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16:30 stoudamire Anyone online?
16:33 JmCourir hi
16:33 JmCourir yes
16:34 stoudamire Not sure, if you can help me.
16:34 stoudamire I´ve got a problem with getting an ADB and fastboot connection.
16:34 JmCourir have you installed adb in your computer first?
16:35 stoudamire Yes. The funny thing is that I have used fastboot and adb with my Motoactv before.
16:35 stoudamire ADB and fastboot are also working with my other devices.
16:35 JmCourir have you check the debug usb mode feature on ?
16:36 stoudamire I´m currently on stock so I cannot enable it.
16:36 JmCourir hmmm are y ou sure?
16:36 stoudamire Quite sure.
16:37 stoudamire Otherwise you know a way how to do it ... :-)
16:37 JmCourir your right I just check here on my stock one
16:37 JmCourir have you upgrade your motoactv to 7.12 ?
16:39 JmCourir if you did, it may be the reason,..  maybe not... sorry I'm not good enough to go further withyou... CEnnis91 is very good
16:39 JmCourir if he's here
16:40 stoudamire I´m one 1.7.10, but that´s the most recent version.
16:40 stoudamire 1.7.12 is only available if you have 1.7.11 installed.
16:40 JmCourir no it's not the latest version
16:41 JmCourir yep, you need to make 7.11 first to go to 12
16:41 stoudamire :-) Not possible.
16:41 JmCourir how come not possible?
16:42 stoudamire There are two software versions for the MotoACTV. One with golf functionality and one without it. These are 1.7.10 and 1.7.11. You can only update to 1.7.12 when you are on 1.7.11.
16:44 stoudamire See also here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho​wthread.php?p=30446960#post30446960
16:44 stoudamire The comment from dproldan.
16:44 JmCourir weird
16:44 stoudamire I´m quite sure the problem is not related to the firmware version as it functioned before.
16:45 stoudamire Anyway, thanks for trying to help.
16:46 JmCourir sometimes
16:46 JmCourir dproldan is here
16:46 JmCourir just hang in here
16:46 stoudamire yeah, i was hoping to catch him or cennis
16:47 JmCourir i think they changed some things on workout
16:48 JmCourir I can now change musics while making a workout on version 12
16:49 stoudamire That is possible since I bought my device in March.
16:49 JmCourir will go back outside to make the test
16:50 stoudamire You can long press the music button for a faster switch between the workout and the music app.
16:50 JmCourir oh really
16:51 stoudamire :-)
16:52 stoudamire There are a few shortcuts.
16:53 stoudamire For instance, a double tap on the music button will make the device skip to the next song.
16:55 JmCourir it does not in workout mode
16:55 JmCourir a double tap on the music button doesn't change anything in workout mode
16:58 stoudamire It works for me.
16:58 JmCourir in workout mode?
16:58 JmCourir are you on stock mode or dprom ?
16:58 stoudamire stock
16:59 JmCourir oh maybe that's why
16:59 stoudamire Yeah, that might be true as he changed some button functions.
16:59 JmCourir :(
17:00 JmCourir maybe I should come back to stock mode
17:00 JmCourir but the thing is ... I really like to do ..
17:00 JmCourir http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho​wthread.php?p=30448469#post30448469
17:00 stoudamire That´s the reason why I want to root again. :-)
17:00 JmCourir I see now
17:01 JmCourir hmmm are we able to root 7.12 ?
17:01 stoudamire I rooted my device before but there were no benefits for me as I´m using it only to workout.
17:01 JmCourir same here stoudamire
17:02 JmCourir I dont really use dprom
17:02 JmCourir :s
17:02 JmCourir I dont see anything I could do with it
17:02 JmCourir :s
17:02 stoudamire Rooting 1.7.12 should be no problem.
17:02 stoudamire You can use Anyroot from Cennis.
17:03 stoudamire I can´t without fastboot. :-(
17:03 JmCourir oh :s
17:04 JmCourir how come ?
17:04 JmCourir did you changed something?
17:04 stoudamire Actually not.
17:05 stoudamire Tried several things.
17:05 JmCourir I do have a Motoactv with new 7.12
17:05 JmCourir unrooted
17:05 JmCourir Can I make a copy of it to put it on the other device?
17:06 stoudamire Do you have two MotoACTVs?
17:06 JmCourir yes
17:06 stoudamire :-)
17:07 JmCourir I like this toy so much
17:07 stoudamire Why do you want to make a copy?
17:08 JmCourir to come back to stock to enjoy music shortcut again
17:09 stoudamire So, you want to unroot your device.
17:09 stoudamire That´s easy.
17:09 stoudamire check out this thread from cennis: http://forum.xda-developers.​com/showthread.php?t=1534073
17:09 JmCourir I have on my first motoactv the dprom version but would like to have the v.12 with  volume shortcuts again
17:10 stoudamire You can also change the button functionality and stay with dprom.
17:10 JmCourir how to change button ?
17:10 JmCourir inworkout mode?
17:11 stoudamire http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home#Apps
17:12 stoudamire go to 5.2
17:12 stoudamire and download the Motoactv easy modder
17:12 JmCourir ok
17:12 stoudamire it allows you to change the button functions
17:13 JmCourir jeezzz... will try that
17:13 JmCourir thank you mate
17:15 stoudamire No problem.
17:15 JmCourir hmmm
17:16 JmCourir it says that I can remap buttons to stock
17:16 JmCourir reset to stock... but am I gonna be able to go back to another laucher ? hmm
17:16 JmCourir *launcher
17:17 stoudamire No, but you can save button savior.
17:17 stoudamire And I thought you can remap the buttons your own way.
17:18 JmCourir this is what I can do
17:18 JmCourir http://mfinab.dyndns.org:8​000/20120820-k00-72kb.jpg
17:18 JmCourir brb2
17:19 stoudamire ah, okay
17:19 stoudamire there is a possibility to do it manually
17:20 stoudamire someone explained it in the long thread at XDA
17:23 JmCourir oh.. that would interest me
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17:27 CEnnis91 stoudamire: i think JmCourir wants something that's not available yet
17:28 JmCourir yes the 7.12 :) CEnnis91
17:28 CEnnis91 im not sure what moto is doing with those releases
17:28 JmCourir rooted and dprom with music shortcuts available like in stock mode
17:28 JmCourir like dproldan said, big changes are made in 7.12 in workout mode
17:29 JmCourir and also a new apk as been made to export data ... i'm so happy about that
17:29 JmCourir My request as been listened
17:29 JmCourir :D
17:29 CEnnis91 lemme run the soap checker
17:29 JmCourir soap checker?
17:29 stoudamire Cennis: Have you seen my post about the ADB/fastboot problem
17:30 CEnnis91 i can check motos soap code to see what they have available for update
17:30 CEnnis91 stoudamire: dont think so, link?
17:30 stoudamire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?​t=1399692&highlight=remapping&page=273
17:30 stoudamire last post
17:30 stoudamire I´m getting frustrated.
17:31 CEnnis91 what's the version code for 1.7.10
17:31 stoudamire :-)
17:31 JmCourir :( stoudamire
17:31 CEnnis91 blur version
17:31 CEnnis91 stoudamire: diff usb port?
17:31 CEnnis91 it's dumb, but it has fixed the issue in the past
17:32 stoudamire I checked all available ones.
17:32 stoudamire I also checked to get it running on another PC.
17:32 CEnnis91 JmCourir: do you have root?
17:33 CEnnis91 stoudamire: or can you check the blur version in build.prop?
17:33 JmCourir I have 2x motoactv. .. one is rooted and the other running 7.12
17:33 CEnnis91 JmCourir: cat /system/build.prop in adb
17:33 JmCourir ok
17:33 CEnnis91 and then upload the result
17:33 CEnnis91 i hate moto's versioning
17:33 CEnnis91 i never remember what is what
17:34 JmCourir wich motoactv you want that info?
17:34 JmCourir 7.12 ?
17:34 JmCourir 7.12 is not root
17:34 CEnnis91 right, but moto has a blur_version
17:34 CEnnis91 JmCourir: either one
17:34 JmCourir ok
17:35 JmCourir Android Debug Bridge Version 1.0.26 ?
17:35 JmCourir is that what you want?
17:35 stoudamire Cennis: How can I access the build.prop without root?
17:35 CEnnis91 JmCourir: no
17:35 CEnnis91 "adb shell"
17:35 CEnnis91 "cat /system/build.prop"
17:36 CEnnis91 stoudamire: if you had a file manager you could check it
17:36 stoudamire I reverted back to stock
17:36 CEnnis91 oh
17:36 stoudamire no root, no file manager
17:36 CEnnis91 damn
17:36 stoudamire yes :-)
17:36 CEnnis91 it sounds like a driver issue tbh
17:36 stoudamire Can it be somehow related to usb debugging?
17:37 CEnnis91 even if you removed it, sometimes certain things arent removed
17:37 CEnnis91 stoudamire: not if fastboot is affected
17:37 CEnnis91 fastboot is not affected by usb debugging
17:37 stoudamire right
17:38 stoudamire I have no idea what else I can do.
17:38 JmCourir CEnnis91, http://mfinab.dyndns.org:8​000/20120820-e1l-167kb.jpg
17:38 JmCourir http://mfinab.dyndns.org:8​000/20120820-ps9-169kb.jpg
17:39 CEnnis91 JmCourir: thats with 1.7.10 right?
17:39 JmCourir yes
17:39 JmCourir Blur_version 5.7.20
17:39 CEnnis91 0.o
17:40 CEnnis91 something does look broken
17:40 JmCourir your talking to stoudamire ?
17:41 CEnnis91 no
17:41 stoudamire I am quite sure not.
17:41 CEnnis91 you
17:41 JmCourir broken?
17:41 CEnnis91 the update code for that version doesnt exist
17:42 CEnnis91 haha
17:42 JmCourir hmmm I don't undestand now...
17:42 CEnnis91 wow
17:42 CEnnis91 okay i have to make a phone call
17:42 CEnnis91 ill explain in a second
17:42 JmCourir ok
17:42 stoudamire :-)
17:42 JmCourir you do stoudamire ?
17:42 stoudamire Sorry?
17:42 JmCourir CEnnis91, I gave you the version of dprom 8.1 beta
17:43 JmCourir nevermine... I dont have a clue what CEnnis91 has found.
17:43 JmCourir now I have to go here :s
17:43 JmCourir working again
17:45 JmCourir he seems to have found something wrong with my device :/
17:45 JmCourir but I dont know what...
17:48 JmCourir CEnnis91, please explain to me
17:48 stoudamire I was just laughing because always when I am here someone finds sth which Motorola messed up
17:49 JmCourir hehe that's good
17:50 JmCourir well I really have to go now ...
17:50 JmCourir hope CEnnis91 will explain... will see it when I'll be back home
17:50 JmCourir ok see you guys later, have fun
17:52 CEnnis91 lol just missed him?
17:52 CEnnis91 lol
17:52 JmCourir oh
17:52 JmCourir im there
17:52 CEnnis91 okay
17:52 JmCourir but have to go quick
17:52 JmCourir lol
17:52 JmCourir listening to you :)
17:52 CEnnis91 it called soap code
17:52 CEnnis91 its what is parsed when motoactv goes to update
17:53 CEnnis91 and we are able to pull it through certain commands
17:53 CEnnis91 its actually how the device was rooted initally
17:53 CEnnis91 but i still use it to check for updates
17:53 stoudamire Cennis: One questions: When you are in fastboot how is the MotoACTV displayed in the windows device manager?
17:53 CEnnis91 when i put in the 5.7.22 (which is the 1.7.11) you get this
17:54 CEnnis91 http://pastebin.com/az0jpiTz
17:54 JmCourir so 5.7.24 would be 1.7.12 ?
17:54 CEnnis91 but when i put in the 5.7.20 which is 1.7.10
17:54 CEnnis91 (yes 5.7.24 = 1.7.12
17:54 CEnnis91 )
17:55 JmCourir interesting
17:55 CEnnis91 http://pastebin.com/uTDPDFzW
17:55 JmCourir what is that gonna do ?
17:55 JmCourir now that you have found this
17:55 CEnnis91 notice how that displays absolutely nothing
17:55 CEnnis91 something is definitely broken with that blur_verison
17:56 CEnnis91 gotta update dproldan
17:56 JmCourir ok... not so sure to understand what it will do in future .. :s
17:56 stoudamire You cannot do anything.
17:56 JmCourir of course not me
17:56 JmCourir but them
17:57 [mbm] .
17:57 JmCourir it's gonna help them to make another rom version?
17:57 stoudamire Not really.
17:57 CEnnis91 [mbm]: did you see the pastebins?
17:57 CEnnis91 moto fucked up somewhere
17:58 JmCourir ok CEnnis91  are you saying that they have moved a file somewhere else and now something is wrong
17:59 JmCourir jsut trying to understand... hehe
17:59 CEnnis91 not totally sure, im not that familiar with soap code and this kinda stuff
17:59 JmCourir but it's ok .
17:59 CEnnis91 i only know the basics =)
17:59 JmCourir ok i see
17:59 JmCourir really have to go here
17:59 JmCourir see you guys later
17:59 JmCourir bye bye
18:00 CEnnis91 alright cya
18:00 stoudamire cennis: Could you have a look at my question?
18:00 CEnnis91 stoudamire: not sure, but it should still pop up
18:01 stoudamire yes, it pops up
18:01 CEnnis91 run cmdprompt in administrator?
18:02 stoudamire In the device manager it pops up as motorola usb device and Motorola flash interface.
18:04 CEnnis91 and what happens when you type fastboot devices in cmd?
18:05 stoudamire nothing
18:05 stoudamire just tried it running as adminstrator
18:11 [mbm] CEnnis91: fucked up how?
18:12 CEnnis91 1.7.11: http://pastebin.com/az0jpiTz / 1.7.10: http://pastebin.com/uTDPDFzW
18:12 CEnnis91 and there is a 1.7.12 release that only 1.7.11 can receive
18:14 stoudamire Is there a possibility to hard reset the Motoactv?
18:15 [mbm] stoudamire: reflash it
18:15 stoudamire Impossible.
18:15 stoudamire Fastboot and adb are not working.
18:16 CEnnis91 [mbm]: win7 / basically drivers are messed up from the sounds of it
18:16 stoudamire I already uninstalled all motorola stuff and reinstalled it twice.
18:16 [mbm] adb only works when booted; fastboot only works if you hold the right hotkey at bootup
18:16 stoudamire I know. Both is not working
18:17 [mbm] does it say fastboot on the screen?
18:17 stoudamire yes
18:18 [mbm] then it's a driver or cable issue :P
18:20 CEnnis91 ugh my external hdd is starting to be too full
18:20 CEnnis91 only 100gb left
18:20 stoudamire I am so fucking stupid ...
18:21 CEnnis91 forgot to connect it? =)
18:21 stoudamire No, but close to that.
18:25 stoudamire That´s so embarrasing. I always put the in bootloader mode instead of fastboot. I was sure it was volume up and power. :-)
18:25 stoudamire Unbelievable how much time this mistake costed me.
18:26 stoudamire The screens loke basically the same. :-)
18:27 stoudamire Sorry guys for bothering you with my stupidity.
18:31 CEnnis91 lol nbd
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18:42 stoudamire Has my remapping question been posted?
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20:49 dproldan CEnnis91: fyi,  anyRoot works fine with 1.7.12
21:00 CEnnis91 dproldan: looks like you were right
21:00 CEnnis91 dproldan: moto seems to have made a mistake
21:00 CEnnis91 there is no soap code for 1.7.10
21:00 CEnnis91 but there is for 1.7.11
21:01 dproldan yeah,  let's see how they handle this mess
21:15 nhat what's soap and what mistake is there? adding golf software into the non-golf device?
21:15 JmCourir-At-Work hey :)
21:16 dproldan nhat: yes,  they allow an update from a non-golf to a golf version,  but golf version is not allowed to update
21:16 nhat did you ever find a 1.7.11 rom?
21:17 dproldan I flashed the factory images I had an upgraded from them
21:17 JmCourir-At-Work Hey guys ! ... I really like my toy here :D hope it's the same for you :) ....... dproldan, I notice that the stock version has the possibility to change music with music button while workout mode. :)
21:18 dproldan JmCourir-At-Work: yes,  the music button is modified by me,  to be used as "menu"
21:19 dproldan this is not a bug,  but a feature of our custom roms
21:19 JmCourir-At-Work dproldan, ohh I see now...
21:19 JmCourir-At-Work dproldan: how are you gonna handle this to put back the workout (shortcut button) available ?
21:20 dproldan there are many conbinations possible,  each person has a preference,  but the thing is we don't have enough buttons to do all the things we want
21:21 dproldan do you use double-pressing the power button to acces the launchers?
21:21 dproldan I think the "menu" button is a must,  because it allows us to access the apps drawer very fast
21:22 JmCourir-At-Work I do yes dproldan
21:22 dproldan CEnnis is designing  a method to change the buttons easily,  we should wait and see
21:23 CEnnis91 we can only hope he does =)
21:24 JmCourir-At-Work ok
21:24 dproldan or you can install a program called "Button Savior",  it creates some virtual button,  they auto-hide and such
21:24 JmCourir-At-Work is there any other way to get to the laucher without double press power button?
21:25 dproldan yes,  I was thinking of using double-press for the men
21:25 dproldan
21:25 dproldan "menu" button,  from the apps drawer you can launch any launcher
21:25 dproldan and to go back to stock launcher,  you can always press the "start" button
21:26 JmCourir-At-Work could you make fourth press for menu?
21:26 JmCourir-At-Work or five press?
21:27 dproldan you can actually launch an app with four-press,  don't know if I can make it a mapping for the "menu"
21:27 JmCourir-At-Work normally shortcut button for music is : 1 press = play/pause 2 press = next music 3 press = restart the song 4 press = rewind to previous song
21:27 dproldan oh,  I see what you mean
21:28 JmCourir-At-Work this is from stock
21:28 JmCourir-At-Work the fifth press could be the menu
21:29 dproldan I'm not sure if that's possible,  adding a new "mapping",  but we can modify the existing
21:29 dproldan maybe the 3 presses?  seems less useful
21:29 JmCourir-At-Work ok
21:30 JmCourir-At-Work agree with you that the 3 press isn't so useful
21:30 JmCourir-At-Work it would be a nice place to map the menu button without touching other shortcuts
21:30 JmCourir-At-Work have to run here :/  store is closing
21:30 dproldan ok
21:30 JmCourir-At-Work see y ou later !! :) thanks
21:31 JmCourir-At-Work my other jmcourir will log if you write something :)
21:31 JmCourir-At-Work ok bye bye now
21:31 dproldan bye
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