Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #november-wiki, 2008-09-16

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09:23 masak joined #november-wiki
11:44 masak joined #november-wiki
14:12 [particle] joined #november-wiki
14:12 masak :)
14:12 [particle] :D
14:13 masak no-one here but the logger, though.
14:13 masak usually moritz_++ is here too, and sometimes viklund
14:13 masak we haven't been able to lure our russian friends here
14:14 [particle] someday.
14:14 [particle] i see the posts from them in the group, which i've just joined
14:14 masak I can understand their hesitation, I sometimes hang out on #ubuntu-cn
14:15 masak I'm strictly lurking there, as I simply wouldn't be able to keep up in conversation
14:15 [particle] yeah, some channels are too popular
14:15 [particle] that's not your problem
14:15 masak no.
14:15 masak it's the language barrier
14:16 [particle] da.
14:17 masak да. :)
14:17 * masak loves Emacs and LEIM
14:18 [particle] i wish pidgin supported irc-via-screen
14:19 [particle] i don't care so much about unicode, as i'm in the usa ;)
14:19 masak [particle]: watch it, I'm op here :)
14:19 masak and I'm not from the USA...
14:19 [particle] :)
14:20 [particle] hrmm, looks like you're not an op here, unless my client is acting up
14:20 masak there.
14:20 [particle] ah, there you go
14:20 masak we need a bot here, that would help a lot
14:20 masak hold on.
14:21 zarah joined #november-wiki
14:21 masak hi
14:21 zarah hi masak
14:21 masak zarah: you're the cute one!
14:21 zarah masak: no, YOU are the cute one! :)
14:21 masak zarah: aww, shut up. :)
14:21 zarah masak: :)
14:21 [particle] botsnack
14:21 [particle] ah well :(
14:22 masak I should have her respond to that
14:22 masak I learned about it today
14:22 masak hold on (any excuse not to work)
14:22 [particle] hee
14:23 [particle] also, botbeer :)
14:23 masak oki
14:25 masak @update
14:25 zarah joined #november-wiki
14:25 masak botsnack
14:25 zarah ;)
14:26 masak botbeer
14:26 zarah ;)
14:26 masak zarah++
14:27 [particle] zarah++
14:27 [particle] masak++ work--
14:27 masak :)
14:28 masak actually, more of studies-- right now
14:28 masak I'm supposed to know 31 chinese words till Thursday
14:28 [particle] heh
14:28 [particle] all the same character?
14:28 [particle] ;)
14:28 masak you wish
14:28 masak :)
14:29 masak most of them two characters, except the ones that are three or four
14:29 masak non-simplified.
14:35 [particle] did i break the wiki? http://www.november-wiki.org/cgi-bin/w?page=FAQ
14:36 masak no, looks good
14:36 [particle] oh, hrmm, it's fine, but i was getting 500 on edit
14:36 masak 'cept that external links don't work yet
14:36 masak nice try, though
14:36 [particle] ah
14:36 masak expect extlinks working later this week
14:36 masak for now, just leave them as text :(
14:38 [particle] there, FAQ updated
14:38 masak [particle]++
14:39 masak I think the syntax for external links will be [http://example.com example], by the way
14:39 masak following MediaWiki's example
14:41 masak (actually, the plan is to support ridiculously many markups, but MediaWiki's is my first target)
14:41 masak are you editing Main_Page? otherwise, I'll remove the "Bug-list" link now, and replace the "Editing_Test_Page" with "Sandbox"
14:41 [particle] ok, that's sane
14:41 [particle] go ahead
14:42 [particle] i'll update FAQ
14:42 masak great!
14:42 masak this is so much more fun than learning words!
14:45 [particle] it is fun!
14:45 [particle] i'd like to update the css and make it pretty.
14:46 [particle] but i need to figure out how to install git natively on windows first
14:47 masak either that, or download without git via guthub, and send patches
14:47 masak your solution is the long-term one, mine the sort-term
14:48 masak s/sort/short/
14:56 masak it's interesting to note that github, Google Groups, and now Trac -- all three provide built-in wikis in their project management :)
14:57 masak all three of which deserve a comment along the lines of "this is not the November wiki we're building"
14:57 [particle] true :)
16:01 [particle] somehow none of the links on faq are working now :(
16:02 masak no, that's because external links don't work yet
16:02 masak also, the version of novmeber running on feather is several weeks old
16:03 masak there's a masak/viklund hackathon tomorrow, I will address that then
16:03 [particle] oh, when i had [[]] they at least highlighted
16:03 [particle] now they're just displaying the []. i get it
16:03 masak true, but the also invited clicking on them :)
16:03 [particle] ok, i've installed git
16:04 masak wonderful
16:04 [particle] now to figure out how to use it
16:04 masak I could give you a short tutorial, from an svn-er's perspective
16:04 masak let's say you have just made a change. you go `git status`, and it lists your file as dirty
16:05 masak you go `git add that-file`, and then `git status`, now it lists your file as added
16:05 masak you go `git commit -m "I changed stuff"` and it commits it locally
16:05 masak you go `git push` and it commits it to github
16:05 masak those are the bare basics
16:07 masak things to keep in mind: when you git-add stuff, you add not the file, but the changes made to that file since last commit/add
16:07 masak also, git-revert does not Do What You (as an svn user) Think. instead, just checkout the file again
16:14 masak http://www.kernel.org/pub/softw​are/scm/git/docs/everyday.html
16:41 [particle] i need an account at github next, i guess
16:42 masak [particle]: I'd give it to you if I had access. unfortunately, I don't.
16:42 masak a mail to viklund will do the trick, though
16:44 masak ah, sorry. misread.
16:45 masak the account you'd have to create yourself, of course.
16:45 masak with it (maybe even without it), you can download november and start hacking
16:46 masak however, to get _commit rights_, you need to be added as a committer to the project on github
16:46 masak and that's what requires an email :)
16:48 [particle] ok, i now have 'particle' as a registered user on github
16:48 [particle] time to mail viklund
16:49 masak hm, I haven't really felt his 'net presence today
16:49 masak so his reply might not be instantaneous
16:50 masak I'm about to go hunt some food now
16:50 masak [particle]: see you!

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