Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #november-wiki, 2009-01-21

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15:22 masak joined #november-wiki
15:22 masak viklund: oh hai
15:22 masak viklund: did you see ihrd's (first) email?
15:23 viklund yes
15:23 masak I just replied to it.
15:23 viklund I started on an answer but then yours came up
15:23 viklund oh well
15:24 masak I'm sorry he feels that way. of course no-one wants to ignore his progress.
15:24 viklund what was 'You did step backward and return hard coded html generation.' about
15:24 masak viklund: Autumn contains a few cool features, I think.
15:24 masak haven't looked.
15:26 viklund ahh, you don't care about the WEBROOT variable in your templates, that should probably be added, so links work...
15:26 masak aah
15:27 viklund his dispatcher dispatches on URI:s that look like this btw: view/NAME, edit/NAME and so forth
15:27 masak viklund: aye, and ISTR that the README contains instructions as to the rewrites.
15:28 viklund mmhm
15:28 viklund I only need to fix that
15:29 masak sounds good.
15:32 viklund http://www.november-wiki.org/
15:33 masak \o/
15:33 masak (we need caching)
15:33 masak viklund++
15:33 * masak does a little dance
15:34 viklund there are still some issues to deal with though
15:34 masak viklund: clicking 'log in' also gives the main page.
15:35 masak so does clicking any internal link.
15:35 viklund I'll start looking at ihrd's template updates and try to merge them with yours...
15:35 masak viklund: wonderful. he'll be glad.
15:35 masak er, less disappointed.
15:36 masak I'm so happy right now about how the page looks.
15:36 viklund hmm, I wonder what his improvements look like
15:36 masak viklund: hold on, I have a screenshot...
15:37 viklund great ;)
15:37 masak http://picasaweb.google.com/For​Ihrd/BwHMJK#5276675730608525266
15:37 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/8jtoua
15:38 viklund hmm
15:39 viklund nvm, I'll check it out myself...
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15:50 viklund masak: I sent an answer to irhd too...
15:50 masak checking.
15:51 masak viklund: jonalv thinks that the website is slow.
15:52 viklund pfft
15:53 viklund masak: did you implement a method for viewing history for the current page
15:53 masak I think so.
15:53 masak that should be one of the things that work.
15:53 viklund I can only find a global recent changes
15:54 masak among the links, or in the source?
15:54 viklund November.pm
15:54 masak checking.
15:54 viklund there is no method for generating the page, and no dispatch rule for it
15:54 viklund ihrd had the 8 last changes in a side-bar
15:55 masak oh, for that particular page?
15:55 masak I thought that was globally for all pages.
15:56 viklund no, the sidebar is for that page
15:56 masak generally, I'm very reluctant to "boxes" that purport to show different "info" on a page.
15:56 masak it runs directly counter to my current ideals of minimalism.
15:57 masak so I was shocked by the "tags" box, and then shocked again by the "recent changes" box... :/
15:57 viklund ;)
15:57 masak this despite the fact that I appreciate ihrd's improvements.
15:57 masak I'm sure there can be compromise somewhere.
15:58 viklund aahh, found HTML::Template bug
15:59 moritz_ since I only prototyped HTML::Template's parser, I can safely blame masak++ for any bugs :-)
15:59 viklund ;)
15:59 masak moritz_: actually, ihrd++ has rewritten it significantly since then, I think :)
15:59 masak (but yes, the bug might still be mine)
16:00 viklund maybe not a bug, should it be possible to do <TMPL_COND NAME='smth'>, that is use single quotes
16:00 masak instead of double quotes?
16:00 moritz_ Perl5's HTML::Template allows that, I think
16:01 viklund the grammar forces double-quotes
16:01 masak whether that's a bug depends on the point-of-view, then.
16:01 masak but I don't see the harm in supporting it.
16:01 viklund yep
16:01 masak however, I still think that URI's .frag method should die :)
16:02 viklund but that brings the problem of nesting, I'll update our templates instead to conform with the current grammar ;)
16:02 masak some freedom is good, some isn't.
16:02 masak viklund: wise choice.
16:03 viklund masak: there is a page_history.tmpl
16:04 viklund but I don't think it is used anywhere
16:04 masak viklund: and it wasn't copied from p5w?
16:04 masak right.
16:04 viklund it was copied from p5w
16:04 masak I think I could put together code for page history fairly quickly.
16:04 viklund of course
16:04 viklund good
16:04 masak maybe tonight.
16:04 viklund nice
16:08 masak in fact, I'll update docs/FEATURES to a two-column version right now.
16:09 masak been wanting to do that for a long time.
16:09 viklund ;)
16:11 viklund masak: what's the difference between history and recent changes?
16:11 viklund is history for the current page and recent changes globally?
16:11 masak aye.
16:12 viklund good
16:12 viklund have you put navigation explicitly in any more files besides view and edit (should be it's own mini-template)...
16:13 masak (it should)
16:13 viklund note to self: don't end a question with ellipses
16:13 masak I think I went through them and put in navigation where it made sense to do so.
16:13 viklund ahh
16:13 masak that means view, edit, and possibly something else
16:13 masak ...like page history
16:13 masak ...and page diff
16:14 masak viklund++ # it's _so_ nice to have you back!
16:15 viklund ;)
16:15 viklund Why did you put an edit link in edit.tmpl ???
16:15 masak mistake? :)
16:15 masak perhaps it should be a view link instead? :P
16:15 masak or 'cancel edit' or whatever.
16:16 viklund hmm, I wonder if Alva is sleeping still...
16:17 viklund yep, like a baby :)
16:17 masak haha
16:19 viklund masak: I'll factor out your Navigation div into it's own template, I'm too lazy.
16:19 masak viklund: you have my blessing.
16:20 viklund no, I'll factor out the entire sidebar...
16:21 masak that's ok too.
16:21 masak must go in 9.
16:21 viklund eh?
16:21 viklund ahh, mins
16:23 viklund haha, your log_in template was funny. Included links for editing ;).
16:23 masak oops :)
16:24 masak ok, FEATURES has been updated.
16:25 viklund great
16:25 viklund oops
16:26 ihrd1 joined #november-wiki
16:27 ihrd1 OH HAI
16:27 zarah ihrd1: where have you been? I've been worried.
16:27 ihrd1 ah, zarah.
16:27 viklund ihrd1: Hello!
16:27 viklund ;)
16:28 ihrd1 he viklund
16:28 ihrd1 hi
16:28 zarah privet ihrd1
16:28 masak privet ihrd1
16:28 masak I need to go in two minutes, but it's nice to have you here.
16:28 masak I can recommend backlogging, too.
16:29 masak http://irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki/2009-01-21
16:29 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/98lsmx
16:29 ihrd1 ok, I will read
16:29 ihrd1 but I hope see you timorrow
16:29 masak ihrd1: will be back in a few hours. and tomorrow.
16:30 ihrd1 deep night here
16:30 ihrd1 I need to sleep
16:30 masak nice. :)
16:30 masak tomorrow, then.
16:30 * masak waves
16:30 ihrd1 bb
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18:47 Topic for #november-wikiis now 2009 -- the year of November. <http://november-wiki.org> <http://github.com/viklund/november> <http://irclog.perlgeek.de/november-wiki> <http://nopaste.snit.ch>

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