Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-08-04

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02:46 JmCourir http://matthewsaeed.com/blog/2012/08/motoactv-n​etflix/?fb_action_ids=10100296080114976&fb_​action_types=news.publishes&fb_source=aggre​gation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
05:14 CEnnis91 ugh
05:15 CEnnis91 not sure if the existing stock roms will work right now
05:19 CEnnis91 ummm wow
05:19 CEnnis91 [mbm]: what would cause unpackbootimg to fail on the exact same boot.img once, but not the second time
05:20 CEnnis91 just a bad read?
05:20 CEnnis91 (ps scared the shit outta me)
05:21 [mbm] I suppose, although usually when a disk error happens you get something in dmesg
05:22 CEnnis91 well the first thing i saw was this: $ unpackbootimg -i boot -o unpack/
05:22 CEnnis91 BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE ��o�
05:22 CEnnis91 BOARD_KERNEL_BASE ffff8000
05:22 CEnnis91 BOARD_PAGE_SIZE -6489156
05:23 CEnnis91 then of course the ramdisk didnt extract
05:23 CEnnis91 it's supposed to be BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE
05:23 CEnnis91 BOARD_KERNEL_BASE 10000000
05:23 CEnnis91 BOARD_PAGE_SIZE 2048
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14:54 Mfinab Hi guys! Have a good week-end!
14:56 dproldan hi
14:59 Mfinab :) buying my second Motoactv right now
15:00 Mfinab do you think motorolla is about to release the v2 ?
15:00 Mfinab hope not...
15:00 dproldan nah,  don't think so
15:01 Mfinab Moto had too much things to make customer happy
15:02 dproldan I'm surprised,  I've seen no changes since the google buyout
15:03 Mfinab yeah true
15:04 Mfinab maybe Moto was about to release something very good and google decided to buy them
15:04 Mfinab Motoactv is almost at the same time that Google bought moto
15:05 dproldan also moto was/is making a wearable head computer
15:05 dproldan google is making the glass
15:05 Mfinab dproldan, did you look your email?
15:06 dproldan yep, You're Michel,  right?
15:06 Mfinab yes
15:07 Mfinab not a so big amount but at least a little something
15:07 Mfinab oupsss
15:07 JmCourir sorry was having the wrong nick name
15:07 JmCourir you probably know me better
15:08 dproldan amount?,  I only got an invitation to join circles
15:08 JmCourir you didn't receive a paypal ?
15:08 dproldan nope
15:08 JmCourir money is already sent
15:09 JmCourir oh gosh.. where did I sent this
15:09 dproldan let me check the paypal account
15:09 JmCourir your name is Daniel?
15:09 dproldan Yes
15:10 JmCourir you should have received it
15:10 dproldan oh, it's there, on second
15:11 dproldan Thanks!  I didn't receive any email about it,  but it was waiting for a confirmation
15:11 dproldan first donation ever received  :`-)
15:12 JmCourir Oh really, the first, :s
15:13 JmCourir hope you will receive more soon
15:16 JmCourir just did a little post on XDA about donation sent.. .sometimes some others will say.... well I should do too :D
15:16 dproldan :-)  thanks.
15:18 JmCourir what code do you need to know to modify motoactv?
15:19 dproldan programming language?   I don't know any of the used ones
15:20 dproldan you need "logic",  good memory,  attention.
15:20 dproldan find how to decompress the system files,  and compare them to another system
15:21 dproldan then google is your best friend
15:21 dproldan whatever you want to do,  somebody else has done it before,  with luck it's documented
15:22 JmCourir ok
15:23 JmCourir it's probably very time consuming though
15:23 dproldan yes,  definitely.   there are some programs (kitchens) that help you a bit,  they're for windows
15:24 dproldan http://forum.xda-developers.​com/showthread.php?t=633246
15:25 JmCourir thanks will take a look
15:26 dproldan http://forum.xda-developers.​com/showthread.php?t=1189971
15:26 dproldan with these,  it's easy to change things like the user interface, etc
15:27 JmCourir thank you,
15:27 JmCourir I have a big week-end, I wont be there so much
15:27 JmCourir have to go to about 1h ride from  here
15:28 JmCourir will be back tomorrow
15:28 JmCourir now I'll go for a jog and come back in about an hour
16:29 JmCourir back
16:32 JmCourir hmm
16:32 JmCourir motoactv doesn't sync my training via wifi
16:32 JmCourir Network error, internet connection is not available
16:32 JmCourir hmm
16:48 JmCourir well... wasn't easy so much... had to reboot, re-sync, took like 5min to upload a little run of 30min.
16:53 dproldan strange
16:54 JmCourir yeah, buying another one, will not touch the rom to make some more test about it
16:54 JmCourir I'll receive the unit probably next wednesday
16:55 dproldan maybe too much people syncyng at the same time,  I've think I've read about how unreliable is the motocast thing
16:55 dproldan you buying directly in Canada, or from the US?
16:56 JmCourir from someone esle that is selling is unit
16:56 JmCourir http://mfinab.dyndns.org:8​000/20120804-mt5-58kb.jpg
16:58 dproldan missing some GPS data?  does it show correctly in the map view?
16:58 JmCourir yes
16:58 JmCourir only altitude
16:59 JmCourir at 12 min it seems like something happened
17:00 JmCourir well I have a competition on a running event, will test it there
17:00 JmCourir tomorrow
17:00 JmCourir 10k
17:24 JmCourir ok see you later,  have to go here
17:25 JmCourir bye bye, have fun this week-end
18:11 RixiM_ has anyone tried building from the motorola sources?
18:12 dproldan mbm compiled the kernel,  but it's a very old version
18:13 dproldan I haven't heard about anybody trying to compile the whole android system
18:13 RixiM I a building a custom app that will be the only thing running, should I just use the newest generic android?
18:14 RixiM my thinking was start with what they have have and remove stuff as needed... I half assumed they distributed something that worked without too much effort.
18:15 dproldan the stock ROMs have almost everything from a standard android,  a few things like audio, bluetooth,  etc have been modified by moto
18:16 dproldan does your app work in a Stock ROM?
18:16 [mbm] it'd be technically possible to compile the whole android and get something like jellybean running, I just don't particularly see a point
18:17 dproldan Google now seems like a good idea for a watch,  actually
18:18 dproldan that's "google Now"
18:18 [mbm] not sure how well those cards would show up on the tiny moto screen
18:18 dproldan yep,  that's another story
18:19 dproldan but the idea some interesting info appearing without needing to search for it is nice
18:19 dproldan we can always resize things slightly
18:20 dproldan ok,  I'm going to try to compile it
18:20 dproldan :-)
18:29 dproldan wow
18:29 dproldan what happened last week?  http://sourceforge.net/projects/mot​oactv.motorola/files/stats/timeline
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19:20 RixiM I don't know yet, i haven't written the app yet :D
19:20 RixiM dproldan: that might be me... :D
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19:40 dproldan RixiM: most programs are working fine,   if it's not very specific,  I would try it with the stock ROM first,  and then remove what you don't need
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20:47 dproldan [mbm]: those instructions from motorola are for building only the kernel, right?
20:47 dproldan why would the say this:  BOARD_HAVE_BLUETOOTH_BCM=true
20:48 dproldan BCM is for BroadCom,  but the motoactv uses the TI chip
21:28 CEnnis91 because moto sucks
21:29 CEnnis91 dproldan: also, google now requires wifi
21:30 dproldan permanent wifi?
21:30 dproldan they released off-line voice recoginition,
21:30 CEnnis91 the usefulness in google now is in it's ability to react to your situation and look up information before you ask it so you dont have to
21:31 CEnnis91 does the motoactv have a microphone?
21:31 CEnnis91 oh it must for the bt calls right?
21:31 dproldan it has no internal mic,  you have audio input with BT or the hedset jack
21:32 CEnnis91 oh
21:32 dproldan you're right about the usefulness without wifi disminishes
21:32 CEnnis91 there's plenty of things we can port to this thing
21:32 CEnnis91 thats not the problem, its the usefullness of it being ported is the issue
21:34 dproldan Have you used AirDroid?
21:34 CEnnis91 no havent even heard of it
21:34 dproldan that thing is usefull
21:34 * CEnnis91 hasnt really used the motoactv at all
21:34 CEnnis91 looking now
21:35 CEnnis91 oh, computer client?
21:35 CEnnis91 turn off
21:35 dproldan no client necessary,  thats the best thing,  motoactv acts for me as a pendrive,  wherever you go,  you can share
21:36 CEnnis91 oh its usb?
21:36 * CEnnis91 pays attention for real
21:36 CEnnis91 was just looking at the vid
21:36 dproldan hehe,  works over wifi,  it's a web server,  but realy nicely done
21:37 CEnnis91 but now you gotta keep wifi on!
21:37 CEnnis91 lol
21:37 dproldan when you need to use it!
21:37 CEnnis91 i think i have a solution for that thou
21:37 CEnnis91 i dont think you implemented that into your rom
21:37 CEnnis91 let me actually install this and see
21:38 CEnnis91 dproldan: how much of preinstall do you use?
21:39 CEnnis91 in your rom
21:39 dproldan let me check
21:39 CEnnis91 i can probably get a way with not flashing it
21:39 CEnnis91 no?
21:40 dproldan sure,  I just use it to inlcude some programs in the rom,  when theyre in preinstall,  users can uninstall themm  upgrade,  etc
21:40 CEnnis91 gotcha
21:41 CEnnis91 couldnt get away with not wping thou
21:41 CEnnis91 probably cuz of the resigning
21:50 CEnnis91 dproldan: did you mod the launcher to display the apps better?
21:50 dproldan yep
21:50 CEnnis91 wat did you do
21:50 CEnnis91 scaled better?
21:51 dproldan no,  changed the number of columns displayed
21:51 CEnnis91 lol well that was easy
21:51 CEnnis91 oh i see you didnt use that circle battery mod
21:51 dproldan also resized the house icon size
21:51 CEnnis91 thank you for not using it
21:52 CEnnis91 no browser?
21:52 dproldan preinstalled boat
21:53 CEnnis91 lol damn
21:57 dproldan going to sleep,  night
21:57 CEnnis91 night

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