p devices,  because that's what will appear in the list
21:35 dproldan but I think the bluetooth stack is juts the standard android 2.3.4
21:36 CEnnis91|Mobile Probably
21:39 dproldan ok,  now a BT keyboard shows on the list too
21:40 CEnnis91|Mobile But does it work
21:43 dproldan nope,  pin doesn't match
21:43 dproldan it's probably sending a generic one
21:43 dproldan also hardcoded somehwere
21:44 dproldan as there's no layout to input a pin
21:44 CEnnis91|Mobile Search for 0000 and 1234 strings
21:45 CEnnis91|Mobile In smali
21:45 dproldan yeah
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23:47 JmCourir back
23:47 JmCourir anyone here?
23:47 dproldan hi
23:47 JmCourir hi dproldan, how are y ou doing
23:48 JmCourir downloading beta 8
23:48 JmCourir :D
23:48 dproldan brainstorming here with the MotoACTV bluetooth
23:49 JmCourir nice!
23:49 JmCourir does bluetooth is working with version 8?
23:50 dproldan yes,  but the same as stock,  only for audio and sensors
23:50 JmCourir ok
23:51 dproldan I'm trying to add keyboards,  etc
23:51 JmCourir you'd like to make more with it
23:51 JmCourir i see
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23:53 dproldan JmCourir: are you using windows?
23:53 JmCourir win7 x64
23:54 JmCourir may I help you?
23:54 dproldan no,  just checking what you'd need to install the images
23:54 dproldan do you know about fastboot?
23:54 JmCourir not at all
23:54 JmCourir :s
23:55 dproldan ok,  it's just a program to flash android devices
23:55 dproldan just an executable
23:56 CEnnis91_ dproldan: i think your efforts on the Bluetooth work is fruitless atm personally
23:56 CEnnis91_ Perhaps [mbm] could explain it better
23:56 CEnnis91_ But i think you need to modify the binaries to make then work
23:56 CEnnis91_ Not androids framework
23:56 [mbm] hmm?
23:56 dproldan CEnnis91_: maybe,  but the keyboard is definitely sending keys to bluez somehow
23:57 * [mbm] scrolls up
23:57 dproldan the motoactv is waiting for a pin from the keyboard,  if I press "1111" + enter,  then the motoactv says that it can't connect
23:57 dproldan only then
23:58 CEnnis91_ dproldan: but what about to the general os?
23:58 * CEnnis91_ is thinking bluez is an app
23:59 dproldan from what I've seen,  moto only touched the things that they needed to make the motoactv work the way they wanted
23:59 JmCourir still downloading....
23:59 CEnnis91_ dproldan: yep sounds like moto
23:59 JmCourir also charging my new motoactv

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