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| 08:28 |
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viklund |
@tell masak should the form decoding really take place in HTTP::Daeom::ClientConn? |
| 08:28 |
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zarah |
Consider it noted. |
| 12:01 |
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viklund_ |
bah, I don't understand this |
| 12:01 |
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viklund_ |
&lunch |
| 12:03 |
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| 12:03 |
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viklund_ |
masak: I'm investigating that unicode thingy |
| 12:03 |
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masak |
ok, nice. |
| 12:03 |
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zarah |
masak: You have new messages. Write '/msg zarah @messages' to read them. |
| 12:03 |
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masak |
@messages |
| 12:03 |
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zarah |
masak: 3 h 35 m 44 s ago, viklund said should the form decoding really take place in HTTP::Daeom::ClientConn? |
| 12:04 |
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masak |
um. no, probably not. |
| 12:04 |
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masak |
are we using that? I thought we were still on Apache. |
| 12:04 |
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viklund_ |
masak: that's unimportant right now anyway, so is my latest comment on the issue |
| 12:04 |
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masak |
ok. :) |
| 12:04 |
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* masak |
reads the backlog, so he can ignore it |
| 12:05 |
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viklund_ |
I've written a small script that's running localy on my apache that echoes the result back to the webpage |
| 12:05 |
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viklund_ |
(in perl6) |
| 12:06 |
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viklund_ |
when I run that, the unicode smiley (☺) gets encoded like this: "%26%239786%3B" |
| 12:06 |
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masak |
that doesn't look right. |
| 12:06 |
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viklund_ |
which translates to "☺" |
| 12:06 |
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viklund_ |
which is very good, because that works!! |
| 12:07 |
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masak |
oh, it does? great! |
| 12:07 |
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viklund_ |
but, when I do the same thing in november (I'm saving everything from parse_params in CGI.pm) the smiley gets encoded as: %E2%98%BA |
| 12:07 |
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masak |
what do you mean , 'translates'? |
| 12:07 |
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viklund_ |
unescape |
| 12:08 |
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viklund_ |
%26 => & (you know chr(26)) |
| 12:08 |
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masak |
rakudo: say chr( :16<26> ) |
| 12:08 |
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p6eval |
rakudo fb2fd4: OUTPUT«&» |
| 12:08 |
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masak |
oh, it's an entity? |
| 12:08 |
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viklund_ |
yep |
| 12:08 |
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masak |
rakudo: say chr( :16<3b> ) |
| 12:08 |
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viklund_ |
but CGI.pm gets something else for some reason |
| 12:08 |
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p6eval |
rakudo fb2fd4: OUTPUT«;» |
| 12:09 |
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masak |
rakudo: say :16<239786> |
| 12:09 |
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p6eval |
rakudo fb2fd4: OUTPUT«2332550» |
| 12:09 |
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viklund_ |
rakudo: say chr( :16($_)) for <E2 98 BA> |
| 12:09 |
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p6eval |
rakudo fb2fd4: OUTPUT«âº» |
| 12:09 |
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masak |
I'm confused. |
| 12:09 |
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masak |
I don't think that's a real entity. |
| 12:09 |
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viklund_ |
about what? |
| 12:09 |
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viklund_ |
you don't think "☺" is a real entety? |
| 12:09 |
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masak |
you're supposed to _name_ the entity, not encode it between the '&' and the ';' |
| 12:10 |
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masak |
viklund_: yes, I do. |
| 12:10 |
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masak |
oh, now I see how it works. |
| 12:10 |
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masak |
nevermind. |
| 12:10 |
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viklund_ |
but as I said, CGI.pm sees " %E2%98%BA" |
| 12:11 |
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viklund_ |
(without the space) |
| 12:11 |
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viklund_ |
which I believe is the byte sequence of the smiley |
| 12:12 |
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viklund_ |
very strange... |
| 12:12 |
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masak |
yes. |
| 12:12 |
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masak |
where does it turn from an entity into bytes? |
| 12:13 |
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masak |
that, ISTR, was the question I got stuck at last time we investigated this. |
| 12:13 |
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masak |
our best guess was that Apache was trying to do us a favour. |
| 12:13 |
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viklund_ |
but since I have a script running on apache that actually does the right thing |
| 12:13 |
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masak |
right. |
| 12:13 |
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viklund_ |
(the same apache instance) |
| 12:14 |
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masak |
so what can it be, then? |
| 12:14 |
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viklund_ |
it is probably something we can fix somehow |
| 12:14 |
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viklund_ |
whatever |
| 12:14 |
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viklund_ |
I'm going to look into this more tonight, now I need to go and have lunch |
| 12:14 |
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viklund_ |
I'm going to gist the script where it worked |
| 12:15 |
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masak |
goodie. |
| 12:15 |
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viklund_ |
http://gist.github.com/124830 |
| 12:16 |
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viklund_ |
Next step is to transfer the exact html from the edit-page to that script |
| 12:16 |
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viklund_ |
lunch & |
| 12:30 |
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masak |
viklund_: you know what we should do? ask on PerlMonks! |
| 12:58 |
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| 16:05 |
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viklund |
masak: maybe ask on perlmonks later, we need to do some more tests first ;) |
| 16:06 |
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masak |
agreed. |
| 16:06 |
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viklund |
do heredocs work in p6? |
| 16:06 |
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masak |
in p6 yes, in Rakudo no. :/ |
| 16:07 |
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viklund |
attans |
| 16:07 |
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masak |
indeed. |
| 16:07 |
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viklund |
I'll do a multiline string instead |
| 16:09 |
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viklund |
this bug bugs me ;( |
| 16:10 |
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masak |
being passionate about bugs is often very useful. |
| 16:11 |
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viklund |
yes |
| 16:32 |
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viklund |
this is getting... ehm, stranger |
| 16:33 |
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viklund |
the test-scripts that works have http-headers that specify encoding iso-8859-1, but the page that doesn't work has encoding utf8 |
| 16:33 |
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viklund |
both extra-specify utf8 in the html head (via a meta tag) |
| 16:34 |
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viklund |
Alva wokeup |
| 16:42 |
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viklund |
Ha! That's the bug |
| 16:42 |
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viklund |
if we start sending ascii instead of utf8 posting utf8 will start working! |
| 16:43 |
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viklund |
or we try to find out how to parse it |
| 16:43 |
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viklund |
(first option is easier) |
| 16:43 |
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viklund |
masak? |
| 16:43 |
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masak |
sorry, pn the phone. |
| 16:44 |
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masak |
s/pn/on/ |
| 16:44 |
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viklund |
np |
| 16:44 |
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masak |
:) |
| 16:44 |
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viklund |
or maybe sending latin-1? |
| 16:45 |
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viklund |
I think we can have utf8 characters in the document even, because of the <meta>-directive in the <head> |
| 16:45 |
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viklund |
it feels kind of backwards... |
| 16:48 |
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viklund |
heh, now I got "&#9786;" |
| 16:48 |
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viklund |
november is decoding twice here, I think the second time is when parsing mediawikimarkup |
| 16:49 |
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viklund |
yes |
| 16:49 |
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viklund |
it is |
| 16:50 |
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viklund |
I can patch it so numbered HTML-entities work |
| 16:50 |
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viklund |
(somehow) |
| 17:01 |
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* masak |
is back now |
| 17:02 |
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masak |
wow, that sounds great. |
| 17:02 |
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masak |
I like how you now seem to have an understanding of this issue. I still don't. :) |
| 17:03 |
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viklund |
I can explain later |
| 17:04 |
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viklund |
masak: how do I match # in p6? |
| 17:04 |
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viklund |
(preferrably in a //) |
| 17:04 |
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masak |
/ '#' / |
| 17:04 |
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viklund |
ah |
| 17:04 |
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viklund |
ty |
| 17:05 |
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viklund |
right, I tend to forget the new regex syntax... |
| 17:05 |
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masak |
I can understand that, especially if you're doing p5 regexes all day. |
| 17:06 |
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viklund |
today I've been switching a bit back and forth as well |
| 17:06 |
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masak |
I think it'll feel strange to be teaching p5 this summer. :) |
| 17:06 |
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viklund |
;) |
| 17:07 |
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viklund |
Adam (my brother) will attend that course |
| 17:08 |
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masak |
nice. |
| 17:11 |
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viklund |
Yahoo! |
| 17:11 |
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viklund |
I got smileyface: ☺ |
| 17:11 |
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masak |
\o/ |
| 17:11 |
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masak |
er, i mean \☺/ |
| 17:13 |
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viklund |
(: |
| 17:13 |
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viklund |
but this will be really hard to do right in Web.pm |
| 17:13 |
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viklund |
my solution is kindof hackish... |
| 17:14 |
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masak |
viklund: if you had a use.perl.org blog, I'd ask you to blog about this there... |
| 17:16 |
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viklund |
;) |
| 17:16 |
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viklund |
Time to update feather and tell mr. lichtkind about it |
| 17:17 |
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masak |
definitely. |
| 17:17 |
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masak |
viklund++ |
| 17:17 |
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viklund |
he crashes November a lot, that's good |
| 17:19 |
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masak |
yes, very. |
| 17:19 |
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masak |
I should blog about that, actually. |
| 17:19 |
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masak |
and about this latest fix of yours. |
| 17:21 |
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viklund |
http://november-wiki.org/view/Ugly |
| 17:21 |
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zarah |
viklund's link is also http://tinyurl.com/mbkwhm |
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| 18:54 |
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viklund |
lichtkind: now you can post unicode |
| 18:55 |
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viklund |
to november |
| 18:55 |
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lichtkind |
viklund++ great |
| 18:56 |
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lichtkind |
viklund you seen in #perl6 mberens also wants to edit in november |
| 22:17 |
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viklund |
lichtkind: now you can also have spaces in URLs (like 'Perl 6') |
| 22:17 |
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lichtkind |
great thanks |
| 22:17 |
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viklund |
it gets translated to 'Perl_6' |
| 22:17 |
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lichtkind |
thats how most do it :) |
| 22:18 |
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viklund |
yes, only way that's sane really |
| 22:19 |
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viklund |
lichtkind: I haven't updated the server yet though... |
| 22:20 |
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lichtkind |
no pressure i just finished some things in the tablets |
| 22:23 |
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viklund |
lichtkind: I fixed the cancel bug as well |
| 22:23 |
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viklund |
updating server now, then sleep |
| 22:24 |
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lichtkind |
great viklund++ |
| 22:25 |
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viklund |
now there's only your feature request of TOC left in the issue tracker :) |
| 22:25 |
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lichtkind |
i have another feature request :) |
| 22:25 |
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lichtkind |
are maybe its already in there |
| 22:26 |
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lichtkind |
is there a tag to forma sourcecode |
| 22:26 |
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viklund |
not in the tracker |
| 22:26 |
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viklund |
no |
| 22:26 |
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lichtkind |
i mean in november |
| 22:27 |
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lichtkind |
like <verbatim> in twiki |
| 22:27 |
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viklund |
there's no more issues in the tracker, that's what I meant |
| 22:27 |
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viklund |
yes I know |
| 22:27 |
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lichtkind |
i understood |
| 22:27 |
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viklund |
I think that is probably best handled via plugins |
| 22:27 |
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* viklund |
really needs to implement that plugin system |
| 22:28 |
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viklund |
both TOC and that source code thingy would be quite easy then |
| 22:28 |
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viklund |
and if we do that we can move Tags.pm into a plugin |
| 22:28 |
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viklund |
anyway, the server is updated |
| 22:28 |
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lichtkind |
yes |
| 22:29 |
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lichtkind |
if it does the source thing rights its already more usefull that the socialtext |
| 22:30 |
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viklund |
;) |
| 22:33 |
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viklund |
@tell masak I fixed all the bugs, now there's only features left ;) |
| 22:33 |
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zarah |
Consider it noted. |
| 22:33 |
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viklund |
zarah: thank you |
| 22:33 |
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zarah |
you're welcome, viklund :) |
