Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #motoactv, 2012-11-10

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14:18 kermit136 Hi!
14:19 kermit136 I'm newbie of motoactv world
14:19 kermit136 but,
14:20 kermit136 I would like to root my device
14:21 kermit136 firmware: 4.57.71
14:23 kermit136 it seems to me that the procedure does not work with this fw
14:26 kermit136 can I help you in any way?
14:29 kermit136 (I'm a developer, I have some experience in embedded programming)
14:31 kermit136 (and android ..)
14:32 SpeedEvil wow. someone talked!
14:32 SpeedEvil only traffic in the last week, alas
14:32 SpeedEvil I joined after wondering about getting one.
14:33 SpeedEvil as it shares processor with my phone (n900)
14:37 kermit136 I'm an italian startupper, (1/1000)
14:37 kermit136 we develop app for tourism
14:38 kermit136 hiking and things like that
14:38 kermit136 ..for iOS and android
14:40 kermit136 an investor asked us to develop apps for smartwatch
14:42 kermit136 to monitor the heart rate of horses in the endurance races
14:43 kermit136 (sorry for my english)
14:45 kermit136 after a very little research I found this wonderful device
14:47 kermit136 (cheap and root-able)
14:50 kermit136 but my fw is not compliant with the hack, can you suggest me where to start ?
14:51 kermit136 What are you working on?
14:54 SpeedEvil basically, I was wondering about it as a constantly worn device
14:55 SpeedEvil to do heart rate monitoring, and ...
14:55 SpeedEvil horse heart rates - interesting.
14:55 SpeedEvil blood oxygen saturation too?
14:56 kermit136 use the data for training and improving performance
14:57 kermit136 so any other sensors data are useful
14:59 kermit136 the profiling features ble seems to be interesting in this kind of thing
14:59 SpeedEvil the sensors are just connected over Bluetooth
15:00 kermit136 yes
15:00 SpeedEvil they are unlikely to work at all for horses.
15:00 kermit136 what do you mean?
15:01 SpeedEvil the heart rate sensors for humans will not work at all for horses
15:01 kermit136 but the profile is configurable
15:02 SpeedEvil horses have coats.
15:02 kermit136 (a fellow is working on it)
15:02 SpeedEvil the coat is an insulator electrically, and even if you modify he human sensor so it straps against the horses chest, it almost certainly won't work.
15:02 kermit136 ops
15:03 SpeedEvil if you read the manual of the sensors, it says it must be worn against skin
15:03 kermit136 I forgot one thing
15:04 kermit136 now I'll explain
15:05 kermit136 will be a saddle specially produced by the investor
15:05 kermit136 (sorry)
15:06 SpeedEvil if you mean you're going to be producing a whole device, ##electronics may be useful to ask on
15:08 SpeedEvil the profiling stuff is just an app. there would seem little reason to tie it to hardware you need to hack, not use open stuff.
15:09 kermit136 no, motoactv used to display and manage data
15:10 kermit136 il lavoro sporco viene fatto da un altro dispositivo
15:10 kermit136 ops
15:11 kermit136 the dirty work is done by another device
15:11 SpeedEvil it seems a poorly chosen platform, likely to be cancelled.
15:11 SpeedEvil you really want an app that is hardware agnostic
15:16 kermit136 but it's cheap, develop an embedded system is very expensive
15:18 kermit136 have any device to propose?
15:18 kermit136 (arduino ??)
15:18 kermit136 :)
15:28 SpeedEvil there is no reason to not use any android device
15:29 SpeedEvil if you have Bluetooth sensors, you an talk to it from almost any platform
15:31 kermit136 that it's true
15:32 kermit136 we need to save battery (long time)
15:33 kermit136 ble is supported only on
15:33 kermit136 expensive android device
15:34 kermit136 (moreover unsuitable)
15:35 kermit136 it is at least 12 hours of training
15:44 kermit136 In short, a smartphone is not suitable (for a commercial product)
15:45 kermit136 what do you think?
16:00 SpeedEvil if you don't need the screen on, 12h should be quite doable with Bluetooth
16:01 SpeedEvil if the sensor can queue the data, there is no limit at all
16:03 kermit136 (queue the data?) the sensor can't write data
16:05 kermit136 do you have any example of a device for our purposes?
16:07 SpeedEvil the sensor stores the data, for later reading
16:07 kermit136 whitch sensor_
16:07 kermit136 ?
16:07 SpeedEvil also ##android-dev and ##electronics as well as #edev
16:07 SpeedEvil the saddle sensor you're designing
16:10 kermit136 not me, an engineer
16:10 kermit136 a fellow
16:10 SpeedEvil well, yes
16:15 kermit136 however,do you know any android device
16:16 kermit136 with an 'appropriate' shape
16:17 kermit136 ?
16:19 kermit136 (cheap)
16:30 kermit136 thanks for your help
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