Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #november-wiki, 2009-06-10

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10:35 lichtkind masak: what for is the back to button?
10:35 masak lichtkind: sorry, what for is the what?
10:36 lichtkind the "backt to " button up in november
10:36 masak lichtkind: I don't know, I didn't add it. if you find no good use for it, I think we could easily remove it.
10:37 lichtkind i pushed it and nothing happened :)
10:38 masak :)
10:38 masak sounds like an argument for 'no good use for it'.
10:38 lichtkind masak: now i see its workings but isnt that thought out
10:38 masak say the word, and I'll remove it.
10:40 lichtkind now frist i try to grok it
10:41 lichtkind masak: yesterday we where very buisy all4 appendices of the perl 6 tables are no ready
10:41 masak yes, I saw. good work.
10:41 lichtkind masak: watch the artefakts before every -- in http://november-wiki.org/view/Perl_6
10:41 zarah lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/lodzuo
10:42 masak viklund_: ping
10:42 lichtkind i deleted em but they there every time
10:42 masak yes. viklund_ fixed our encoding problems yesterday, but this seems to be an unfortunate side effect of some sort.
10:48 lichtkind masak: yes he said me but first fix is mostly not right :)
10:48 masak lichtkind: sorry, what?
10:48 lichtkind not so important
10:50 lichtkind masak the thing with the tags doent seem to work
10:51 lichtkind masak: he seemes to take perl 6 as 3 tags
10:51 masak that sounds bad.
10:52 lichtkind masak: that works http://november-wiki.org/all?tag=perl%206
10:52 lichtkind but...
10:52 zarah lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/krksel
10:52 lichtkind masak: the link november creates linkes to that  http://november-wiki.org/all?tag=perl+%20+6
10:52 zarah lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/l4ls3l
10:53 masak ah.
10:53 lichtkind masak: so problem lies in link creation
10:53 masak yes, feel free to file a bug ticket about this.
10:54 lichtkind how i write links in the article?
10:55 lichtkind there should be page in wiki explaining syntax
10:55 lichtkind i can make this if you show where in the docs it is
10:56 lichtkind github seems down
10:59 masak lichtkind: yes, a page explaining syntax would be a great addition.
10:59 masak lichtkind: here's a good reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing_guide
10:59 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/mnq5h5
11:00 masak as to what actually works in November, I think the tests in t/markup/mediawiki are the best reference.
11:00 lichtkind so you use mediawiki syntax?
11:00 lichtkind thats enough since im wikipedia veteran
11:02 masak yes, we're aiming for full MediaWiki support.
11:02 masak syntax-wise, that is.
11:24 viklund_ masak: pong
11:24 masak viklund_: I take it you're aware of the encoding problems we still seem to be having on november-wiki.org?
11:25 viklund_ lichtkind: the tags thingy is awaiting the pluginsystem
11:25 viklund_ masak: I saw it, checking the source ;)
11:27 viklund_ *sigh*, I broked it...
11:27 masak :/
11:34 viklund_ I don't know the error, will look for it later
11:34 viklund_ anyway, I restored the strange page
11:36 viklund_ *sigh* nothing is working, we desperately need the ability to say, "rakudo, this is utf8"
11:36 viklund_ masak: can you find out if that's possible in PIR, if it is, we might be able to do it ourselves somehow
11:42 masak viklund_: I think it's possible in PIR.
11:44 lichtkind i cant file the problem because git is down
11:48 lichtkind recent changes is broken
11:50 lichtkind preview would be nice :)
11:52 lichtkind and november has problems with spaces in links had to wirte [[Perl_6]] instead  [[Perl 6]]
11:52 lichtkind should i go on :) ?
12:01 masak yes, please.
12:02 masak we'll turn it into bug reports as github comes back online.
12:02 lichtkind githup is on again
12:03 lichtkind i filed 2 issues
12:07 masak lichtkind++
12:13 lichtkind ba the second github died again :)
12:14 lichtkind but its there :)
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13:12 lichtkind viklund_: http://november-wiki.org/all contains nonexisting pages
13:13 lichtkind be able to delete pages would also be helpful :)
13:13 lichtkind Snubbe3 is gone
13:13 lichtkind UGLY i would like to delete
13:21 lichtkind and commented on http://github.com/viklund/‚Äčnovember/issues/#issue/10
13:21 zarah lichtkind's link is also http://tinyurl.com/ls5hyq
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20:26 lichtkind viklund: ping
21:21 viklund lichtkind: pong
21:21 viklund that took a while ;)
21:22 lichtkind viklund: yeah you have great latency recently :)
21:22 viklund currently I'm making flyers for a dance-show
21:23 lichtkind viklund iv addence some comments in the tracker
21:23 lichtkind biggest 2 issues for me now are the not working history
21:23 viklund I thought that you had done some stuff, haven't reallyt checked yet
21:23 viklund well, the history is not implemented
21:23 lichtkind and the links dont allowed to contain spaces
21:23 viklund (yet)
21:23 viklund yes, I saw that
21:23 lichtkind ok it looked like broken
21:24 lichtkind wikipedia does that so expected it
21:24 viklund oh, well, not implemented is broken...
21:24 viklund I'm going to look into that utf problem later on as well, I think I know how to do it
21:25 viklund now I only need to learn how to program in PIR ;)
21:26 viklund that links aren't allowed to contain spaces _might_ be easy to fix, I haven't checked that yet...
21:26 viklund masak wrote the parser so I'm not that familiar with it
21:30 viklund lichtkind: but while spaces aren
21:30 viklund aren't allowed you can use underscore (_)
21:30 viklund that will work
21:32 lichtkind viklund i know but since you said you will implement wikipedia standart i thought it can this
21:33 viklund I don't know if we will support everything mediawiki supports...
21:34 viklund but, as I said, the fix might be easy
21:34 viklund but the bug is not something that can't be worked around, personally I think the unicode problem is a lot bigger
21:35 viklund that's really annoying
21:38 lichtkind yes
21:38 lichtkind i forgot what for me is also bug is that tags dont work
21:38 lichtkind ie the tag links are wrong
21:39 lichtkind but thats also easy fix
21:39 lichtkind i think
21:39 viklund lichtkind: the tags system is awaiting a major overhaul, I don't know if I can promise that they will work exactly the same in the future
21:40 lichtkind its allrigth i wanted just raise the topic
21:40 viklund yes, I saw you had entered an issue for that
21:40 lichtkind and if you could maybe delete 2 test pages with stupid names
21:40 viklund the tags were implemented by ihrd, but we haven't hear of him since
21:40 viklund lichtkind: I did
21:40 lichtkind thanks
21:40 viklund but maybe there's more ;)
21:41 viklund currently I have to log in to the webserver and run a few scripts to get rid of stuff.
21:43 lichtkind no now its good
21:43 lichtkind slowly we get to results :)
22:15 lichtkind i mean you :)
23:36 lichtkind viklund i create a november page named november but i get only errors when i waht to look at it
23:36 lichtkind even its in the all docs list
23:36 lichtkind i mean recent changes
23:37 lichtkind Internal Server Error
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