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IRC log for #november-wiki, 2008-12-29

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10:32 masak joined #november-wiki
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11:37 ihrd hi
11:37 zarah hi ihrd
11:59 ihrd masak: do you still have problems with apache configuration for November?
13:09 masak ihrd: I still haven't gotten it to work.
13:09 masak ihrd: hand on, I'm going to switch locations. back in 30m.
13:09 masak s/hand/hang/
13:29 masak joined #november-wiki
13:29 * masak is back
13:30 ihrd masak: sorry, I have not seen
13:31 ihrd so I what exactly wrong
13:31 ihrd what happened?
13:31 masak ihrd: when I go to http://localhost I get the Apache welcoming page
13:31 masak so, Apache works.
13:32 masak (actually it comes with Mac OS X, so that's ok)
13:32 ihrd what in your httpd.conf?
13:32 masak but when I go to http://localhost/wiki/wiki I get a 403 error.
13:32 masak ihrd: hold on, I'll nopaste it.
13:34 ihrd 403? so problem in permissons
13:34 masak aye
13:35 masak http://gist.github.com/41265
13:39 ihrd do you use your apache for something else?
13:40 masak nope.
13:40 ihrd ok, but why you wish wiki/wiki
13:41 ihrd mb just wiki enoght?
13:41 masak I thought I wanted to access the wiki script in the wiki 'directory'
13:42 masak my ScriptAlias defines the alias /wiki/
13:42 masak should I just define '/', you think?
13:43 masak what's in your httpd.conf?
13:43 ihrd and so, you need something like
13:43 ihrd RewriteEngine on
13:43 ihrd RewriteRule ^/wiki/([^\.]*)$ /november/wiki.sh [PT]
13:43 masak eh.
13:43 ihrd for delegate all wiki/* to november script
13:44 masak then what did my ScriptAlias do?
13:44 ihrd in my example it live in /november/*
13:45 masak probably /november/p6w/*, right?
13:45 masak do I need to copy my files outside of my repo?
13:45 * masak feels lost in a jungle of Apache settings
13:46 ihrd I do not use ScriptAlias, and yes I just put all I need to another dir for apache
13:47 masak that might explain why you get it to work, and I don't...
13:48 ihrd You can use something like
13:48 ihrd <Directory /path_to_your_apache_root/november/>
13:48 ihrd Options +ExecCGI
13:48 ihrd AddHandler cgi-script cgi pl sh pl6
13:48 ihrd Order allow,deny
13:48 ihrd Allow from all
13:48 ihrd </Directory>
13:49 ihrd I do not remeber exactly, but mb somrthing like
13:49 ihrd <Location /november >
13:49 ihrd Options +ExecCGI
13:49 ihrd Order allow,deny
13:49 ihrd Allow from all
13:49 ihrd </Location>
13:50 masak thanks, I'll try that.
13:51 masak what does the 'Location' directive do?
13:52 ihrd my httpd.conf have many historical  layers, so it can confuse your :)
13:52 masak (1) make it work, (2) make it less confusing :)
13:53 ihrd http://httpd.apache.org/docs​/2.0/mod/core.html#location
13:53 zarah ihrd's link is also http://tinyurl.com/dytd2
13:53 ihrd it works for my
13:54 ihrd excuse my comm lag, I just tring to do many things in parallel
13:54 masak this 'path_to_your_apache_root', where might that be?
13:56 ihrd look at your DocumentRoot directivs
13:56 masak oki
13:58 masak I can't devote much attention to testing things now, unfortunately.
13:58 masak I'm writing a scientific article with a friend.
13:58 masak anyway, I got p5w's CleanAndSoft skin working. I'm ready to port it to p6w, which should probably be fairly easy.
13:59 masak after that, I think we'll do a much-needed server-side upgrade.
13:59 ihrd I was deploy last november today and catch a lot of ugly bugs :(
13:59 masak ihrd++
13:59 masak that's why I want to get it running locally, too
13:59 ihrd we need some functionality tests
14:00 ihrd something like test for authorization, page editing etc
14:01 masak aye
14:01 masak I was thinking about that early this summer
14:01 masak maybe with some heavy-duty mocking, it'd work.
14:02 ihrd what title of your article?
14:02 masak ihrd: it's a secret. academia is a bit touchy about being first with releasing stuff.
14:04 ihrd okay
14:05 masak but we're working on this product at $work: http://www.bioclipse.net/
14:05 ihrd so do you have time to our grant propusal?
14:06 masak sure, I'll have small slices of time to discuss it.
14:06 masak not much left now before we can send it to TPF.
14:10 ihrd o, biology and chemistry soft
14:11 ihrd about grant -- do you have some question to my?
14:11 ihrd what do you need to complite it?
14:16 masak ihrd: we need to agree on salaries for everybody.
14:16 masak that's all, I think.
14:17 ihrd so, and I think we should who do what
14:17 ihrd I know what I whatn to do
14:18 ihrd but what planing Tene and you -- I do not know
14:20 masak I think I have about the same time plan as you.
14:21 masak and your $/h sounds good too.
14:21 masak we might add something about being fine with getting the money either in one lump, or in installments
14:26 ihrd I think that should be part for each month, if we done it with good result
14:26 ihrd but I do not know, hove TPF works
14:28 masak ihrd: judging from other proposals, people propose how that'll happen.
14:29 ihrd Okay, I think month installements is okay
14:30 ihrd btw, we still need to understand what part of work doing each of us
14:30 ihrd I know me limits
14:30 ihrd I think fastcgi -- reaaly necesary, but without IO in Rakudo I cant implement it
14:32 ihrd (sorry, I can use only one hand now, my sun sleep on the other)
14:32 ihrd but mb Tene can dp some work using Parrot IO
14:33 masak ihrd: (re son sleeping on arm) how cute! :)
14:34 masak ihrd: (re Tene/Parrot IO) yes, that sounds good. we should talk about that, and maybe write something about it in the proposal.
14:49 ihrd Do your speak with Tene at all? I was tring, but look like he was totaly busy.
14:50 masak haven't spoken to him in a week or so now.
15:04 masak Tene: ping
15:11 ihrd look like all your packages lost
15:13 ihrd I need to go
15:13 ihrd bb
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20:00 Tene masak: pong
20:01 masak Tene: oh hai. what do you think about the current state of the proposal?
20:01 masak we know we need to address at least two things before we send it: (1) who does what, and (2) money.
20:01 Tene link?
20:02 masak sec
20:03 masak Tene: your status is 'AWAY: Gone Forever', btw
20:03 Tene Yes, it is.
20:04 masak freenode thought it necessary to tell me that when I msg'd you just now.
20:08 Tene you don't have "building the other two web applications" on the schedule
20:11 masak we should write something about that, yes.
20:12 masak but there's the danger of promising to 'finish' them, or something equally silly.
20:12 Tene true
20:14 masak is there a stage in the life cycle of an application between 'planning' and 'stable 1.0' that we could reasonably acheive in two months' time for two web apps?
20:14 masak perhaps, 'alpha' or 'pre-alpha' or some such.
20:15 Tene I'd just say "Implement basic functionality"
20:15 masak sounds good to me. care to add that?
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